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pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



I'm sure all of you know exactly which review this is from too.

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1317150207663099908?s=19

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Way too positive to be his Freddy Got Fingered review.

Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

Just finished Friday The 13th from the boxset. Shout did a great job with the 4K scan

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

I thought The Tunnel (2011) was a pretty good claustrophobia movie, and I'm sure I got the rec from this thread

dorium
Nov 5, 2009

If it gets in your eyes
Just look into mine
Just look into dreams
and you'll be alright
I'll be alright




Need something to watch next before I finish up the day.


So far I’ve watched: Hausu (rewatch), Basket Case and Tremors (rewatch).

Need something to round out the day. Was thinking Cannibal Apocalypse, but that seems more like an afternoon movie.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Deadbeat at Dawn

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Origami Dali posted:

Deadbeat at Dawn

dorium
Nov 5, 2009

If it gets in your eyes
Just look into mine
Just look into dreams
and you'll be alright
I'll be alright




Cool it’s on shudder



See you on the other side

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Hell yeah that's one of my favorite movies, it's like you can feel the sweaty dirty 70s NYC streets through the film.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:

Hell yeah that's one of my favorite movies, it's like you can feel the sweaty dirty 70s NYC streets through the film.

its set in dayton ohio but yeah its very grimy

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

STAC Goat posted:

I wonder how much The Descent's relative obscurity has to do with the uniqueness of the all woman cast. Or did it just fall through the cracks as something not in whatever the fad of the moment was?


An all woman cast isn't as unique in Horror, which tends to have a lot of women in the cast. Not that other horror films only having women in the cast is common, but simply that a lot have women heavy casts, compared to action films or the like

But honestly its not a very fun movie which is probably what hurts it more than anything

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
Yeah I feel like an all woman or mostly woman cast is pretty common in horror. Woman protagonist definitely seems to be pretty common.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Women obviously do get protagonist and final girl roles a ton in horror but I think a film that has an entirely female cast where they're not sexualized in any way and are basically action movie bad asses is pretty rare. Like you get one or two of the elements a lot but I can't think of too many that do it as much as Descent. And we've seen plenty of examples or studies of people getting upset when there's no white male insert for them to relate to. So it makes me wonder if that had any kind of affect.

Like I think Dog Soldiers got a little more hype around the time than Descent, although both have kind of fallen into cult classic territory or forgotten gems or whatever.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
See, you're adding a lot of qualifiers there that I wouldn't and didn't.

Usually in horror, not always there are the poo poo ones, women make up at least half the cast or more. Black Christmas is an example of a movie that is primarily dominated by women, and that's a staple of the genre. Suspiria as well.

So an all woman cast really isn't that much of a stretch in the genre. It is unique, but not unheard of. Descent just isn't that much fun. I don't think them being more sexualized is going to titillate the audience when they're covered in bat poo poo and blood. I also don't think having a few dudes along for the ride would have changed much- maybe I'm wrong, but the movie wasn't marketed on the strength of that. It was marketed as a cave exploration film with bat mutants.

It's simply not a crowd pleaser and the ending situation didn't help it any stateside.


The other reason I don't think the cast had much to do with it?

Descent 2 happened and people didn't care even harder.

WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008



Deadbeat at Dawn is in the pantheon of stolen shots-no permits-trespassing on various properties-stupidly dangerous amateur stunts-keep the camera rolling because the cops will be here by take two-type films. It rules.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

WeaponX posted:

Deadbeat at Dawn is in the pantheon of stolen shots-no permits-trespassing on various properties-stupidly dangerous amateur stunts-keep the camera rolling because the cops will be here by take two-type films. It rules.

It feels like a real labour of love (and crime)

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Burkion posted:

See, you're adding a lot of qualifiers there that I wouldn't and didn't.

Usually in horror, not always there are the poo poo ones, women make up at least half the cast or more. Black Christmas is an example of a movie that is primarily dominated by women, and that's a staple of the genre. Suspiria as well.

So an all woman cast really isn't that much of a stretch in the genre. It is unique, but not unheard of. Descent just isn't that much fun. I don't think them being more sexualized is going to titillate the audience when they're covered in bat poo poo and blood. I also don't think having a few dudes along for the ride would have changed much- maybe I'm wrong, but the movie wasn't marketed on the strength of that. It was marketed as a cave exploration film with bat mutants.

It's simply not a crowd pleaser and the ending situation didn't help it any stateside.


