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world war 2 is an event that is so much more philosophically challenging than any computer the comparison is absurd
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Amethyst posted:world war 2 is an event that is so much more philosophically challenging than any computer the comparison is absurd it's hosed that genocide is human history
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:yeah it would yeah. google earth atom bombs 747s pornhub 3d printers poo poo would be wild as hell Amethyst posted:they would be impressed but it wouldn't, like, upend their view of reality or whatever maybe, maybe not, depends on how attached to the idea that we could never walk on the moon or talk face to face with someone on the other side of the earth
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rotor posted:yeah. both of your last examples (moon landing, video telecommuncation) are from over 50 years ago, which kind of belies your point that futurism isn't a spent force
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Amethyst posted:both of your last examples (moon landing, video telecommuncation) are from over 50 years ago, which kind of belies your point that futurism isn't a spent force rotor posted:I'm sure someone in the 1900s would have said the same thing.
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Oct 19, 2020 04:43
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like you used people from the 1900s in your example for people who would have falsely claimed to be immune to future shock, but people from 1900 are pretty much just as close in time to the moon landing as we are.
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ok cool, its been real fun having this conversation with you. have a great night.
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rotor posted:ok cool, its been real fun having this conversation with you. have a great night. what?
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can someone tell me what the hell rotor's problem is? lol. Normal low stakes conversation about future shock involving theoretical people in 1900s results in huffiness. weird dude.
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Oct 19, 2020 04:50
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Amethyst posted:like you used people from the 1900s in your example for people who would have falsely claimed to be immune to future shock, but when did movies get invented? like 1910 or 1920? it's weird how we're literally in the future
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Oct 19, 2020 04:51
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SmokaDustbowl posted:when did movies get invented? like 1910 or 1920? it's weird how we're literally in the future it's a cliche but post-modernity really is a trip
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Amethyst posted:it's a cliche but post-modernity really is a trip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_K_79O21hk
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Amethyst posted:what? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ftFufZ344
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SmokaDustbowl posted:when did movies get invented? like 1910 or 1920? it's weird how we're literally in the future movies evolved gradually over the second half of the 19th century as photographic technology gradually became capable of capturing images in a fraction of a second. the first things that could meet most modern definitions of "movie" appeared in the 1890s but were mostly just setting up a camera in a random place and recording a few seconds of whatever happened. by the 10s and 20s they were making feature length films with scripts and actors and special effects and starting to experiment with synchronized recorded audio
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haveblue posted:movies evolved gradually over the second half of the 19th century as photographic technology gradually became capable of capturing images in a fraction of a second. the first things that could meet most modern definitions of "movie" appeared in the 1890s but were mostly just setting up a camera in a random place and recording a few seconds of whatever happened. by the 10s and 20s they were making feature length films with scripts and actors and special effects and starting to experiment with synchronized recorded audio cool book report
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SmokaDustbowl posted:cool book report it is. thank you for writing is haveblue
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Oct 19, 2020 06:11
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Amethyst posted:Do you really think an iPhone would freak out someone who watched steam engines go from dicky little parlor tricks to building sized behemoths in their lifetime? i think the fact that the miracle of the iphone isn't the iphone, but the 387 billion dollars of network infrastructure enabling it to work anywhere, and also the fact that any old person can slap down money for it. if you got the cash you can walk into a store and buy the world's most advanced personal communicator
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First post in 4 years. Welcome back YOSPOS. I stepped away from the forums for 4 years and when I came back, it was just reposts from twitter. :-/
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Jonny 290 posted:i think the fact that the miracle of the iphone isn't the iphone, but the 387 billion dollars of network infrastructure enabling it to work anywhere, and also the fact that any old person can slap down money for it. if you got the cash you can walk into a store and buy the world's most advanced personal communicator ignoring all that when you get a working interface for the entire loving dumb internet that costs $200 (for a cheapo, shaddup we can go lower) with a service plan for idk, a couple hours minimum wage per month and then it hits you just watched adopt a highway wherein ethan hawke is off the grid on what my homie just pointed out would have been the grid (oregon uses a grid for penal and not a baseball system) for his third strike it's like reverse scifi thinking of someone locked up for a deece fraction of their life for an oz and missing out on basically everything i myself went through a timewarp between 2002 and 2009 just not giving a poo poo about computers or the internet and then my dad gave me an old laptop of his at christmas and i ended up watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dunKAwRN3P8 also my computer is telling me i have something to watch called tesla i hope they have the pigeon romance
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reading posted:First post in 4 years. Welcome back YOSPOS. a valuable service imho as it means I don't have to go on twitter
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every era of people thought they had a grasp of the direction of the world and the future of technology, and every previous era they were incredibly wrong in everything substantial. we're right now though, for sure, the matrix it is. for some reason.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:every era of people thought they had a grasp of the direction of the world and the future of technology, and every previous era they were incredibly wrong in everything substantial. the ancients just didnt have anime, like smoka does
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99.6% of poors own an anime???
