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I finally got around to marathon'ing the IP Man series and halfway thru part 3 and man does it kick rear end, can't wait to get to part 4 with Adkins  but I'm really liking Donnie Yen - so quick and calm all the time - love when he gets like 20 punches in on a guy falling down from his kick...I've pretty much ignored the whole Asian action genre for the most part - I've seen the usually 90's stuff (Infernal Affairs, Hard Boiled, The Killer; and not really a fan - I mean the stories are fine, just the production value aren't there if that makes sense); Can I get some goon recommendations on some good Asian action movies (I've seen all the raid/ong bak related stuff, looking for more recent stuff - 2015+). Like just a quick look at Donnie Yen's page it looks I should see Flash Point, Special ID and The Monkey King; but any other recommendations would be cool as I've run out of american cinema thanks to covid. vvv yea that's what I expected, I just want a list of some of the recent favorites around here Hirez fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Oct 17, 2020 |
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You're going to get names of actors, not specific movies, because there's just so much you will need to/love to watch. Donnie Yen, Jackie Chan, Wu Jing, Jet Li, Tony Jaa, Andy On, Andy Lau. . . Great, now I want a series of shorts where all the great martial artists demonstrate their personal style of "percussive therapy" for chest congestion of covid patients.
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Oct 17, 2020 19:10
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Hirez posted:I finally got around to marathon'ing the IP Man series and halfway thru part 3 and man does it kick rear end, can't wait to get to part 4 with Adkins Spl 2 is probably my favorite movie in that genre, starring 2 of the best - wu jing and Tony jaa. There is a LOT to see though, and across huge differences while remaining "action". You're absolutely going to have to go by actor and style. Frankly I don't like Jet Li all that much even though he's obviously incredibly talented, he just doesn't click with me. Yet he's amazing in Hero because it's one of the most gorgeous movies ever made, let alone it being an action one. Hell, his appearance in lethal weapon 4 is one of the highlights of 90s american action.
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Hirez posted:I finally got around to marathon'ing the IP Man series and halfway thru part 3 and man does it kick rear end, can't wait to get to part 4 with Adkins I would add Kung Fu Killer to the Donnie Yen list. Tak Sakaguchi just for Versus and Re: Born if nothing else. Takeshi Miike has some great action movies over the last few years, like Blood Of The Immortal and 13 Assassins. The great Korean action flicks, like City Of Violence, The Good The Bad The Weird, The Villainess, The Man From Nowhere, The Suspect, Midnight Runners, War Of The Arrows. I assume you've seen Tony Jaa's two great movies from early 2000s, but if not you're in for a treat. Also Chocolate. I'm missing Hong Kong and China movies. E: how could I forget Wolf Warrior 2?
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True, I guess I never realized how many films there are just by going to each of those guys filmography. SPL 2 is one of the few recent ones I've actually seen because of all the high praise it was getting and I love Tony Jaa (though his filmography is pretty slim) and thought it was excellent. e: and yea hell yeah Wolf Warrior 2 ruled, seen that only due the Adkins connection Basically in general I like the "Lone Wolf with nothing to lose going balls out on everyone" type movies, or the Lone Wolf being hunted by X. Undercover Yakuza/Triad stuff is always fun too. Basically I'm just curious to what some favorites are around here Hirez fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Oct 17, 2020 |
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Just favorites? Triple Threat (too many stars to fit into all the fights, but great), Triad Wars (Sammo Hung vs Wu Jing in the climax), seconding SPL2. Mile 22 has some great fights, if you can survive Mark Walburg With ADHD. Skin Trade has Tony Jaa, Michael Jai White, Lundgren, Ron Perlman, and guest appearance by Peter Weller.
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Currently re-watching Fury Road. Due to some life circumstances I basically had to stop paying attention to pop culture for the past five years. Anything action-movie wise come out since then that is comparable?
