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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1SEEMkc-qw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNzWuEYQpFA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnoNpncfh0
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https://youtu.be/UrZ6ahNTYjw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHet-9kJvtk
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Maybe they can get Weezer to cover “Everyone’s Gone to the Movies” and get some 21st century radio play.
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IIRC old seventies rock bands can be kind of assholes to deal with re: sampling and covers and such.
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surprised to see how much they have been sampled. poo poo. peg is the goddamn jam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI7NDDQLvbo
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Oct 1, 2020 04:44
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glad to see we've all aged to the point where steely Dan is our favourite band. and yes peg is absolutely the poo poo. And deacon blues
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Oct 1, 2020 05:28
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Steely Dan took Lord Tariq for every last cent on that song. They’d made the song for mixtapes without bothering to license it and it blew up sooooooo
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Oct 1, 2020 05:50
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they (well, just Fagen now) are known to be very picky about giving sample clearance and if they say yes they demand a ton of money up front and a co-writing credit giving them potentially an equal share of the publishing forever.
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Oct 1, 2020 20:19
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my favorite sample, a much more interesting part to take out of context for Black Cow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdgOxiiwwNs
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Oct 1, 2020 20:22
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Yeah right, gently caress steely Dan. No hip hop artists should be giving them a nickel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaEIC-2wybQ
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I also think hip hop artists should sample more dildos, seems like there's a huge, quality selection everywhere these days. 2020's not got a great reputation, but if we're diligent I think we can make it the year of the dildo easy peezy.
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all Steely Dan samples are good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzHLTy33qWM
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Doesn't Peter Gunz have like 20 kids? Lol
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Fagan and Becker loving suck for what they demanded of Tariq and Gunz. For such self-proclaimed industry outsiders they sure loving love that money and being bitter assholes. Also their music is tedious as gently caress in general and was terribly recorded, and the so-called genius of "we used good studio musicians!!!" is about as exciting as it sounds, and it blows when you put absolutely zero low end in your music because you're too much of a narcissist to not put all the guitar and keyboards at the front of the mix. No wonder they sampled it for Uptown because the bass drum is almost inaudible on Black Cow and even on headphones it's pure treble. If you wanted to listen to actual good jazz production from the same time period, just listen to George Benson, or if you want well produced pop rock you might as well just listen to ELO. Steely Dan is like a worse fusion of the two. This has been my very negative and ranting review of Steely Dan, two people I will never meet. Thank you and my God bless your mess.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:they (well, just Fagen now) are known to be very picky about giving sample clearance and if they say yes they demand a ton of money up front and a co-writing credit giving them potentially an equal share of the publishing forever. Ironically I think Keith Jarrett only asked for a credit when they stole the title track from Gaucho from him.
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AHH F/UGH posted:Fagan and Becker loving suck for what they demanded of Tariq and Gunz. For such self-proclaimed industry outsiders they sure loving love that money and being bitter assholes. Yeah but also Ricky don't lose that number is a very catchy little tune even if song for my father is better in every conceivable way
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Does hip hop really need that many add9 chords? e: Well this is rather on the nose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnlLNzhIroM Stex T fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 17, 2020 |
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Oct 17, 2020 18:06
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AHH F/UGH posted:terribly recorded 
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AHH F/UGH posted:Fagan and Becker loving suck for what they demanded of Tariq and Gunz. For such self-proclaimed industry outsiders they sure loving love that money and being bitter assholes. “steely Dan’s music was terribly recorded” is quite a hot take
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Puppy Galaxy posted:“it’s terrible that Steely Dan’s music was recorded”
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I think that is totally uncontroversial take - their songs sound like doggshit and I'd rather listen to something with some low end saturating the hell out of a microcassette with worse musicians. the "audiophile" world is nearly 100% psychos emperors new clothes-ing each other to ludicrous extremes so the fact that they ride so hard for steely dan fits perfectly. they are maniacs, don't listen to them. every rap song that sampled steely dan is better than the sampled song. every project pat song is better than every steely dan song.
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Oct 17, 2020 21:11
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:I think that is totally uncontroversial take - their songs sound like doggshit and I'd rather listen to something with some low end saturating the hell out of a microcassette with worse musicians. the "audiophile" world is nearly 100% psychos emperors new clothes-ing each other to ludicrous extremes so the fact that they ride so hard for steely dan fits perfectly. they are maniacs, don't listen to them. every rap song that sampled steely dan is better than the sampled song. every project pat song is better than every steely dan song. Someone can’t afford quadrophonic speakers.
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Edit ^^^^ this is the first sample I haven’t heard ITT and it’s very neat, ty for posting Deep Glove Bruno posted:I think that is totally uncontroversial take - their songs sound like doggshit and I'd rather listen to something with some low end saturating the hell out of a microcassette with worse musicians. the "audiophile" world is nearly 100% psychos emperors new clothes-ing each other to ludicrous extremes so the fact that they ride so hard for steely dan fits perfectly. they are maniacs, don't listen to them. every rap song that sampled steely dan is better than the sampled song. every project pat song is better than every steely dan song. I got very into steely Dan as a kid in the 90s and 00s and was fairly alienated in my crusade to convert my friends. in the last 5 or so years though I’ve had probably a dozen people tell me that they finally “get” steely Dan now. for the record I think it’s completely fine not to like steely dan and can understand being turned off by their music, particularly the very clean aesthetic, but in my experience it is only a matter of time until you love them, at which point I will welcome you with open arms
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Oct 17, 2020 21:48
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Steely Dan having bad recording quality and terrible mixing is far from the wildest hot take and it's widely known among production engineers, especially the drum mixing and the extremely overblown mids. Again, if you want to hear good recording production from the same time, you can just put on Give Me the Night or In Flight. Like, just listen to loving Nature Boy. That's how the gently caress you mix a jazz pop song. Or The World is a Ghetto for god's sake.
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I like Beat Happening and GBV, any argument about bad recording quality is completely meaningless
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AHH F/UGH posted:Steely Dan having bad recording quality and terrible mixing is far from the wildest hot take and it's widely known among production engineers, especially the drum mixing and the extremely overblown mids. Again, if you want to hear good recording production from the same time, you can just put on Give Me the Night or In Flight. George Benson is great but I have a hard time believing that’s a widely held belief by recording engineers, do you have any examples? Like I’m sure steve albini hates the way Gaucho sounds but every sound guy I know uses Babylon Sisters or IGY to tune a new PA
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Torquemada posted:Ironically I think Keith Jarrett only asked for a credit when they stole the title track from Gaucho from him. Yeah, he essentially did the same thing they do for samples with a writing credit. Not sure how it breaks down financially exactly but generally that means he’s getting close to an equal share of mechanicals, publishing, etc for that song.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:George Benson is great but I have a hard time believing that’s a widely held belief by recording engineers, do you have any examples? Like I’m sure steve albini hates the way Gaucho sounds but every sound guy I know uses Babylon Sisters or IGY to tune a new PA It's my job and a lot of the people I work with that are as deep into it share the same opinion that Steely Dan is basically babby's first production group. I can understand that it would seem like a controversial opinion and I only have first hand accounts, but a lot of the people on the recording and production forums, discord and subreddit that I frequent talk about having the same feeling as well. FWIW, Babylon Sisters is a lot better mixed than most of their tracks, probably because Becker didn't have much to do with it. In fact, to assuage a bit, Donald Fagen's solo stuff (Nightfly especially) is leagues better. I.G.Y. still has no low end though. edit: me spel AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Oct 17, 2020 |
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i’m just glad we can all agree that Steely Dan is extremely good
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