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TheHan posted:Don’t forget all of Szark’s opponents were charmed by Amelia into dueling him, so it’s actually her fault all those people died. And since she was strangled to death the universe is in karmic balance. At least that's what I think Mookie intended, since he went out of his way to show that the duelists were enchanted and he writes like such a coward that he can't stand to have his pet characters do bad things. I think even Miranda sending TIM to the eyeball zone was retconned as being unintentional on her part, since if it wasn't then you could argue she hosed up royal and got the whole town of Lynn's Brook killed. Always gotta have that plausible deniability. Miranda's thing was retconned with an offhand line about planar banishment spells being hijacked by an outside force. Which raises the question of just where the hell she was originally planning to send him, but like all things in Dominic Deegan that need it it isn't explained. Unrelated to that, for the past year I've been hosting a Dominic Deegan reading stream on a Discord server I run, and it's resulted in a small amount of fan edits and fan art. Finally finished last night, and I thought you guys might appreciate a few.     
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Today on Inktober... More loving weird satyr porn! Or, rather, NON-loving porn. I'm really doubting at this point he's ever going to do anything hardcore - THIS is what turns him on. He's stopped even drawing the flacid dicks!  And another embarrassing portrait! None are as bad as that dwarf one from last year, but he attempted eyes again this time, and it's... Not good.
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Oct 19, 2020 00:21
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E: ^^^Gross.  Teaching her to read. You'd think Mookie would have a little self-awareness and try not steer directly into these cliches. But yeah, she's a child in a (dead?) adult's body. Also, yeah, still naked, and the fruit husk is on the ground, so no time or distance has passed since the tree incident. They just spontaneously decided to sit down for a lesson. Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Oct 19, 2020 00:39
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Xeno's paradox is back, in webcomic form!
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Oct 19, 2020 00:44
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Really hosed up and weird dynamic he's creating. I can't articulate just, how uncomfortable it is to watch a man mold the mind of the woman he'll inevitably sleep with.
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Oct 19, 2020 00:48
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Just want to point out that the necromancer is yet ANOTHER Mookie villain that failed before he even appeared in the strip, just like Dr. Hymn - corpsemommy here was likely always going to kill him the second he woke her up. So much for being a "blank slate".
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Oct 19, 2020 01:08
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TheHan posted:Really hosed up and weird dynamic he's creating. I can't articulate just, how uncomfortable it is to watch a man mold the mind of the woman he'll inevitably sleep with. So once someone calls him out for this being weird and bad again, she will be escorted out of the story for the next one
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Oct 19, 2020 01:12
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TheHan posted:Really hosed up and weird dynamic he's creating. I can't articulate just, how uncomfortable it is to watch a man mold the mind of the woman he'll inevitably sleep with. Wife husbandry.
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Oct 19, 2020 01:14
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Invisible Clergy posted:Wife husbandry. Also there's no proof she actually uses spoken language either, so we don't know if Snout is teaching her just literacy, or literally all language. Plus, incredibly weak to immediately drop any degree of trying to communicate nonverbally for 'no Snout teaches her reading and writing and they'll be totally able to communicate soon.' E: They will also never run out of ink, or lose the brush, or need more paper. This fantasy is so basic, so creepy, but also so frictionless. There's no actual sense of accomplishment, just events occurring.
