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Eau de MacGowan posted:i thought fists + ares was the ultimate omae wa mo shindeiru build, but it turns out its fists + hangover Athena special and dash, area on fists, get the Merciful End duo. Suddenly every dash is doing hundreds of damage. You don’t touch special you just need it for the duo to be offered
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Orange Crush Rush posted:At least with Zeus you can still potentially roll his Legendary and some of his strongest Duos by following one or the other. And also his Legendary is probably a contender for one of the best in the game. I thought you needed at least two of three? And two are Bolt and one is Chain?
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Oct 18, 2020 15:57
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The only thing this game is missing is some sort of endless challenge mode at the end of a run so that you can play around with your finished build. It always feels like it ends as soon as it really comes together.
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Oct 18, 2020 16:00
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terrorist ambulance posted:I can't really get the rhythm of chaos shield down. The throw delays your ability to block, and I seem to end up throwing the special past stuff that I bull rush into. It ends out working fine but I don't think I'm using it to its full potential With full-strength chaos shield, if you can bull rush just barely through them and immediately spin and special, you'll put 3-6 shields directly into their back. If you happen to have, say, doom on your special with the thing that boosts doom due to other applications, doing this one time will basically kill any non-boss non-armored enemy in one application. It's fabulous. I love that chaos shield.
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Oct 18, 2020 16:01
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I think my absolute favorite build is Eris rail and going all-in on Zeus lighting (Lightning Strike, Static Discharge, Double Strike, Splitting Bolt), and if I get really lucky I can even combo it with Poseidon dash and special and Sea Storm. I've managed to get the whole package a couple times and it just feels incredible. Throw in Delta Chamber and it's just 
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Oct 18, 2020 16:04
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Hey, I finally had a good Lucifer run!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImYlAWP1j3s Epilogue finally kicked off just before this run, too. Think I've only got a couple Olympians left to bond with, then The End 
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Oct 18, 2020 16:25
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JonathonSpectre posted:With full-strength chaos shield, if you can bull rush just barely through them and immediately spin and special, you'll put 3-6 shields directly into their back. If you happen to have, say, doom on your special with the thing that boosts doom due to other applications, doing this one time will basically kill any non-boss non-armored enemy in one application. It's fabulous. Yeah I get that but part of the problem is I suck and lose the cursor some times so snap turning like that is sometimes hard
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Oct 18, 2020 16:30
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ungulateman posted:the highest dps run i ever had was aphro special on the fists with the hammer that gives the special the landing slam with some insane base damage, then i got a chaos boon that buffed special damage. i would clear entire rooms in one hit as long as i remembered not to dash-special since the dash-special doesn't trigger the landing slam
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Oct 18, 2020 16:43
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Dad has a special start-of-combat animation when you fight him with Forced Overtime. 
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Oct 18, 2020 16:43
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SKULL.GIF posted:I think my save broke. I haven't seen Nyx in 20+ runs and Persephone isn't offering the epilogue quest chain despite getting a Minor Prophecy for it. SKULL.GIF posted:I've already done that, 19 runs ago 25 runs later, I finally ran into Nyx again in Chaos and now I can actually progress the rest of the plot. I don't know what was tying it up, I was getting increasingly generic comments from Chaos (typically signalling that the script is running to a close). So if this happens to you, just stick with it I guess.
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Oct 18, 2020 16:55
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Haven't seen her in Chaos or at the House since then. I checked the administrative chamber several times, too, no go.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:The only thing this game is missing is some sort of endless challenge mode at the end of a run so that you can play around with your finished build. It always feels like it ends as soon as it really comes together. Would also be awesome to have an upgrade to bring skelly on a trip to the surface too as a sort of DPS check
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Oct 18, 2020 17:18
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Nyx seems to be one of or maybe the biggest problem in the game. She is central to just about every story line and is only around 1/2 the time. And even when she is there, she often has nothing to say. They really really need to patch her/the game so things move a bit faster.
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Oct 18, 2020 17:21
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I got the epilogue! Have used up all ambrosia that I seem to need, only have some summons to level but for now I’m just turning them in for bloods to try out more maxed out aspects And Achilles just mentioned that I unlocked poseidon aspect for the sword lol
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Oct 18, 2020 17:36
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I got the epilogue! Have used up all ambrosia that I seem to need, only have some summons to level but for now I’m just turning them in for bloods to try out more maxed out aspects Just got the epilogue too  that was very sweet. Nice artwork as always, too.
