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PhazonLink posted:doesnt Rudy have a gang of cliton hating FBIers in NY? assuming he still has a gang inside the FBI, the fact he couldnt get anyone to make noise with it seems to be lol Among the problems with that is that Clinton isn't running now so anything blowing up Joe Biden has zero effect on her. Also, the Federal Bureau of Investigation is no longer J. Edgar Hoover's personal mafia. It's transitioned fairly well into a profession investigative government agency that is proud of its collective reputation and has absolutely no desire to flush that down the Trump shitter because of Giulinani. Any of Ruby's "gang" attempting to go against that would get stomped hard by the rest of the agency. Plus, institutional memory is a thing. The FBI remembers that it was Comey's letter in 2016 that probably tipped the balance against Hillary and they have, again, no desire to be the focus of that kind of bullshit again.
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socialsecurity posted:They've done this several times release innocent looking stuff then seed fake poo poo to frame people inside it. This has been pointed out to you directly several times but you still pretend otherwise. If it's not authentic, how come he keeps posting that it must be authentic, in this thread, over and over again without any evidence? And why does he ignore the many examples of forged/altered emails in other major Russian hacks? 
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selec posted:This is partially why I lean towards the content being authentic; if you’re just going to make up stuff, why is it this bland?
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Oct 23, 2020 01:04
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Did I suddenly age or did Twitter imbeds get way smaller?
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Oct 23, 2020 01:04
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Nobody can fake text, that's just not possible! */sarcasm*
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Oct 23, 2020 01:04
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The WSJ story Trump was talking about is now live. It's an opinion piece, so they're basically just trying to launder the story through the WSJ name. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-biden-family-legacy-11603409528
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Oct 23, 2020 01:05
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CommieGIR posted:Nobody can fake text, that's just not possible! */sarcasm* I mean, has anyone said it's fake? This is a pretty pathetic 'scandal' without more proof but it's real weird to hear people say 'it must be fake' when the people involved aren't even saying that.
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Oct 23, 2020 01:06
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Guze posted:Should have just used Wikileaks again turns out you shouldn't have tried to arrest the rapist who was trying to avoid his rape crimes for fake crimes
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Oct 23, 2020 01:08
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I love how they’re not even trying to give their BS Huntergate a minimum of believability by having it publicly removed from the Trump campaign. Even if buttermails was a overblown idiot thing of a scandal, the thing that really sealed the deal back in 2016 was when Comey did his thing; while lovely and biased, he wasn’t working for Trump and in hindsight has shown no indications of being his loyal fixer. How can they expect anyone to believe this whole circus when they, and their lapdogs on twitter, are the only ones bringing receipts, never mind that the receipts are written in Nigerian Prince speech?
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Oct 23, 2020 01:08
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Dear Joe Biden - When Trump drops this on you tonight, you can respond "So we're skipping the investigation part and going straight to the sentencing? I prefer Law and Order, myself" and then take off your sunglasses You're welcome
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Oct 23, 2020 01:09
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This Tony guy owes 600gs to China. loving hell they're bad at this.
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, has anyone said it's fake? This is a pretty pathetic 'scandal' without more proof but it's real weird to hear people say 'it must be fake' when the people involved aren't even saying that. Given the unbelievably suspect provenance of this and the even more suspect and/or unknown supposed chain of custody of any of this and particularly that the latest stuff is being leaked without any header or metadata (in addition to the russian cellphone network stuff), people probably feel like the burden of proof is 99% on one side in this.
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Medullah posted:Dear Joe Biden - That's CSI Miami
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, has anyone said it's fake? This is a pretty pathetic 'scandal' without more proof but it's real weird to hear people say 'it must be fake' when the people involved aren't even saying that. Why even bother legitimizing it? The whole pig-fucker denial strategy goes out the window when the accusers are widely acknowledged for being pathological liars.