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Oct 19, 2020 03:38
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TheHan posted:Really hosed up and weird dynamic he's creating. I can't articulate just, how uncomfortable it is to watch a man mold the mind of the woman he'll inevitably sleep with. The important thing will be that she'll be all clingy on snout, so he can remain the pure innocent softboy virgin, and the unintentional cuddles will once again be thrust upon him for him to enjoy, without him having to have engaged at all. It's again this fetishization of naivete in sex that is almost more gross than the bloody dead tits thing. And not to armchair psychoanalyze, but this again seems to be proof of Mookie's fundamental shame and discomfort with sex. He fantasize about punishment for women who are tempters for him. And now he fantasizes a way of experiencing sexual contact without desiring it, so he doesn't feel guilty about his urges. Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Oct 19, 2020 03:47
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Ironslave posted:Miranda's thing was retconned with an offhand line about planar banishment spells being hijacked by an outside force. Which raises the question of just where the hell she was originally planning to send him, but like all things in Dominic Deegan that need it it isn't explained. Shoutout to these btw. The dickbutt one in particular really made me laugh
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The Little Death posted:The important thing will be that she'll be all clingy on snout, so he can remain the pure innocent softboy virgin, and the unintentional cuddles will once again be thrust upon him for him to enjoy, without him having to have engaged at all. What's really remarkable is that he, again, wants it both ways. He'll depict pretty extreme fetishes and violence, but then turn around and depict weirdly desexualized porn and that naivete you describe. He doesn't actually seem to want the naive 'playtime' kind of sex, but it's the sex he thinks good people have (so he wants it as a sign of his own goodness) while reveling in depicting and elaborating on the bad sex that he won't admit to. He's got a truly impressive quantity of his unconscious spilling out of his mouth and drawings at all times without realizing it, or at least without admitting to it. If his weird satyr porn were explicitly engaging with his very obvious kinks, it would be deeply unpleasant to me but at least it would be honest and require a reckoning with the morality and dimensions of those fantasies!
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The Little Death posted:E: ^^^Gross. This is so loving stupid. Literally just teaching her to copy shapes, with absolutely zero idea if she can even comprehend the concept of language in the first place. Gonna bet that in a few pages they'll be having mostly fluent conversations but like she'll be writing in caveman speak. Because of course obstacles can't last for more than a few pages.
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Fister Roboto posted:Gonna bet that in a few pages they'll be having mostly fluent conversations but like she'll be writing in caveman speak. Because of course obstacles can't last for more than a few pages. You’re probably right and it will definitely suck.
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Oct 19, 2020 05:32
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Actually, learning how to copy shapes without any understanding of underlying concepts is a pretty good allegory for Mookie's art.
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Oct 19, 2020 05:35
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Joe Slowboat posted:
You're right about this. This moment is callign out for developing some sort of sign language that they could communicate with, or at least pictographs or something.instead it's just straigh to full english words written in one book they share, perhaps the most inefficient way to communicate in this case.
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Oct 19, 2020 05:49
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Compare this all to the current arc of NofNA, where the missing link of animal and human is released into the wild and is forced to come up with a common language to communicate with animals by. It shows the slow progression from finding what phonemes the animals of the wild can even make, and going through the steps of first establishing the IDEA of communication at all, then the few immediately necessary associations of sounds-to-ideas, and as it goes on characters are able to start communicating in broken language. Coming up with a functioning alphabet, teaching it and explaining the importance of writing itself, it does a ton of amazing things with it. Spends over 50 pages from the point of "we can't communicate" to "we can sorta communicate now." Here comes Mookie all "well he's deaf so he teaches her to read and write in a single panel there we go now my textless comic can go back to having full-page text dialogue like before glad that's out of the way"
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Oct 19, 2020 06:36
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What's bothering me about Legacy is that--much like so many things in the original comic--there's an interesting idea here. A deaf protagonist who leans on the written word both as a goal and a means to both understand and explore the world around him. Books and writing are evident themes in Legacy so far from how they're used to communicate with others, Snout's obsession with finding specific books, witches who work ink, and the story's present focus being in trying to figure out what one manuscript even meant. But this theme is mostly being used as a substitute for dialogue and exposition, with entire pages of the comic being Snout writing to himself so the audience knows what's happening and what's going on in his head. This is a problem better suited to using thought bubbles, and could even be used sparingly to establish a rhythm to the stories told; you could even slap them together with the week-long scenery porn shots, most of those have a lot of empty space. He could maybe get away with using it as a substitute for character conversation if done periodically, but sprinkling this with the occasional week of Snout writing (in giant text, even) just ends up making it seem as egregious.
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There are books and there is writing, but there's really no actual theme tying them together - this comic has no interest in advancing anything to say about writing, about reading, about communication. All it has to advance is 'ink witch sexy' and 'Snout good soft boy.' Dominic Deegan comics clearly had many, awful things to say about the world, but so far the Legacy has only been a combination of artistic failure and weird psychosexual sublimation.