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Oct 18, 2020 17:59
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I think at this point the best thing they could do is change the characters to have dialogue options of a more traditional rpg style that you can clear one per run, but you choose which when
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Oct 18, 2020 18:00
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I've cleared pretty much everything in the game now minus the badge, and i'm closing in on 100% achievements too, but I STILL haven't unlocked the final bonding hearts for Hypnos. My understanding is it's tied to having Thanatos and Hypnos at home at the same time, but I'm so far behind in Thanatos dialogue that most of the time when he's home he's talking about me reuniting Orpheus and Eurydice or something else I did literally 40 hours ago.
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crepeface posted:I thought you needed at least two of three? And two are Bolt and one is Chain? I agree it's an extremely good boon and it goes very well with some of his duos like Scintillating Feast and Sea Storm. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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Oct 18, 2020 18:13
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Wilekat posted:I've cleared pretty much everything in the game now minus the badge, and i'm closing in on 100% achievements too, but I STILL haven't unlocked the final bonding hearts for Hypnos. My understanding is it's tied to having Thanatos and Hypnos at home at the same time, but I'm so far behind in Thanatos dialogue that most of the time when he's home he's talking about me reuniting Orpheus and Eurydice or something else I did literally 40 hours ago. Does it help to do suicide runs?
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Wilekat posted:I've cleared pretty much everything in the game now minus the badge, and i'm closing in on 100% achievements too, but I STILL haven't unlocked the final bonding hearts for Hypnos. My understanding is it's tied to having Thanatos and Hypnos at home at the same time, but I'm so far behind in Thanatos dialogue that most of the time when he's home he's talking about me reuniting Orpheus and Eurydice or something else I did literally 40 hours ago. It was on run 135 that I finally progressed Than and Hypnos so I could max out all the relationships. Substantially after all the rest.
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I maxed out dusa's hearts in the codex but still didn't get "bond forged," is that supposed to happen
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Oct 18, 2020 18:58
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crepeface posted:I thought you needed at least two of three? And two are Bolt and one is Chain? You just need one of his tier 2s to make you eligible for Split Bolt, which are High Voltage, Double Strike (Bolts) and Storm Lightning (Chain lightning) I think the only god that needs two tier 2 boons to open up their legendary is Demeter? Can’t think of anyone else right now anyways.
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Oct 18, 2020 19:06
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Artemis needs 2 of exit wounds, pressure points, and support fire.
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Harold Fjord posted:Does it help to do suicide runs? I've certainly considered this, but I have a couple of accessories left to 3 star so I'm just doing runs. I *think* Than only shows up if you get his event during a run anyway? On the plus side I just did a 10:30~ run with fists basically by accident, so it's not like I'm not having fun anyway.
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Oct 18, 2020 20:42
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Some of the fan art coming out of this game is pretty cool. https://twitter.com/7GROVEYS/status/1317492228374228994
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I maxed out dusa's hearts in the codex but still didn't get "bond forged," is that supposed to happen Dusa is a weird one and you have to give her loads of ambrosia. Like, 10+ I think.
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As I near closing out the epilogue I'm still enjoying the game but man there are a few things that I wish were a little different. Mostly UI stuff actually. I strongly dislike the interface that shows you your current Boons and upgrades. It just a mess of icons and I'd rather just have a list to be honest. When I'd be better served by a straight text list rather than your UI you've screwed up somewhere along the design process. The weapon aspects interface is sort of not great as well. Its not terrible, but its confusing enough that I've seen multiple people surprised to find out you can change your aspect after you unlock them. Its just poorly indicated in the UI. I myself spent longer than I should have hoarding blood because I didnt want to screw up my aspect choices. And lastly I really think things would be better off with an actual dialogue UI rather than they way it works now. Being able to choose what dialogue you have next with a character would be a massive improvement over the current, come back later, maybe they'll talk about the thing you want, way it is currently. Even if a bunch of the conversations continued to cost nectar or whatever I'd much rather spend X nectar to move forward on Y conversations than the weird priority system it works on now.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Dusa is a weird one and you have to give her loads of ambrosia. Like, 10+ I think. It's 10 (1/2/3/4) for her last four gifts, but at the end of it you can get them all back and there's no downside to accepting the return. You have to do a bunch of lounge stuff with tee contractor to finish her favor before you can start piling on the gifts again.
