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Milo and POTUS posted:What did bush the elder do? I only know of the gulf war crimes and puking on japanese prime minister. Isn’t he the one who really brought the oil companies in to government? He also launched a war just because people thought he was a dweeby weak aristocrat.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I mean if you look at Jimmy Carter, who's generally perceived to have been the most "peaceful" of modern Presidents, he still got the US involved in Afghanistan, approved of a coup in Turkey, launched a (failed) incursion into Iran, and greenlit the Indonesian invasion of East Timor What do you imagine the extent of Trump's foreign policy has been, including direct military, indirect military, and diplomatic issues? And would stripping hundreds of thousands of people in the US who have been here for years or decades of TPS and forcing them out count as foreign policy?
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I mean Trump has expanded Obama's drone warfare, backed coups in Bolivia and Venezuela, ended the Iran Deal, withdrawn from the Paris Climate Accords and a bunch of other multinational treaties and institutions, and probably more stuff that I can't recall off the top of my head, but on the other hand he's eviscerated the State Department, made the rest of the world openly acknowledge that the US isn't a force for good, and is yet to start a war and kill a million people in the Middle East even though John Bolton and the other chickenhawks really really wanted him to, so that probably makes him one of the better modern presidents when it comes to foreign policy
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are people doing that. When it was revealed Bolivia was an obvious coup no one really cared
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Trump half heartedly tried to pull the us military out of the middle East and the military just refused to do it ("slow walked it"), aided by the Lib media and uspol
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Trump is continuation of Obama by other means.
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Don't forget backing Israeli annexation fully. Not every bad foreign policy comes from bombs. e: though he did also tear up arms treaties brugroffil has issued a correction as of 15:59 on Oct 17, 2020 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1317085160626675715?s=20 personally i think this is probably a better candidate for dumbest statement in that oped https://mobile.twitter.com/JTOBrown/status/1317286287523651585?p=v
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It's great that Biden loves his crackhead failson, I just wonder hows many millions of lives Biden destroyed with his law and order, tough on crime, antidrug crusader policy when those people probably could have used some love as well
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The gop would bring that up as a point if they weren't 100% on board with it as policy as well
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Milo and POTUS posted:The gop would bring that up as a point if they weren't 100% on board with it as policy as well Why would that stop them?  See Karl Rove's ratfucking style.
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vyelkin posted:withdrawn from the Paris Climate Accords this one was completely worthless tho
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:this one was completely worthless tho but not worthless in the same way that trump thought it was worthless
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Atrocious Joe posted:maybe when they edit the algorithm to weed out disinformation there's unintended consequences???? the trick is that they don't actually give a poo poo about disinformation. they're editing the algorithm to try to minmax their reputation and public image in the eyes of various politically powerful groups the conservative groups will scream about bias no matter what, while the liberal groups are naive and trusting, so the way to minimize public accusations of bias is to favor the hell out of the conservative groups
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Milo and POTUS posted:What did bush the elder do? I only know of the gulf war crimes and puking on japanese prime minister. the gulf war involved numerous war crimes (eg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death) and was followed by instituting sanctions that led to mass deprivation of iraqis
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Milo and POTUS posted:Did clinton expand the sanctions or just get flak for perpetuating them He didn't get flak.
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he showed that democrats can be Tough On Starving Children too.
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Shear Modulus posted:the gulf war involved numerous war crimes (eg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death) and was followed by instituting sanctions that led to mass deprivation of iraqis Probably also worth remembering he pardoned all his iron contra criminal friends to keep them from testifying about him Once upon a time notion that trump might do such a thing was considered his great thought crime against the republic
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yknow he does look like a smug pepe
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Some Guy TT posted:Probably also worth remembering he pardoned all his iron contra criminal friends to keep them from testifying about him HW Bush's involvement in Iran-Contra was exposed the week before the elections and probably played a large part in why he lost. The liberal media tends to downplay this a lot because it eats away at the myth of Bill Clinton being an exceptionally gifted politician and campaigner.
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incredible article btw quote:What a pair we are. Certainly, there have been setbacks. He isn’t always patient. I’m not always on my best behavior. And on those occasions, I leave a token on his desk to let him know when I have been up to no good (minor mischief like sneaking embarrassing items into a line-cutter’s grocery cart). The token I leave is an innocuous trinket, a Statue of Liberty figurine from a key chain. Anyone else who saw it wouldn’t think twice. But he knows what it means. quote:My husband was never thrilled to hear that I had spent the day in a stranger’s house without that person’s knowledge or committed other misdeeds. quote:When you’re a sociopath in a marriage, especially one with children, honesty is critical — even more, I would argue, than for people in “normal” relationships. As a sociopath, I had difficulty prioritizing telling the truth, but as a wife and a mother, I forced myself to learn.
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Major STDH vibes in that article. I don't know if she's actually a sociopath, but she's definitely a compulsive liar. Sociopaths aren't dangerous but also I used to break into people's houses and steal cars.
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why did her husband put up with this are sociopaths just really great lays edit i read the article and she doesnt even attempt to answer this question its actually a fairly impressive article in terms of how little information it conveys while using so many words Some Guy TT has issued a correction as of 14:12 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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i guess she must be rich as gently caress, how else can you describe "breaking and entering" into people's homes playfully and how it relates to your husband's mood and not be in loving jail
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Dreylad posted:i guess she must be rich as gently caress, how else can you describe "breaking and entering" into people's homes playfully and how it relates to your husband's mood and not be in loving jail plot twist: she's a cop
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is this the same (probably fake, probably self-diagnosed) sociopath who was doing a book tour and NPR interviews several years ago? e: no, that was "Confessions of a Sociopath" by M. E. Thomas
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sociopathy is the new autism
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I'm a whimsical sociopath, just like Mary Poppins
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there was someone doing an A/T thread about being a sociopath recently and it was insane, like back to back 2000-word posts about how he was the smartest person on earth and he can read everyone's mind and he's the best at literally everything and he can manipulate you into doing whatever he wants just by saying the right words in the right order and he gives his girlfriend over 9000 orgasms every day with crazy bdsm sex anyway i can't find the thread now so maybe it got nuked by the mods, i guess if that poster wanted his work to be immortalized he should have approached the new york times instead vyelkin has issued a correction as of 16:06 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Glad to see Catowife getting a chance to lay out her side of the story. lol
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Glad to see Catowife getting a chance to lay out her side of the story. 
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StashAugustine posted:plot twist: she's a cop Sociopath not psychopath
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sleeptalker posted:It makes sense people want to read a sociopath's perspective to get an understanding of them, problem is no one understands sociopaths enough to actually verify that it's an accurate perspective. Just read The Economist. They've been doing it right for a century and a half
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