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The Little Death posted:E: ^^^Gross. How is that supposed to work? Just write the alphabet once and now Corpse Bride can write? Teaching her to associate the word "SNOUT" with the moron next to her is the easy part, she'll remember that soon enough. Copying that word is also easy, as shown here. Snout should be able to teach her a couple of words that way, and realistically she'd be able to write something like "SNOUT FRUIT" to tell him that she's hungry after a few lessons. Starting by teaching her the alphabet is completely useless though. Snout can point to himself and to the "SNOUT" on the page, she'll make that connection. He can't explain to her what an "A" is. You don't teach children to write by having them write down the alphabet, you teach one letter at a time, and associate that letter with things. Snout taught her to copy every letter, but without the context those are just meaningless scribbles she copies to make her new friend happy. With that said, my new prediction is that by the end of the week, Corpse Bride will write "SNOUT IS FRIEND. I LIKE SNOUT." in Snout's journal. They will then cuddle naked and she will show up in his dreamvisionthing. Bonus prediction: When they wake up, Corpse Bride will write something else in Snout's journal. He'll look and it will say "IT'S BEEN 200 YEARS SINCE DOMINIC DEEGAN BEGAN HIS"
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Mookie is very committed to the no dialog constraint. She must immediately learn how to write.
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Oct 19, 2020 13:48
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In a plot twist the neat writing is actually the childwife.
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Imagine if he used this project as an excuse to really work on his use of bodylanguage, framing, and context to perform storytelling. But no, he's an Intellectual, a very smart nerd wizard man, who fetishizes the idea of books without really doing anything with the actual thing of books as themselves, it's just, books as magic symbols representing intelligence, therefore, gotta have everyone communicate in BOOKS. It's a dummy's idea of what being smart is. In the '82 cartoon movie Flight of Dragons, the hero is a nerd who's turned into a dragon in the classic isekai plot only it was made in 82. At the final battle against the evil wizard, the hero is turned back into a human nerd, and he defeats the wizard with the power of science, which denies the possibility for magic. But he does it by quoting science terms and facts out of context, like magic symbols of power, to kill the wizard. Even in that context, these signifiers were still attached to their signifieds. He was using them as a shorthand to assert a version of reality that precluded magic. And even THEN, it was a weak, lame, cop-out ending where instead of proving why the wizard's magic couldn't work, he just recites symbols from his own ontology instead. DD/Snout's Bumblefuck Story both go even further than this, where books are just, symbols that identify the user as "Better than everyone else." Words and writing are super cool! It's not about what information is held in it, it's not about how you use them, it's just, wow, books! I use words! I'm a better person than you because words. Now blank slate-chan has been given the power of WORD, and she is immediately civilized by the existence of that symbol itself. See the Ink Witches, who use the concept of WRITING as power. Do they write anything interesting? Do they do anything with writing? No, they just have a cargo-cultish, self-signifying symbol of WRITING, and therefore they're very powerful because that's very smart of them, because words make you smart! It's like all the time spent on their researching Acibek's principle, which is ultimately adding alliteration to your spell to make it more "lawful" and therefore more powerful. It ties into the entire ENTIRE thing where power in the Deeganverse is built entirely on force of will and personality alone, moreso, by being a Main Character. The books and "learning" and "cleverness" is just a symptom of the actual cause of victory: Mary Sue parasitism. I bet the most powerful people in the Deeganverse have bookshelves just FULL of books. They never bought them, they never read them, the books just spontaneously generate in response to them being powerful. In a proper, self-aware version of this, people in the world would freak out if they saw someone with books, because it meant they were some kind of horrifying cosmic parasite about to hijack their life's story and make it all about them.
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FlocksOfMice posted:I bet the most powerful people in the Deeganverse have bookshelves just FULL of books. They never bought them, they never read them, the books just spontaneously generate in response to them being powerful. Or an inexplicable open-air library near their barely-adorned house, played as a gag despite being vital to the character.
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Oct 19, 2020 15:17
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Or an inexplicable open-air library near their barely-adorned house, played as a gag despite being vital to the character. RIGHT!? I mean it explains why there was a random-rear end open-air library next to Snout. He's an IMPORTANT MAIN CHARACTER and that means he has to be a nerd! And what makes a nerd? Access to books! The contents of books? The knowledge imparted by books? No. Just books.