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I mean, pretending that we should just ignore this entire story and slap a "disinformation" label on it is certainly the easy way out, but it doesn't seem the likeliest situation. A lot of you seem to be conflating hacking and disinformation (two different things) into one big category of dismissal, and that's just not how it works. It's pretty drat likely to me Hunter was hacked or dumb enough to leave a laptop with some random dude and forget about it, or literally both. The dude has issues. The Burisma stuff faded quickly since it's clearly built on the Shokin conspiracy that's already been disproven. The China stuff is new. A text saying "Don't mention Joe being involved" is going to come off as incriminating to some extent even if it's nothing and leads to absolutely nothing. Note, that text was between Gilliar and Bobulinski and willingly turned over by Bobulinski, it's not from a hack or from the laptop, but from Hunters former business partners. Stuff from that WSJ editorial: "Mr. Gilliar explains in a December 2015 text that there will be a deal between the Chinese and “one of the most prominent families from the U.S.” A month later he introduces Rob Walker, also “a partner of Biden.” In March 2016, Mr. Gilliar tells Mr. Bobulinski the Chinese entity is CEFC, which is shaping up to be “the Goldmans of China.” Mr. Gilliar promises that same month to “develop” the terms of a deal “with hunter.” Note that in 2015-16, Joe Biden was still vice president." Arkage fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Phoix posted:The WSJ story Trump was talking about is now live. It's an opinion piece, so they're basically just trying to launder the story through the WSJ name. Kim Strassel has spent the last 4 years bemoaning how Michael Flynn is a patriot and perfectly innocent, Carter Page was set up and is innocent, Burisma is a totally real scandal, and Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize it's extremely funny she was the closest thing to a real journalist they could get, even at a Murdoch paper Arkage posted:I mean, pretending that we should just ignore this entire story and slap a "disinformation" label on it is certainly the easy way out, but it doesn't seem the likeliest situation. you do not, actually, "gotta hand it to them"
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Watch this if just for Bobolink's breathless, tense, half-shouted delivery of a prepared statement followed by a refusal to answer questions. After watching it I can state with great confidence that I have no idea what crime was committed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiiSq7toqlQ
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Potato Salad posted:Holy poo poo, it's the loving Russians.  This is like a punchline out of a Donald Duck comic strip. Beagle Boys-level operation all around.
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Oct 23, 2020 01:15
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, has anyone said it's fake? This is a pretty pathetic 'scandal' without more proof but it's real weird to hear people say 'it must be fake' when the people involved aren't even saying that. You may be familiar with quote attributed to LBJ, "I know it's not true, but let's make the son-of-a-bitch deny it!" The only thing that formally saying "no this is fake" would do is make it a story that the real networks have to cover, because now there are two sides for them to "both sides". It's the "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" situation, there's no reason to accept their framing or do anything to try to show that it's fake because how exactly is he supposed to prove that isn't his email address or that the laptop (which no one has even seen) isn't his? Edit: If selec, sexpig or arkage could outline what they would accept as evidence this is fake, that would speed this process up substantially. Who or what could present evidence that this isn't real? What form does that evidence need to take? Do you think that said evidence could be produced within the next couple of days, before much more voting happens? Do you think that this situation is worth addressing rather than any other issue relating to the campaign? BougieBitch fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/judiciarygop/status/1318963845076029441?s=21 lol
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Arkage posted:I mean, pretending that we should just ignore this entire story and slap a "disinformation" label on it is certainly the easy way out, but it doesn't seem the likeliest situation. A lot of you seem to be conflating hacking and disinformation (two different things) into one big category of dismissal, and that's just not how it works. It's pretty drat likely to me Hunter was hacked or dumb enough to leave a laptop with some random dude and forget about it, or literally both. The dude has issues. The Burisma stuff faded quickly since it's clearly built on the Shokin conspiracy that's already been disproven. The China stuff is new. A text saying "Don't mention Joe being involved" is going to come off as incriminating to some extent even if it's nothing and leads to absolutely nothing. Note, that text was between Gilliar and Bobulinski and willingly turned over by Bobulinski, it's not from a hack or from the laptop, but from Hunters former business partners. Even if it's true it's utterly irrelevant to anything and not in the least bit scandalous. Why are you so intently whatabouting this?