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Currently re-watching Fury Road. Due to some life circumstances I basically had to stop paying attention to pop culture for the past five years. Anything action-movie wise come out since then that is comparable? Not really
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Currently re-watching Fury Road. Due to some life circumstances I basically had to stop paying attention to pop culture for the past five years. Anything action-movie wise come out since then that is comparable? The only other big budget american action movies of note are john wick 1-3, mission impossible 4-6 , and fast and furious 3,5-8. None hold a candle to fury road
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I'd throw Deadpool and Deadpool 2 in there. 2 is even by one of the John Wick directors. It is cool that Miller is doing that Furiosa movie. For cool factor, I'd say let's just rewatch The Killer once again. And Hard Boiled. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Fury Road is a once or twice in a lifetime movie on the level of Die Hard or Terminator 2.
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Speaking of Die Hard, With a Vengeance is as rewatchable or even more so for me than 1. Plus Sam Jackson at the height of his power. I'm just sad we never got him in a John Woo movie.
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Basebf555 posted:Fury Road is a once or twice in a lifetime movie on the level of Die Hard or Terminator 2. I frankly can't think of any other time an action director went back to his old work decades later and surpassed it
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That is a challenge. If we're counting punching sports action, Rocky Balboa is a great comeback movie. Stronger than his work on some flicks like Rocky 5 (not too tough to top). Toxic Avenger 4 is stronger than 3, that's a while later. Bit of a genre blend there. And of course, Lloyd Kaufman played a drunk in the first Rocky and helped behind the scenes.
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Was gonna nominate Martin Campbell but I guess there was only 10 years between Goldeneye and Casino Royale, and The Legend of Zorro between them is also great.
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Speaking of fury road I expect you all to join me in voting for the correct choices now that we're narrowed down to the top 64 movies of all time https://twitter.com/coopercooperco/status/1317993873923256322
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Fair enough. Thanks for the replies.
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Fair enough. Thanks for the replies. For real though watch the John Wick movies.
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Nothing is equal to Fury Road, but I would argue that The Night Comes for Us approaches John Wick.
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Darthemed posted:I can't believe someone would rate Cyborg that highly. I watched about 30 minutes of this last night before bed. Is it not worth continuing? I thought I was watching an episode of MST3k.
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Finally got round to watching Terminator: Salvation. Can't believe someone thought "boy, what this franchise really needs is to be more like Transformers." I swear they sampled some of the sound effects straight from the Bay films. at how quickly they burned the T-800's face off so they didn't have to spend any more time/money on their CGI Arnold.
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Payndz posted:Finally got round to watching Terminator: Salvation. Can't believe someone thought "boy, what this franchise really needs is to be more like Transformers." I swear they sampled some of the sound effects straight from the Bay films. I liked some parts a lot on a re-watch, basically everything with Marcus has been fine. But yeah that sequence in the factory fell extremely flat for me. I don't really get why Connor would be shocked by having to confront the Arnold model, or that the factory makes that model now. It's been kind of inevitable.
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Watched Hard Boiled again last night. It's still amazing. Hong Kong was such a cool setting for movies.
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dokmo posted:Nothing is equal to Fury Road, but I would argue that The Night Comes for Us approaches John Wick. Ehhhhhhhhh I enjoyed it but it felt slightly convoluted and I don't remember much about my time watching it aside from looking at my watch to see how long it had been going on for and wondering when it was going to finish. And that's not something I do with action movies! It had some great sections but overall it didn't hit the same kinda groove Wick does.
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mastershakeman posted:The only other big budget american action movies of note are john wick 1-3, mission impossible 4-6 , and fast and furious 3,5-8. None hold a candle to fury road Yeah, I'd say I totally agree with this. Extraction and The Outpost on Netflix are decent, if you're into Call of Duty style military dude action.
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Can't decide if it's efficient or just depressing that a guy can Rip Van Winkle into the thread, ask if he's missed anything worthwhile over the past decade and you guys have an agreed upon answer that's just "eh, John Wick, Mission Impossible, maybe a couple other things if you're crazy like that".