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reading posted:First post in 4 years. Welcome back YOSPOS. Welcome back. It's posters like YOU who will propel the Something Awful forums back into being the primary shitposting influencer of the 2020s!
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I think Amethyst is definitely right in that no single piece of technology itself would upend someone from 1920's entire worldview and understanding of the universe, but them trying to come to grips with contemporary society as a whole absolutely would
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just go read alvin toffler's future shock remember that it was written in the late sixties and published in 1970.
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infernal machines posted:just go read alvin toffler's future shock lol I like that he's given sole credit as author (not from you, on the book's cover and Penguin's website as well) when the first line about it on wikipedia is "Future Shock is a 1970 book by the futurist Alvin Toffler,[1][2] written together with his spouse Adelaide Farrell,"
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indigi posted:lol I like that he's given sole credit as author (not from you, on the book's cover and Penguin's website as well) when the first line about it on wikipedia is "Future Shock is a 1970 book by the futurist Alvin Toffler,[1][2] written together with his spouse Adelaide Farrell," hmm...  nope  nope  ah, his wife gets a shoutout on page 488, in the acknowledgements. "it is, in large measure, her book as well as mine" not in any official capacity, naturally, but you know infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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indigi posted:but them trying to come to grips with contemporary society as a whole absolutely would
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The decline of community institutions would probably shock many people.
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infernal machines posted:hmm... Every edition of this book has a hokey dated futuristic aesthetic it rules
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TOOT BOOT posted:The decline of community institutions would probably shock many people. and might have shocked all of us every day if we were able to reflect on such things while fully immersed in them.
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Amethyst posted:Every edition of this book has a hokey dated futuristic aesthetic it rules the book itself is weird because reading it you realize what it describes is just what anyone posting itt has lived with their entire lives. the futureshock he foresaw is just our completely normalized everyday life and i can't really conceive of a world that doesn't work like this, because i've never experienced it
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Oct 19, 2020 23:12
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Primal's back for another season, this time with paleo-witchcraft. 
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If anyone here has an Audible subscription, they have what amounts to a private library with some (but not all) of their books available. If so, consider Robert Paxton's 2004 classic Anatomy Of Fascism, very possibly the best and most rigorous/analytic interrogation of this ideology.
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watched the first episode of lovecraft country that sure was something
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even the usually overly positive media review sites (e.g. io9) are struggling to say entirely positive things about the show after the first season. generally, that's not a great sign
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Jonny 290 posted:my favorite dumb time travel thing is the set of questions posed by: dont read the time traveller's wife, its a gross af loop of grooming
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American gods is coming back with Danny Trejo?! https://twitter.com/officialdannyt/status/1314982834596057088
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I'm halfway through s1 of lovecraft country and it's entertaining which is more than I can say about westworld or raised by wolves. it feels a little ham-fisted at times but it's fun
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