The other reason I don't think the cast had much to do with it?

Descent 2 happened and people didn't care even harder.

I mean tons of great horror movies have terrible sequels. It doesn't stop them from being remembered big.

I didn't intend to say there were NO movies with all women casts and Suspiria and Black Christmas are good examples. They're obviously very different types of movie and female characters and I think the type in Descent - a more action or monster/creature film - is rarer.

As for the "not fun" thing like Black Christmas isn't "fun" either unless you love watching women get slaughtered and dehumanized, but only by a man and not a monster. I think there's probably SOME out there who do enjoy a slasher with some big guy stalking women more than a movie where some tough women fight a bunch of monsters while wrestling with their interpersonal relationship sand trust of each other. I have more fun with the latter and no fun with the former. And without getting into the "why" of why one might appeal to some people and not the other it is a difference that just fits more into the "Huh, I wonder why Descent isn't more appreciated within the horror community?" question.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Descent is pretty widely considered to be one of the best horror films of the 00's, so I don't know where this idea of it being underappreciated comes from.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I think a big part of it is that horror tends to move in waves and sub genres. So like the original question compared Descent to Hostel and I Spit On Your Grave and those two films are part of bigger things in the genre/culture but Descent is just kind of... Descent. A movie with a bad sequel, a director who did another good movie and not much else, and no real knockoffs or waves.

dorium
Nov 5, 2009

If it gets in your eyes
Just look into mine
Just look into dreams
and you'll be alright
I'll be alright




Well that was a pretty cool movie.

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
I watched Joyride and Halloween 6 tonight. Joyride was really good and I'm surprised it isn't talked about much more than it is. It was a lot more fun than the premise had any right to be. Halloween 6 was a dud for me for the most part. The incest stuff was way to icky for me and felt like more of a Rob Zombie halloween thing. Also I was excited to see Paul Rudd in a Halloween movie but wow is his acting terrible in this. He should get an award for most improved actor over his career if that's how he started.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!

dorium posted:

Well that was a pretty cool movie.

:hellyeah:

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
Joyride owns bones. The DVD had three different endings, one of which was an entirely different third act. I remember getting it, Fight Club and a dvd player (ps2) for Xmas and thinking DVDs would usually have a ton of extra features.

**Ron Howard narration** They didn't.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUGfkayica4

yall

you need to check this poo poo out

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
romero's crazies rules, the goofy parts esp nail the feeling of normalcy crumbling down

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Watched Carpenter's Halloween for the first time last night and holy poo poo what a movie. It was almost a full hour before Michael did anything, but I was terrified the whole time because god drat every single creepy shot. It perfectly captured a stalker and then how the movie kept refusing to show his face until the end...

I also loved the pacing where by the time I wanted something to happen, Michael struck.

The soundtrack was amazing, and I just... what's to say? It was perfectly executed. The kills were awful and great. The tombstone reveal was awful.

The worst/best part was that my boyfriend watched it with me and he was all "I can tell this is well done and I should be scared but I'm not" so fortunately for him he didn't say much about the movie and let me be scared and cling to him. Jesus, the way Michael kept getting back up....

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



now go watch the superior Zombie version

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Kvlt! posted:

now go watch the superior Zombie version

I want to continue to enjoy horror movies please

dorium
Nov 5, 2009

If it gets in your eyes
Just look into mine
Just look into dreams
and you'll be alright
I'll be alright




StrixNebulosa posted:

I want to continue to enjoy horror movies please

Hiyooooo I like you.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

StrixNebulosa posted:

I want to continue to enjoy horror movies please

the Zombie one's better than its reputation would suggest. it might not be your bag but it won't ruin the original for you.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Origami Dali posted:

Descent is pretty widely considered to be one of the best horror films of the 00's, so I don't know where this idea of it being underappreciated comes from.

STAC described it pretty well, The Descent was somewhat well known and popular in it's time, but there are a lot of movies like that. Hostel happens to have been directed by someone who is still a very prominent name in horror today, and it helped define an entire decade of the genre so it's place in horror history is more defined, more cemented. You can't tell the story of horror in the 2000s without talking torture porn, whereas it would be very easy to gloss over The Descent and forget it completely, which people these day often do.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
On this topic, I just finished the entire Halloween series. In comparison to Nightmare and Friday, this series is the one with the lowest of the lows. The only mediocre Halloween is the first sequel from 1981, whereas everything else is either good or bad. There's no in-between. Also, while Rob Zombie's two Halloween's are more competently made than Curse or Resurrection, I would much rather revisit the latter.