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jojoinnit posted:Can't decide if it's efficient or just depressing that a guy can Rip Van Winkle into the thread, ask if he's missed anything worthwhile over the past decade and you guys have an agreed upon answer that's just "eh, John Wick, Mission Impossible, maybe a couple other things if you're crazy like that". It's the legit answer. John Wick and Mission Impossible are two of the absolute best action series of the past decade. They're great action movies, nothing depressing about it.
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I don't know where you stand on it politically, but 13 Hours is pretty good as an action movie, once the siege starts. But, yeah, there really hasn't been anything genre defining in the meantime. A lot of people really like the bombast of the Avengers movies, so that might tickle your fancy. The Daredevil show has good action scenes, so does The Punisher. The Mission Impossible movies are stunt-heavy action movies, not so much on straight gun or fist violence, although the fight with Henry Cavill in the bathroom, though short, is great. I don't know, do people like the Resident Evil movies? They're definitely abysmal, but they're not offensively bad(mostly), just really dumb and some of their set pieces are entertaining.
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Basebf555 posted:It's the legit answer. John Wick and Mission Impossible are two of the absolute best action series of the past decade. They're great action movies, nothing depressing about it. Don't get me wrong, I love both. It just made me realise there's hardly been any Western action in my lifetime other than Matrix-Bourne-MI-John Wick. Most of the action I've been discovering is 80s stuff, if it's modern it's usually Asian. There's still plenty of action guys, they just don't do those films as much. I'm watching Bad Boys For Life right now and Will Smith is still bringing it, he just hasn't bothered to in years. Hemsworth is solid but tied up in Marvel except for Extraction. Emily Blunt was awesome in Edge of Tomorrow but these tend to be one-offs. Btw can we somehow give the stunt guy who held his own in that bathroom fight in the last MI his own something? I looked him up and his next biggest role was one of the Praetorian Guards in Star Wars. I haven't seen somebody move in a suit like that since they cast guys under 50 to be Bond. (Quick disclaimer that I'm currently up for 25 hours straight for a medical test so I know this is a bit rambly and I'm missing stuff, but I don't think I'm totally wrong)
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jojoinnit posted:Can't decide if it's efficient or just depressing that a guy can Rip Van Winkle into the thread, ask if he's missed anything worthwhile over the past decade and you guys have an agreed upon answer that's just "eh, John Wick, Mission Impossible, maybe a couple other things if you're crazy like that". They're all that good. I'd throw the two Raid movies on there too, but Wick and MI have set an incredibly high standard for well directed and choreographed action in the 2010s.
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There's other good american action (upgrade, dark fate ) but only so many that have the mad max level budget for big car scenes. mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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Narzack posted:I don't know where you stand on it politically, but 13 Hours is pretty good as an action movie, once the siege starts. But, yeah, there really hasn't been anything genre defining in the meantime. A lot of people really like the bombast of the Avengers movies, so that might tickle your fancy. The Daredevil show has good action scenes, so does The Punisher. The Mission Impossible movies are stunt-heavy action movies, not so much on straight gun or fist violence, although the fight with Henry Cavill in the bathroom, though short, is great. Oh, I forgot another Bay exploder- 6 Underground. It's got terrible writing, awful acting, and the worst editing I've seen in a AAA movie in a long time, but it's pretty and the bayhem can be hypnotic.
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In any given year there's plenty of films that have good enough action that you watch and enjoy them and then don't remember them. A decade is a long time, especially at the moment, and so people's responses were limited to those which stood out dramatically.
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Snowman_McK posted:In any given year there's plenty of films that have good enough action that you watch and enjoy them and then don't remember them. A decade is a long time, especially at the moment, and so people's responses were limited to those which stood out dramatically. You're right, yeah. I just reread my post and my point doesn't stand, I'm absolutely just remembering the standouts and I guess wishing there were more. E: watching Bad Boys For Life now and it's a pretty fun 90s-style action. Anyone seen the directors other stuff? jojoinnit fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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jojoinnit posted:You're right, yeah. I just reread my post and my point doesn't stand, I'm absolutely just remembering the standouts and I guess wishing there were more. I'd assumed all along michael bay directed that, color me surprised. How did that directing pair even get the gig?