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Oct 19, 2020 15:25
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And C U R I O U S I T Y (lives his entire life as a hermit walking distance from a huge city made up of his race)
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This whole comic is a cycle of abuse. The Kink Witch grooms Snout, and now Snout is grooming her replacement.
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Oct 19, 2020 15:59
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Acibek's principle is a metamagic feat that boosts the damage of your blasting spells.
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FlocksOfMice posted:In the '82 cartoon movie Flight of Dragons, the hero is a nerd who's turned into a dragon in the classic isekai plot only it was made in 82. At the final battle against the evil wizard, the hero is turned back into a human nerd, and he defeats the wizard with the power of science, which denies the possibility for magic. But he does it by quoting science terms and facts out of context, like magic symbols of power, to kill the wizard. A Technocrat successfully asserting his own Paradigm against a Traditionalist.
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I hated that movie because the main character, supposedly a board game designer, kept calling the pieces in his game "chessmen".
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Rotten Red Rod posted:And C U R I O U S I T Y It's still such a bizarre decision (which granted, mookie, but--) to have week(s) of travel scenes that apparently took palce over the course of like maybe a day. 2 tops. And then have the place their traveling too be, as you say, an entire city of his race. he had the whole hemming & hawing over The Call To Adventure and he's gone all of like what maybe a couple miles from his house??
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FlocksOfMice posted:RIGHT!? I mean it explains why there was a random-rear end open-air library next to Snout. He's an IMPORTANT MAIN CHARACTER and that means he has to be a nerd! And what makes a nerd? Access to books! The contents of books? The knowledge imparted by books?  Bad people hate book. Good people like book. What is in book? Doesn't matter. Book is good.
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Remember when Snout and the Ink Witch found a library, but it was filled with the wrong kinds of books! Those books were full of sex and nudity, so they were owned by a gross freak. Not at all like our chaste heroes who just happen to find themselves naked and spooning every night.
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TheHan posted:Remember when Snout and the Ink Witch found a library, but it was filled with the wrong kinds of books! Those books were full of sex and nudity, so they were owned by a gross freak. Not at all like our chaste heroes who just happen to find themselves naked and spooning every night. That was a store.
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I'm gonna take a wild stab and say Corpse Bride is based even more on Mookie's wife, because she looks a lot like the nymph in his pin-ups.
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TheHan posted:Remember when Snout and the Ink Witch found a library, but it was filled with the wrong kinds of books! Those books were full of sex and nudity, so they were owned by a gross freak. Not at all like our chaste heroes who just happen to find themselves naked and spooning every night. Also it had the book they wanted anyway, for some reason.
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I'm really curious what kind of books Mookie reads, with the sort of respect he gives their very PRESENCE, that their existence alone explains their owner as someone of power and significance. Does he read mathematical treatises? Does he have a favorite section of the Principia? Maybe he's more into Kant? Maybe he's at the forefront of academia, subscribed to all the cutting edge journals? No? Maybe a fan of the classics, back when literature was synonymous with learning? Reading canonical works whose opposite page is full of footnotes explaining the dense references and themes? Maybe not? Maybe with how into writing he is, he's into stuff on that line? Derrida? ... Campbell?? It's comic books, isn't it. It's comic books.  It's comic books. e: like not to poo poo on comic books I'm obviously on an internet forum in a subforum for comic books i read webcomics all the time and there are some really good ones that deal with some really heavy poo poo, just because some jagoff wrote something complicated that other people worship doesn't make it inherently superior either, but going by the themes that get addressed in these comics I'm imagining the author reading like, "Evil villain has laser beam! Superhero PUNCHES! Hero yay victory!" and nodding his head and thinking this is the equivalent of any other piece of literature. Or even reading comics with complex themes and taking away only "Superhero PUNCHED badguy!" or "Superhero had bad thing happen? :c no, don't like that! only good thing!" FlocksOfMice fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Superhero comic books play an important part in the plot.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mookiebean/status/1317666527143989250 While looking for this, I found this: https://mobile.twitter.com/mookiebean/status/1318221706172026880 So yes literal child writing
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