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Origami Dali posted:Fwiw, Kanopy can be detrimental for school/library budgets since it not only charges a subscription fee for libraries to use, but also charges them separate licensing fees for each individual title, and even worse, a charge for each individual "view" of a movie, with no maximum cap on the view charges. It can become a money sink for a library pretty fast. does hoopla work the same way?
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Iron Crowned posted:Like for movie night? The shelter was overnight and would open at 4PM. Movies would be on from opening to some time after everyone was asleep. Two tvs in two giant rooms full of like 30 dudes in each.
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Class3KillStorm posted:The Descent is the best one there by a country mile, and I can't think of anything that Hostel does to or for the genre that couldn't also be attributed to the Saw series, beyond maybe a strain of "ugly Americanism" that everything was just rife with in the Bush II years. Hostel came out less than two years after Saw, and it made a lot of noise and got a lot of attention in a way that Saw didn't. Saw was seen much more as a mystery with twists and turns for the audience to try to figure out, whereas when Hostel came into the picture that's when you really saw discussion of the idea of torture porn because there are almost no surprises in Hostel. The dumb Americans get abducted, tortured, and murdered, the end. Personally I don't think the torture porn label would've come about the way it did if not for Hostel.
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bitterandtwisted posted:Which of these is the most "essential" viewing for the blind spot challenge: The Descent is the best one and that's plenty enough reason to choose it. Even though I find Eli Roth to be detestable generally, I do think I like Hostel a lot more than most of this thread. I only saw it for the first time not that long ago and had the reaction "oh, now I understand why this guy (Roth) became famous and was able to make more films, this is really well done". It's a good malignant fairy tale, and the gradual transition from college frat bro sex comedy into the nightmare as the main character loses track of his friends and goes to look for them is one of the best I've seen of that kind of story.
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Oct 16, 2020 18:44
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Are there any other good movies in the kinda claustrophobic spelunking horror genre of the Descent?
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Oct 16, 2020 18:49
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As Above, So Below.
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Halloween Jack posted:As Above, So Below. I don't know, I liked the idea of that one, but I found it's execution to be disappointing.
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Iron Crowned posted:I like how there are somehow multiple sequels. All made by Meir Zarchi to some extent. Also those are the only movies he makes. 
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Origami Dali posted:Fwiw, Kanopy can be detrimental for school/library budgets since it not only charges a subscription fee for libraries to use, but also charges them separate licensing fees for each individual title, and even worse, a charge for each individual "view" of a movie, with no maximum cap on the view charges. It can become a money sink for a library pretty fast. Generally speaking I think this is true for every content provider (Overdrive, RBDigital, etc). Digital rights suck rear end.
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Iron Crowned posted:I don't know, I liked the idea of that one, but I found it's execution to be disappointing. Now, speaking of movies in the same vein, Crawl or Die is one where the thread consensus is positive but I just found the execution lacking.
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Thanks for your thoughts, everyone. Consensus seems to lean toward Hostel but I'll probably also watch The Descent at some point this month just because I've heard it's good. 
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Oct 16, 2020 19:22
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The Descent is an all time favorite of mine, so I fully support this
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The Descent is in a weird middle ground where it appears on basically any "Best Horror of the 2000s" list you can find, but it's not really that well known outside of horror circles and I wouldn't expect most random people on the street to have even heard of it. Whereas Hostel is still a very high profile movie today, probably because Eli Roth is still a big name.
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Basebf555 posted:The Descent is in a weird middle ground where it appears on basically any "Best Horror of the 2000s" list you can find, but it's not really that well known outside of horror circles and I wouldn't expect most random people on the street to have even heard of it. Whereas Hostel is still a very high profile movie today, probably because Eli Roth is still a big name. I feel like The Descent was pretty popular when it came out, I remember a lot of people (regular people, not horror weirdos) talking about it. It's a good date movie too.
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Drunkboxer posted:I feel like The Descent was pretty popular when it came out, I remember a lot of people (regular people, not horror weirdos) talking about it. It's a good date movie too. It was definitely popular, but it was released in the UK more than a year before it's U.S. release, and it's not like it was a huge hit here. It made about a third of what Hostel did. Hostel and Saw were legitimate hits that each brought in close to 100 million, The Descent was not even close to that level. And like I said, I think the fact that Eli Roth is still a big horror name today has a lot to do with Hostel's staying power, whereas Neil Marshall unfortunately has mostly faded into obscurity. That recent Hellboy film may have been the last gasp of his career.
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Oct 16, 2020 20:06
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poo poo, is The Reckoning ever going to be released to streaming? It's right up my alley and even fits my watchlist theme for this Halloween.
