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Ghost Leviathan posted:More the problem there is it's all written by and increasingly for weird nerds who have no concept of what a healthy or realistic relationship looks like, but to be fair, it's not like most of Japan seems to either. Or the rest of the world, for that matter. tbh this is a lot of why I keep stanning Fate: Heaven's Feel so hard. the relationship at the center of it isn't really necessarily healthy but it is sure as gently caress realistic, and there is at least one big scene in the second movie that had me straight-up ugly crying because it was so similar to conversations me and my current partner have had. it's a relationship between two hosed up people trying desperately to help each other get rid of their brain spiders, and it is executed shockingly goddamn well. e: like, y'all should all go watch those movies if the requisite CWs don't scare you off (horrifying child abuse is a major plot point, and while it's handled about as tastefully as possible, it's still extremely not pleasant). there's people who will gripe about the movies because they're not quite as good as the original visual novel, and... frankly those people aren't really wrong, there's some cuts and alterations I'm not super happy with, but just taking them in a vacuum, the HF movies might straight up be some of the best animated media of the past 20 years. if this is a medium you care about do not loving sleep on those movies. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Boxman posted:I'm 99% certain that's a scene that maybe was just made for the trailers where they have this exact conversation, and yeah, it's "breaks" because that's the saying. I really don't think they meant the message to be that, I think it was more meant to be just a general "be happy with yourself" and not "just accept your place in life" or whatever. It's muddled a bit I suppose. The second movie's general theme of how to handle a friend or loved one moving away resonated with me a lot more, but the concept of Vanellope moving to a different game didn't really work with the rules they already established in the world with the first movie. It in fact ends up making Vanellope look really selfish because it SHOULD put her entire game in jeopardy for her to leave the arcade and join this online game. They kind of gloss over that but 
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Meet the Robinsons is atrocious All the wacky family members like the dude with the puppet wife - so wacky! The unfathomable kung fu movie parody in the dinner scene What the gently caress were they thinking
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Chicken Little is absolutely the worst movie, ugly graphics, incredibly mean-spirited, a lot of confusing casting choices (It feels like everyone could've been better voiced by someone else in the cast), and there's the gross sexism with Foxy Loxey
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Did they ever undo the brain washing? I remember them being all "like her better this way, lol" but can't be sure. Also I did not like that ending in Kubo either.
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World Famous W posted:Did they ever undo the brain washing? I remember them being all "like her better this way, lol" but can't be sure. they did not! In the ending where they watched the adaptation of the events, she was still in the Pink Scarlet O'Hara get up and acting super girly.
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Hedrigall posted:I would watch Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen 2 back to back 10 times before I watch MTR again
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Gotta say, there's a lot of Meet the Robinsons hate in this thread, and I won't stand for it. It's cute! It's a fun movie! It's very briefly got Tom Selleck! I enjoyed Meet the Robinsons as well. The worst I can say about it, is that’s it’s a very okay movie. It’s not great, it’s bad, you’ll watch it, enjoy it and never think about it again.
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I like the jokes about how ridiculous Meet the Robinsons' premise is, like toward the end where 11 year old Lewis takes 16 year old Wilbur aside and says "Need I remind you, I'm your father, you have to do what I say! Little moments like that or everything Bowler Hat Guy says.
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The only thing I remember about Meet the Robinson's is this joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93B072j-E3I Admittedly, it does make me laugh every time I see that big dopey T-rex wiggle his arms around. It is one more Sensible Chuckle (TM) then I got out of Chicken Little. That movie is just the absolutely worst of all things. Wreck it Ralph 2 is just deeply disappointing. The first was so good and had such a great message. I've used clips of it in my classroom after all. I struggled to even finish the second one as it was just bad on numerous levels, especially its messaging. The Disney Princess meta scene is, at least, cute though. It does have that and a brief appearance of a shifty fox in its favor.
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DoctorWhat posted:Bowler Hat Guy is a really solid villain in a movie desperately in search of a plot Yeah, the plot in meet the Robinsons is quite thin. But I will take thin over bad any day. Bowler hat guy is a loving phenomenal villain.
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The best part of Ralph Breaks the Internet was the scroll bar on the end credits, letting theater workers know how much longer they had to wait before the auditorium would empty for cleaning.
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Raya and the Last Dragon trailer I see Korra is getting new work? Just joking, but that blue outfit and the skin color are really evocative. Looks nice I guess.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNCDu4nmt8M Well now! This doesn't look half bad. I could do without cyclops Trump, but the rest is promising.
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paradoxGentleman posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNCDu4nmt8M I laughed at the black light joke. And they've turned comments off, the cowards!
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The_Doctor posted:I laughed at the black light joke. And they've turned comments off, the cowards! That blacklight joke was amazing. I had to rewind that one.
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The_Doctor posted:I laughed at the black light joke. And they've turned comments off, the cowards! Considering that Dot mentions mansplaining, that was probably a prudent move to keep the chud vultures away from any children who happen across the funny cartoon trailer. e: speaking of, they are probably going to sweep all the inappropriate treatment of Hello Nurse under the rug, aren't they. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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paradoxGentleman posted:Considering that Dot mentions mansplaining, that was probably a prudent move to keep the chud vultures away from any children who happen across the funny cartoon trailer. I doubt she's gonna return in any recognisable form, hopefully the same fate for most of the one-note characters, especially those whose note is 'victim/perpetrator of sexual harassment'. I haven't actually seen much of the original show, though sounds like nostalgia's mostly filtered down to the good stuff. Katie Ka-Boom might be iffy now, though I did like the one short where the dad actually stands up to her with the prom curfew and comes to a compromise.