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Arkage posted:I mean, pretending that we should just ignore this entire story and slap a "disinformation" label on it is certainly the easy way out, but it doesn't seem the likeliest situation. A lot of you seem to be conflating hacking and disinformation (two different things) into one big category of dismissal, and that's just not how it works. It's pretty drat likely to me Hunter was hacked or dumb enough to leave a laptop with some random dude and forget about it, or literally both. The dude has issues. The Burisma stuff faded quickly since it's clearly built on the Shokin conspiracy that's already been disproven. The China stuff is new. A text saying "Don't mention Joe being involved" is going to come off as incriminating to some extent even if it's nothing and leads to absolutely nothing. Note, that text was between Gilliar and Bobulinski and willingly turned over by Bobulinski, it's not from a hack or from the laptop, but from Hunters former business partners. Uh, Tony Baloney wasn't a business partner at all though dude? His statement was "he was on an email chain one time" How are goons so easily falling for a Rudy scheme hatched straight out of Burn After Reading?
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"Damnit twitter let me spread false information already!" TulliusCicero posted:Uh, Tony Baloney wasn't a business partner at all though dude? His statement was "he was on an email chain one time" To own the libs, obv.
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Wilbur Swain posted:Watch this if just for Bobolink's breathless, tense, half-shouted delivery of a prepared statement followed by a refusal to answer questions. After watching it I can state with great confidence that I have no idea what crime was committed. This feels a lot like that Wohl/Burkman stunt a few years (?) back when Burkman's fly was down. They look like they're lecturing a near-empty conference room in a Holiday Inn that Hunter is a crook. Everything about this reeks of desperation.
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Phoix posted:The WSJ story Trump was talking about is now live. It's an opinion piece, so they're basically just trying to launder the story through the WSJ name. Lmfao they couldn’t publish outside of an op-Ed because they can’t verify it themselves (it’s all bullshit). Cowards, and Murdoch is pathetic using all of his media assets to push this story to help....Trump.
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Borat 2 is up on Amazon. I am watching it right now and it is already gold.
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, has anyone said it's fake? This is a pretty pathetic 'scandal' without more proof but it's real weird to hear people say 'it must be fake' when the people involved aren't even saying that. this is barely Infowars level filler material for conspiracies
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selec posted:This is partially why I lean towards the content being authentic; if you’re just going to make up stuff, why is it this bland? The thing you're doing right now--where you're thinking well, maybe there's something there--even if it isn't exactly the most crazy thing being suggested...but something--that's it. That's the goal of the disinformation campaign. Because they're not trying to get anyone arrested, they're not on some crusade for justice or something. They're trying to make the news cycle about what Biden may or may not have done, and to muddy the waters enough so that as many people as possible end up throwing up their hands and deciding that it's impossible to know anything for sure. Motherfucker literally went on Fox and announced he was going to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the Bidens. Then he went and met with a bunch of Russian assets. And now he's saying he has dirt on the Bidens. There's no mystery here. There's nothing to figure out. It is as obvious an effort at disinformation as can be imagined.