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mastershakeman posted:I'd assumed all along michael bay directed that, color me surprised. How did that directing pair even get the gig? It's not like Will Smith and Martin Lawrence are especially hot properties in 2019, same for the bad boys license. So...probably like that. It was a strange film. It felt...small, like the pilot for a Bad Boys tv show/spinoff. I guess I'm just comparing it to number 2, which is the biggest, stupidest action movie of its decade (seriously, you may have forgotten a lot of how large, stupid and insane Bad Boys 2 is) Also, Seized, the latest Adkins joint, is loving dope, and just as much fun as the trailer made it look. Mario Van Peebles' Mexican accent is especially a highlight. There's a nice detail that, while we see the action from a normal perspective, the body cam footage the baddies are watching keeps playing in the background and is surprisingly elaborate for footage that was just recorded for the background. It's an impressive touch. Also, I really want to know why the punches and kick in Isaac Florentine movies always feel so much harder than they do in everyone else's movies except Zack Snyder's. Also, there's a long fight scene/shoot out in a strip club if you've been missing that particular cliche.
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dokmo posted:Nothing is equal to Fury Road, but I would argue that The Night Comes for Us approaches John Wick. I loving LOVE TNCfU so much. It’s probably one of my fav action movies in the last few years aside from JW3
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I've been watching every Albert Brooks movie for October but I took the time to throw in a few other things too. Including my review of Sudden Death that I watched the day before Welcome to Sudden Death but never posted. Sudden Death (1995) - 3/5 Wild set-up leads to crazy stunts and action. Really entertaining. The Penguin Fight is legendary. Not sure I agree with going to these lengths to save Arlo Givens of all people. Powers Boothe ruled and the strongest part was the filmmakers using every environment available to them in the stadium to stage the action. Environmental action is my favorite type. Biggest flaw was that the movie runs a bit long and a lot of that could probably be trimmed out of the opening part of the movie. Seized (2020) - 3.5/5 Another high quality Adkins / Florentine production. The pair can really get the most out of a small budget. Plenty of location shooting, some innovative ideas in direction, even a little bit of environmental stuff. Mario Van Peebles is off the charts in this. He adds so much to the basic plot with his performance. Would definitely be up for seeing him in more of him in this type of role, may have to go all the way back to stuff like Blowback and Guardian to get my fill. Coming in at a tight 80 minutes, Seized is well worth your time. It's up there with the best action movies of 2020. Rev (2020) - 2/5 Perfectly watchable CanCon version of The Fast and the Furious. Like, the opening of the film literally indicates that it's about Grand Theft Auto in the Greater Toronto Area, GTA in the GTA. Unfortunately, the budget prevented the film from having anything resembling octane or action. All the performance car driving is people going to the track to try drifting, and there's a one minute action sequence at the end. The people that made the film knew this, for sure, but nobody told the marketing department to back off on that image. What's left is a serviceable crime drama. The top 5 performers all put in good work, though Vivica Fox doesn't get a lot of material. The story has a lot of twists, and the low budget seams are not otherwise visible outside of the lack of driving action. I didn't feel like my time was wasted, but it also wasn't memorable in any particular way. Honest Thief (2020) - 2.5/5, Alamo Drive-In Perfectly enjoyable medium quality Liam Neeson action movie. Nothing outstanding, but all workman-like. Plot's all over the place and Jeffrey Donovan's Boston accent is wild. Movie gives you a little bit of everything and has just enough budget to deliver. Not a bad use of an evening at all. Unhinged (2020) - 3/5 Non-credits runtime of this film is 78 minutes and it's 78 minutes of insane psycho poo poo. Russell Crowe is a Joker and it's also a Dad's Rights movie. The plot is corny top-to-bottom but it walks the line and never gets in the way of the movie's effective tension building. It's very well-made and has especially cool car explosion action. It's not an all-time classic film but it is a very entertaining way to spend your time. 
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I really think Atomic Blonde is being unfairly ignored here, even if it's not a straight action flick. (Not that it's in the same subgenre as Fury Road or anything.)
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