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yeah, Katie Ka-Boom's one joke is "Ha ha teenage girls are monsters am I right?' yeah, teenagers tend to overreact to everything just the presentation is kind of gross. And frankly, Youtube should have comments off by default because holy poo poo somehow it ends up being complete dregs of the dregs even polite conversations eventually get hijacked by internet tough guys or ideological wonks spewing racism or death threats over the most innocuous of things. So can't blame Hulu for going 'nah, we don't want racial slurs in our video directed at kids'
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Youtube also recentishly started automatically turning off comments for anything flagged as kid-related content.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Considering that Dot mentions mansplaining, that was probably a prudent move to keep the chud vultures away from any children who happen across the funny cartoon trailer. They've explicitly said almost none of the side characters from the original are returning, and that this explicitly includes Hello Nurse, presumably because of this exact issue. Which, I'm gonna be honest, feels odd because I feel like the exclamation she's named for is one of the more long-lived cultural memes the show spawned.
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That Raya trailer is just gorgeous. WDFA's movies look better and better each time
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The 7th Guest posted:a foam party reference in animaniacs huh The crew got exposed to the burgeoning furry fanbase in the worst way possible way back in the day, it seems terribly fitting The winged unicorn with the incredibly manly voice is probably going to be a favourite
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IUG posted:I thought the message of the first one was not to be lovely to service workers because they provide a valuable role in society that you will regret if you treat them poorly. Like the trash collectors or janitors. This is 100% the story if it were told by Felix or one of the townsfolk. It'd be less interesting but a better lesson. Sir Lemming posted:WIR's message is really just "the grass is always greener on the other side", don't try to make it more than that. Anyone could take that too far and decide they should never try to change anything, but that's not really the movie's problem. It's a pretty standard-issue message. Macaluso posted:I really don't think they meant the message to be that, I think it was more meant to be just a general "be happy with yourself" and not "just accept your place in life" or whatever. It's muddled a bit I suppose. Yeah I don't think its meant to be "stay in your place" exactly, but its a bit stronger htan "the grass is greener," because the consequences of seeing what the other side are so dire. Like, Freaky Friday does the grass is greener message but it isn't like kid-in-mom's-body accidentally runs a car into an orphanage. I don't think its particularly intentional (Nightmare Before Christmas runs through the same lessons, after all), but it is sort of funny. Shadow Hog posted:Thank you for reminding me that Frozen 2 is a film that exists that I did not get to see. I've had Disney+ for almost a year and haven't bothered? (Then again most of my spare time is wasted on YouTube, so...) I think we've talked about it in this thread, but the making of doc on D+ was fascinating for this. They're in the last stretch of the movie and still fixing basic plot points. Like, exactly who the gently caress is singing to Elsa didn't get locked in until very late in the game, to the point where it wasn't at all guaranteed that Show Yourself was going to end up in the final cut (which explains why the less-good Into the Unknown got the big advertising/awards push). As they were debating who should be singing to Elsa, it occurred to me that I had seen the movie in theaters and really couldn't remember.
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Frozen 2 is half a fun fantasy adventure film and half really awful romantic comedy where the boyfriend keeps trying to ask his girlfriend to marry him while hijinx ensue and get in his way
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Macaluso posted:Frozen 2 is half a fun fantasy adventure film and half really awful romantic comedy where the boyfriend keeps trying to ask his girlfriend to marry him while hijinx ensue and get in his way With regard to that part, it's like I'm seeing the same movie or TV show over and over again, except with characters that are, in that moment, only slightly different galenanorth fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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Macaluso posted:...boyfriend keeps trying to ask his girlfriend to marry him while hijinx ensue and get in his way It's odd because that whole subplot is definitely the worst part of the movie, but Lost in the Woods is the only part of the movie I remember really enjoying because it was so bonkers and out of nowhere.
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Darth TNT posted:Raya and the Last Dragon trailer I was promised that there would be a sarcastic talking dragon in this movie, but I see no evidence of such in the trailer. Very disappointing.
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The sarcastic talking dragon was the friends we made along the way.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:It's odd because that whole subplot is definitely the worst part of the movie, but Lost in the Woods is the only part of the movie I remember really enjoying because it was so bonkers and out of nowhere. The song is great, but just like the troll song in the first movie, which I also thought was a good song on its own, it stops the movie completely dead in its tracks and should not have been in the movie. pospysyl posted:I was promised that there would be a sarcastic talking dragon in this movie, but I see no evidence of such in the trailer. Very disappointing. You see its silhouette at the end of the trailer. I really hope it's still the bright pink looking dragon from the concept art they showed a while ago.
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The only proposal hijinx subplot I like/tolerate is Bernard's in Rescuers Down Under because he's a Neurotic little mess so it's in-character for him, and he knew when to stow it and wait until a far more appropriate time to pop the question.
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I liked how Tangled the Series handled it, because Eugene's proposals were sweet and well thought out, it was just the wrong time each time. Also we knew from the movie that he asked her multiple times before she said yes, so it was fun to see that playing out.
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Darth TNT posted:Raya and the Last Dragon trailer Looks great, like it might mix the adventure of Moana with the action of Big Hero 6
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It's neat to see Disney doing something so High Fantasy, with unique mystical creatures, warring kingdoms, and (seemingly) chosen hero destinies. Especially one that isn't curtailed in Fairy Tale fantastical lightness, or deliberately entrenched in a specific culture (just general East Asia, in this case).
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Roth posted:I think Breadwinner was really solid in every way. Probably their best work imo. yeah! watch the breadwinner! cartoon saloon has made more than two movies lol
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