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TulliusCicero posted:Uh, Tony Baloney wasn't a business partner at all though dude? His statement was "he was on an email chain one time" Because they hate the libs so hard they constantly believe anything Trump says about them, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:This feels a lot like that Wohl/Burkman stunt a few years (?) back when Burkman's fly was down. They look like they're lecturing a near-empty conference room in a Holiday Inn that Hunter is a crook. Also in the same category, Joe Arpaio's press conference presenting "proof" that Obama's birth certificate was forged. There's something in the delivery. Can't quite put my finger on it.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:This feels a lot like that Wohl/Burkman stunt a few years (?) back when Burkman's fly was down. They look like they're lecturing a near-empty conference room in a Holiday Inn that Hunter is a crook. its because it is. this isnt the best and brightest of the GOP ghoul fixer class on this campaign. its loving rudy and whatever shady outfit that stole the poo poo for him and now they are picking this dipshit to stab some guy he vaguely knew in the back in some vague hope it works. if they had real poo poo. they would have dumped in in june or earlier. or hell dumped it before super tuesday.
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 for those who don't know: this is apparently a new Twitter thing that has nothing to do with the content or veracity of the linked article. Twitter just notices that people like to retweet without actually clicking through & reading articles. The House Judiciary GOP isn't being censored, they just didn't actually read the article at least not on that account. e: added source, which cites other people who got irrationally angry at something they didn't read, standing in the way of their retweeting BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Uh, Tony Baloney wasn't a business partner at all though dude? His statement was "he was on an email chain one time" "Mr. Bobulinski’s text messages show he was recruited for the project by James Gilliar, a Hunter associate. Mr. Gilliar explains in a December 2015 text that there will be a deal between the Chinese and “one of the most prominent families from the U.S.” A month later he introduces Rob Walker, also “a partner of Biden.” In March 2016, Mr. Gilliar tells Mr. Bobulinski the Chinese entity is CEFC, which is shaping up to be “the Goldmans of China.” Mr. Gilliar promises that same month to “develop” the terms of a deal “with hunter.” Note that in 2015-16, Joe Biden was still vice president." WSJ editorial. Sure seems like a business partner. (I don't have a sub so I can't read the whole thing, meh.) The deal didn't actually take place until 2017ish though, as pointed out earlier, so it's probably all technically legal, just run of the mill shady capitalism stuff. By 'not a good look,' I mean has potential to harm Biden w/swings and moderates, which we definitely don't want to happen. Biden had better have practiced his counters on this topic for the debate because god knows it's probably all Trump is going to talk about the whole time. Arkage fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Angry_Ed posted:"Damnit twitter let me spread false information already!" For those that don't know, that twitter "Warning Label" shows up for everyone all the time now, presumably to keep people from embarassing themselves in a retweet. Though it is hilarious to peek inside the right wing sphere when "Jim Jordan independently verifies emails" is something that anyone takes seriously, and that absolutely should get itself moderated out of existence.
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, has anyone said it's fake? This is a pretty pathetic 'scandal' without more proof but it's real weird to hear people say 'it must be fake' when the people involved aren't even saying that. Why are they images? Probably because they are trying to hide any forensic data embedded in the actual texts that could be used to figure out who the sender and receiver are or when and where they were sent. If they were legitimate then why do that?
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Arkage posted:"Mr. Bobulinski’s text messages show he was recruited for the project by James Gilliar, a Hunter associate. Mr. Gilliar explains in a December 2015 text that there will be a deal between the Chinese and “one of the most prominent families from the U.S.” A month later he introduces Rob Walker, also “a partner of Biden.” In March 2016, Mr. Gilliar tells Mr. Bobulinski the Chinese entity is CEFC, which is shaping up to be “the Goldmans of China.” Mr. Gilliar promises that same month to “develop” the terms of a deal “with hunter.” Note that in 2015-16, Joe Biden was still vice president." WSJ editorial. Sure seems like a business partner. You would think if there was any evidence that Joe Biden did something improper, Ron Jonhson's multi-million dollar investigation after the impeachment vote would have found it - especially as it took place after Rudy already got in trouble digging for dirt on Joe.
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TulliusCicero posted:Uh, Tony Baloney wasn't a business partner at all though dude? His statement was "he was on an email chain one time" I don't think you're really being fair here. None of the harebrained schemes in Burn After Reading are nearly as stupid as this one.
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