Here's my ranking

Halloween (1978)
Halloween IV: The Return of Michael Myers
Halloween III: Season of the Witch
Halloween (2018)
Halloween H20
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween II (2009)
Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers
Halloween (2007)
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Halloween: Resurrection

Where will Halloween Kills rank? I am somewhat hopeful because it's maintaining the same writes and director as the 2018 version.

Wake_N_Bake
Dec 5, 2003

I love to argue by using all caps. I feel it helps keep people from noticing that I have little or nothing to add to any given conversation. I also

Ramadu posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUGfkayica4

yall

you need to check this poo poo out

A quick 90 min. It drags a bit in the middle, and any attempts at character development are laughably thin. The third act has some really fun effects and scenes- not gonna spoil it, but it’s worth the wait. Goofy but fun.

Thin characters and plot, fun gore and plot premise. Killer tension when a character is tracing network cables! I was waiting on him to bust out wire shark haha. (Not really a spoiler)

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

the Zombie one's better than its reputation would suggest. it might not be your bag but it won't ruin the original for you.

I'll believe you, but as a still relative newcomer to watching horror movies I have a to-watch list that's full of better stuff that I want to get to first.

In fact, here's the list:

- Suspiria
- Bride of Frankenstein
- Evil Dead trilogy
- 28 Days Later
- The Birds
- Friday the 13th
- Get Out
- Ghost Stories
- the rest of John Carpenter's oeuvre
- Interview with the Vampire
- The Wailing
- VVitch
- You're Next
- whatever cool horror movies I find and want to put on this


I've already seen:

- Event Horizon
- John Carpenter's Thing
- Halloween
- Paranormal Activity
- Dog Soldiers
- Dark City
- It Follows (gently caress this movie)
- Jacob's Ladder
- Alien / Terminator / Predator

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

StrixNebulosa posted:

- It Follows (gently caress this movie)

I'm genuinely curious to hear you expand on this, especially with you being a horror newbie.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Kvlt! posted:

now go watch the superior Zombie version

I'll once again recommend everyone watch the making-of documentary for Zombie's Halloween, it's on YouTube and it's 4 hours long and worth every minute. I'd go so far as to say the doc is better than the actual movie. I really wish there were more docs of Rob Zombie making movies, I'd watch all of them.

Also, I watched Home Sick last night and. What. I will say that Adam Wingard's sense of comedic timing in editing is already evident even if the movie's extremely rough and amateurish (as you'd expect). Bill Mosely and Tom Towles were great but of course they were, and the gore effects were really good. It felt very Troma, appropriately enough since Tiffany Shepis is in it. Also a few of the scenes with the rednecks felt like I was watching outtakes from Letterkenny.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



StrixNebulosa posted:


- It Follows (gently caress this movie)


No don’t. Have you learned nothing?

graventy
Jul 28, 2006

Fun Shoe

Spatulater bro! posted:

I'm genuinely curious to hear you expand on this, especially with you being a horror newbie.

Technically you DON'T want to gently caress it, or then you'll be targeted. e: gah!

Add The Old Dark House to the list! I think it's James Whale's best horror, though it's mostly gay campy comedy fun.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Spatulater bro! posted:

I'm genuinely curious to hear you expand on this, especially with you being a horror newbie.

Okay! I watched It Follows last year alone. It was late at night, I was using netflix on my laptop, and I started watching it out of curiosity and had to skip forward through it as it wasn't compelling except when the monster was doing stuff and the monster was loving terrifying. Like, I'm a weenie and easily scared but this thing followed me around for several weeks, where I was jumping at shadows and having trouble sleeping, and I still find my brain thinking about it occasionally and have to stop because gently caress.

It's basically the perfect stalker monster and everything about it scared the poo poo out of me. I didn't care about the characters in the movie as it got a little stupid but the monster.... christ.



Another addendum, I have trouble watching movies alone as I tend to pause/skip around/etc and just be a bad movie watcher, and it's only in the last few months that I've obtained a boyfriend who magically enables my movie watching skills by watching it with me. We did the entire Fast and Furious franchise and other stuff and he's a saint who is willing to watch horror movies with me, as they're the genre that fascinates me the most.

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



StrixNebulosa posted:

I want to enjoy movies please


StrixNebulosa posted:

We did the entire Fast and Furious franchise

:thunk:

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