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Carthag Tuek posted:does anybodys imdb look good right now Eric Roberts. Or maybe bad, depending on how many movies being made is too many.
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While it doesn't have much to do with the topic of the thread, one thing that's didn't get enough attention about Rowling was that back when she was trying to keep her newer mystery series under wraps, there was a whole fake bio for "Robert Galbraith" that claimed he was a combat veteran. And while writing under a pseudonym isn't automatically sketchy, it bugged me that her book about an injured veteran originally claimed to be from an actual veteran's perspective.
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It's like Rowling is going for lovely author bingo.
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Shageletic posted:I feel like i'm missing something. Is the tape that came out the one that was in Jan? Did something come out that explicitly shows that Amber lied about the abuse?
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Groovelord Neato posted:Depp was also easily hateable for pissing away an insane fortune in incredibly stupid ways. Also the whole Lone Ranger fiasco where he thought it was appropriate to play a Native American character.
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Vir posted:The only new thing is that Sia tweeted about it and openly supports Depp now. It's the same tape where Heard admitted to hitting Depp, and verbally abused him in a recording that she made on her own phone. Ah ok.
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graventy posted:Almost no one was actually 'cancelled' for #metoo, so why get so worked up about the one false accusation? I mean metoo got thrown into the trash for loving Joe Biden so yeah it sucks.
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muscles like this! posted:Also the whole Lone Ranger fiasco where he thought it was appropriate to play a Native American character. That kinda poo poo I place more blame on the people who thought it was okay to hire him to play a Native American character.
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Aside from Weinstein who did it hit the most? Probably Spacey right? Like, Louis CK got to go back to work. Spacey is in hiding and just puts out cryptic videos once a year.
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DrVenkman posted:Aside from Weinstein who did it hit the most? Probably Spacey right? Like, Louis CK got to go back to work. Spacey is in hiding and just puts out cryptic videos once a year. At least Spacey stayed away from jail, R Kelly finally got some punishment for his literal decades of gross behavior and abuse and he’s definitely not gonna be coming back. https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1317257048179048448?s=21 The Cosby stuff kinda predates the actual #MeToo movement that started with Weinstein but I imagine it definitely got the sentences to stick.
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DC Murderverse posted:At least Spacey stayed away from jail, R Kelly finally got some punishment for his literal decades of gross behavior and abuse and he’s definitely not gonna be coming back. Kevin Spacey is an evil man who should probably spend the rest of his life in jail, but R Kelly is like an order of magnitude worse.
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Oct 17, 2020 20:50
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Matt Lauer and Charlie Rose are still pretty much cancelled, right?
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Overall it was an international movement that lasted for 2-3 years that probably affected fewer than 50 abusers, but the impact of the movement has been felt and we will likely experience a weird, reactionary hyper sexism as a result of it within 2 years. Except for Stand-Up Comedy, which is probably actually going to become less toxic for a lot longer because the nature of the profession means it’s MUCH easier to just not book a cancelled comedian like Jeff Ross, Chris D’Elia, or Bryan Callen. Anyone less famous than Louis CK is hosed, but the big guys like him and Seinfeld are essentially “too big to fail”. The music scene, at least in every major city in tuned in to, has also felt the effects and lots of bands lost lovely frontmen in the last couple years, hopefully that becomes the new status quo as well, punk scenes should be safe spaces for women and queer folks.
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What'd Jeff Ross do, don't get me wrong, finding out he's a terrible person would be even less surprising than with Chris D'Elia, but I just hadn't heard anything.
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He likes them young. https://www.vulture.com/2020/08/jeff-ross-jessica-radtke-alleged-sexual-relationship-at-15.html
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He talked this 15 year old girl’s parents into letting him date their daughter and groom her for a few years and now she’s speaking out against him.
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Bust Rodd posted:He talked this 15 year old girl’s parents into letting him date their daughter and groom her for a few years and now she’s speaking out against him. I remember being a teenage boy and being casual friends with a couple different girls that dated men in their 30s. At the time I was mostly thinking "no wonder I can't get a date, there's all these dudes with their own car and money stealing the girls" being in my thirties now my main thought is "what the actual gently caress?" I felt weird dating a 21 year old when I was 28 because she still lived in a college dorm.
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Bust Rodd posted:Overall it was an international movement that lasted for 2-3 years that probably affected fewer than 50 abusers, but the impact of the movement has been felt and we will likely experience a weird, reactionary hyper sexism as a result of it within 2 years. And the whole blowup in EVO of all places where a truly ridiculous amount of sex pests (mostly Smash Bros players) getting exposed up to the actual manager of EVO that ended up getting the whole thing cancelled. (Too bad, it was looking ridiculous given the focus on online meant they had to change up the entire game lineup to games that actually had good netcode, including Mortal Kombat and that one that started as a My Little Pony fangame)
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Skwirl posted:I remember being a teenage boy and being casual friends with a couple different girls that dated men in their 30s. At the time I was mostly thinking "no wonder I can't get a date, there's all these dudes with their own car and money stealing the girls" being in my thirties now my main thought is "what the actual gently caress?" I felt weird dating a 21 year old when I was 28 because she still lived in a college dorm. That reminds me of the line that people would use to say to excuse it - "well, girls mature faster than boys," which I think has been used to justify a whole slew of terrible behavior by men.