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After I filled all her hearts I made several trips where Dusa was only giving me generic conversation options until the final bit that gave me her bond triggered. I'm not sure but in the meantime I talked to several other npcs about her job situation and how that resolved so those might have been holding it up.
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All legendaries gotten at least once (holy poo poo is Demeter's good god drat), only two duos left to get and then I can finally stop going for weirdly gimped builds! I couldn't help but piss of Meg by resetting the mirror and still kicking her rear end after she said I only beat her because of the thing. I sure wasn't used to the fight taking longer than 15 seconds anymore, even had to use Skelly's tooth to get through it due to Alecto's frigging spinny sawblade. And then Asphodel kicked my rear end, but not before me diving into a spicy Chaos gate and picking a bane that lowered my max health. 
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So forced overtime 1 just turns off I-frames for dodges. I just got to Hades with forced overtime 1 and he constantly, repeatedly hit me in the middle of dodge animations, flash and all. I was hit by the green novas every single time while dodging over them and by wide spear swings that didn't visibly make contact too. I know it's not just "lol fast Hades" because I made it through everything before him with no trouble (except Theseus novas). Or I just have bad controller drift. Or brain damage.
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FO doesn't muck with your iframes so much as highlight how few you actually get. You'll notice this since your timings are now all totally off! The final boss is weird in particular and I feel there might be a minor gfx bug, as it sure looks like you're mid dash when some of his big hits connect. I've had multiple instances of getting a slow-mo shot of death defiance as he seems to hit me in the middle of an Athena dash. Obviously he didn't, but the golden shields are up as Zag does his defiance animation. But I've also just dashed through all his poo poo on FO1/2 also, so it's just player error and a possible timing thing with how animations play.
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zoux posted:Is Lucifer just not compatible with aim assist? my aim assist got turned off somehow, maybe check if yours did too
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emdash posted:my aim assist got turned off somehow, maybe check if yours did too What I mean is it's impossible to target the the special bombs, because it locks on mobs. I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to use it, I haven't put much time into it because I hate it
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zoux posted:Lucifer... because I hate it Working as intended!
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zoux posted:What I mean is it's impossible to target the the special bombs, because it locks on mobs. I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to use it, I haven't put much time into it because I hate it I completely ignored the special until I got a hammer that made the beam pierce. And even then the other hammer that made it a triple beam did most of the work.
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zoux posted:What I mean is it's impossible to target the the special bombs, because it locks on mobs. I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to use it, I haven't put much time into it because I hate it I set them off by dashing through them with a damaging dash after I've put a few down. It's worked pretty well for me.
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Yeah, it seems like many damage sources besides direct laser hits can set them off too, but in the end I mostly just used the triple beam laser with various boons to burn things down. The Bombs were more like AoE fields with pulse damage for my only Lucifer run so far.
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Serephina posted:FO doesn't muck with your iframes so much as highlight how few you actually get. You'll notice this since your timings are now all totally off! The final boss is weird in particular and I feel there might be a minor gfx bug, as it sure looks like you're mid dash when some of his big hits connect. I've had multiple instances of getting a slow-mo shot of death defiance as he seems to hit me in the middle of an Athena dash. Obviously he didn't, but the golden shields are up as Zag does his defiance animation. But I've also just dashed through all his poo poo on FO1/2 also, so it's just player error and a possible timing thing with how animations play. I'm 90% sure that your iframes turn off if you press dash attack, as I've been hit by the expanding skull waves on dad while dashing directly through them, but only when I dash attack speaking of dashes, is the input queueing really weird on the hidden fists aspect's extra dashes or something? I tried it for the first time and chained dashes felt weird and inconsistent to do using the same timing I'm normally used to. it came closer than anything else to ending my winstreak, definitely the worst-feeling aspect I've used
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I'm 90% sure that your iframes turn off if you press dash attack, as I've been hit by the expanding skull waves on dad while dashing directly through them, but only when I dash attack Are you using the turbo-dash, ie holding the dash button down? I don't think the game actually tells you it exists, but it's part of the Gilgamesh moveset.
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