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Basebf555 posted:It was definitely popular, but it was released in the UK more than a year before it's U.S. release, and it's not like it was a huge hit here. It made about a third of what Hostel did. Hostel and Saw were legitimate hits that each brought in close to 100 million, The Descent was not even close to that level. Marshall directed all the big battle episodes of Game of Thrones. You may be right that he's never going to be a big feature director, but people still trust him with their money.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:10
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It’s kinda silly to prioritize popular films over actually-good ones when doing a must-see list. Like, nobody’s dressing up as the dude from Peeping Tom for Halloween, but that’s an all-time great.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:23
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The Descent is one of those movies where you really benefit from participating in this thread. A really good film that wasn't a huge smash so it could easily have gone under your radar the year it was released. But the huge majority of goons here giving it a strong thumbs up means an 80 percent chance I'll really like it. I've watched a number of films that are now among my favorites because of this.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:24
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The Descent, if the premise is something that would freak you out, is fantastic. I hate tight spaces so it was difficult for me to watch. Also I hope everyone here hasn't seen it with the lovely US ending that ruins things...
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Oct 16, 2020 21:34
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I showed The Descent to my old roommates (a group of 3 college girls) who'd never seen or heard of it, so they went into it thinking it was just some Girl Power adventure thriller type thing. When poo poo hit the fan, they lost their minds. It was great and I'm honestly jealous of their experience with it.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:40
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Olympic Mathlete posted:The Descent, if the premise is something that would freak you out, is fantastic. I hate tight spaces so it was difficult for me to watch. I’ve only ever seen it with the poo poo ending  .
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Oct 16, 2020 21:41
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Both endings are kind of mediocre for how good the rest of the movie is, but both are brilliant compared to the sequel that no one should ever, ever watch.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:45
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Any of those new Blumhouse movies on Prime worth watching? Who am I kidding I'll watch them regardless
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weekly font posted:Both endings are kind of mediocre for how good the rest of the movie is, but both are brilliant compared to the sequel that no one should ever, ever watch. I still can't believe they didn't make the sequel a wide open space mountain climbing movie called The Ascent.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:53
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Neo Rasa posted:I still can't believe they didn't make the sequel a wide open space mountain climbing movie called The Ascent. The world was robbed of an excellent birdman horror film.
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veni veni veni posted:Any of those new Blumhouse movies on Prime worth watching? The Lie is about tension, not scares. It’s well-acted, competently shot and edited. 3/5. I’m halfway through Black Box and I’m bored as poo poo.
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Trying to decide on my "essential" watch. Which should it be, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), or Sisters (1972)?
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I wonder how much The Descent's relative obscurity has to do with the uniqueness of the all woman cast. Or did it just fall through the cracks as something not in whatever the fad of the moment was?Zwabu posted:The Descent is the best one and that's plenty enough reason to choose it. My memory is that I really liked Hostel in the first half when it was about that fear and panic of being in an unfamiliar place and someone going missing and having no idea what to do. I think Roth has genuine film making skills and that shows out there. But then when it shifts to the torture and gives way to Roth's general sensibilities it kind of loses steam for me. I don't think I disliked it but its been years. I keep half assed setting out to rewatch it but then deciding I don't actually want to.
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Chas McGill posted:Are there any other good movies in the kinda claustrophobic spelunking horror genre of the Descent? Crawl Or Die is the best claustrophobia movie ever made, while The Cave is the second-best spelunking horror movie/creature feature. Shout-outs to Blair Witch 3: The Woods for best individual claustrophobia sequence.
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Drunkboxer posted:I’ve only ever seen it with the poo poo ending I've only ever seen it with the poo poo beginning and middle.
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Spatulater bro! posted:Trying to decide on my "essential" watch. Which should it be, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), or Sisters (1972)? My last two Halloween watches were Demon Knight and Martyrs. I am still deciding what this years should be. Maybe From Beyond?
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Spatulater bro! posted:Trying to decide on my "essential" watch. Which should it be, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), or Sisters (1972)? Invasion of the Body Snatchers. My essential watch is going to be House 1977 Japanese. I've never seen it.
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Oct 16, 2020 23:56
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I watched Descent 2 just before the challenge started. I do not recommend that.
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Oct 17, 2020 00:00
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I watched Descent 2 in April expecting a bad knockoff of a movie I've long loved. I wish that had been it.
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Jedit posted:I've only ever seen it with the poo poo beginning and middle. Did you watch it in HD or standard def? Because standard def loving ruins The Descent in a way that it doesn't for nearly any other movie I can think of. You need high res and decent black levels to be able to see half the movie.
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Oct 17, 2020 00:22
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Last week I showed my friend Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978). Tonight is: The Thing from Another Word (1951) and The Thing (1982)
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Oct 17, 2020 00:28
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You are a good friend.
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:Did you watch it in HD or standard def? Because standard def loving ruins The Descent in a way that it doesn't for nearly any other movie I can think of. You need high res and decent black levels to be able to see half the movie. It wasn't the direction I had a problem with. It was the characters.
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Disposable Scud posted:The shelter was overnight and would open at 4PM. Movies would be on from opening to some time after everyone was asleep. Two tvs in two giant rooms full of like 30 dudes in each. I feel so bad for people who rely on those shelters during this pandemic.
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