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Cemetry Gator posted:That reminds me of the line that people would use to say to excuse it - "well, girls mature faster than boys," which I think has been used to justify a whole slew of terrible behavior by men. Girls mature faster than boys because they have to deal with how disgusting men are
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:i mean, in my anecdotal experience, 97% of HP fans are angry as hell about the situation and are pretty much done giving the franchise any money, and many have moved on to vaguely-similar things like the Percy Jackson books. I always thought that it was supposed to be a metaphor for AIDS.  I'm with you on the other stuff, though.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Girls mature faster than boys because they have to deal with how disgusting men are kind of, it’s more like their behavior is policed differently
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AceOfFlames posted:I always thought that it was supposed to be a metaphor for AIDS. it's kind of "yes" and that's a lot of the problem e: like it's an AIDS metaphor, yeah, but it's very specifically a metaphor for being a gay dude with AIDS, and it's the literal only gay representation of any kind in the books other than Dumbledore, who only arguably counts. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:it's kind of "yes" and that's a lot of the problem Especially gross when you consider the only other named werewolf in the books is evil and specifically sets out to turn children, and in fact turned the good guy werewolf when he was a young boy  
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KitConstantine posted:Especially gross when you consider the only other named werewolf in the books is evil and specifically sets out to turn children, and in fact turned the good guy werewolf when he was a young boy Like everything else once Rowling went full terf everything she wrote that was kind of "eh, its clunky but lets assume good faith" was seen in an entirely new light, that being "no she's a bigoted white women wrapping herself in feminism" I'm not too up on how the UK is handling #metoo but she seems exactly like the kind of person to argue decorum and 'both sides' for tory men accused of misdeeds.
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Pretty sure she accused Jeremy Corbyn of being anti-Semitic when in her books the banks are run by hook nosed goblins obsessed with gold.
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Her new book about a man who dresses up like a woman to attack women is nine hundred (900) pages long.
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Rowling was completely obsessed with hating Jeremy Corbyn. A lot of people were, but she wrote a lot of weird fanfiction on twitter about how terrible and evil he is. At one point she wrote something about how various Potter characters would vote, and apparently Harry was a Corbyn supporter but this was actually supposed to be a dig at Harry about how he's immature. Just very strange stuff.
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JK Rowling probably thinks Margret Thatcher is a feminist icon.
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Skwirl posted:JK Rowling probably thinks Margret Thatcher is a feminist icon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6RF5ChKYQ
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Bust Rodd posted:When #MeToo was building momentum, you could have literally destroyed any man’s career with an anonymous letter This hasn't happened or been possible at any stage and it's weird that people say it as if it's a known fact. Bust Rodd posted:Remember what happened with Aziz Ansari and his famously bad date? He went quiet for a while then kept making stand up, movies and tv shows? WeedlordGoku69 posted:Because Depp actually did lose what was left of his career, and if none of the people who actually did horrible poo poo are getting consequences for it, someone who's actually genuinely innocent really loving shouldn't be. He's had multiple movies come out every year since the story hit. No he loving hasn't. He's just broke because he's a huge dumbass with money. WeedlordGoku69 posted:...looking at his IMDB, unless they've split Fantastic Beasts 3 into multiple parts, that's the literal only thing he has lined up, and he's had a grand total of one non-indie role (Fantastic Beasts 2) since the shitstorm happened (and very explicitly lost the Jack Sparrow role over it, which was pretty much his golden goose). do you know something we all don't? So...he's stopped being in massive blockbusters, aside from the ones he's still in. that isn't 'his career is ruined' and it's super weird to have to say it out loud.
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Depp is still in DIOR ads he's ... not starving. I'm pretty sure this story well fade in a year or two and he'll get some good roles again. He's capable of good work when he's not doing gimmicks. Rowling loving sucks and the hatred towards her is leaking out from online spaces. Twitter is seriously out for her blood, to the point where this is mandatory for Twitter usage:  And that still doesn't block everything! It's overwhelming how much she's despised on there. The Galbraith stuff is just pathological at this point. Just go live in your castle and shut up.
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Yeah, Depp definitely has not had his career totally destroyed. Last I heard, he probably was coming back for the new Pirates of the Caribbean, although who knows when or if that's actually going to happen. He's been in some more arty movies recently, one where he plays that photographer who documented Minamata disease in Japan and he was in an adaptation of Waiting For The Barbarians with Robert Pattinson and Mark Rylance. Plus he's still got Fantastic Beasts and he seems to be a Kevin Smith regular now too. Yeah, he's not doing multiple blockbusters a year anymore, but maybe that's a good thing because a lot of those sucked. He was a good, interesting actor once, so maybe he'll go back to that. Plus like someone else said, he had a pretty big drinking problem for a while, which probably made him a liability and participated a lot in his decline. Honestly, when it comes to people who have had their careers totally destroyed by #MeToo, only Spacey, Weinstein, and R. Kelly come to mind. Cosby too, but those allegations had been out there for years. It seems like most of the other guys just laid low for a while and then started back up again without too much trouble.
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Depp is also nearing 60 so it's not unreasonable that he's no longer a blockbuster mega star. He's honestly had a pretty good run. He's still a big draw for a lot of people, I'd put him near, but below, Tom Cruise or Keanu Reeves as the sort of actor referred to like "i'm going to see the new [actor name] movie".
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I think liberal wine moms going knives out on Kirsten Gillibrand was the canary in the coal mine for the death of the #metoo movement. Considering this, it's no surprise that a majority of Dem voters didn't really care about the Tara Reade allegations.
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inferis posted:kind of, it’s more like their behavior is policed differently This really is a lot of it. Came to mind that autism may be under-diagnosed in women because girls are subject to much more intense social education from a very young age, as well as being neat and quiet just being considered a well-behaved girl, while boys are basically thrown into the playground with 'Eh, they'll figure it out' and people are surprised when they turn weird in adulthood when they spent most of their lives being raised like a neglected pet you buy electronics for to keep them quiet.
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