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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:12 vs 16 is such a gamble right now though. I'd say BF1/BFV were the first games that needed more than 8 threads. If they're coming, I don't think we will see games that need a minimum of 8 good cores for at least 2 years after the console releases. Most games are still going to be cross-gen for a good while. My 6700k does 100fps+ on bfv, bottlenecked by 1080ti, did you mean more than four threads instead? Cos BFV was definitely the game that convinced quite a few people that 6600Ks etc wasn't going to cut the mustard anymore.
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Paul MaudDib posted:5800X is an objectively bad buy. 100% agreed and if I'm on the same page with Paul you know it's bad. Reminder that a 5700X will probably come out in another few months, once AMD has finished vacuuming up money from the  over-hyped guys. If you don't need to get a CPU in the launch window, just wait for the better price/performance CPUs.
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based on the rate of growth in parallelism in games for the last 20 years, you will need an 8/16 CPU in roughly 2038. (cant wait to have this quoted in like 7 years when everyone has 130 core ARM cpus implanted in their rear end hole)
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:My 6700k does 100fps+ on bfv, bottlenecked by 1080ti, did you mean more than four threads instead? Cos BFV was definitely the game that convinced quite a few people that 6600Ks etc wasn't going to cut the mustard anymore. My data might be a bit off because I went from a 2500k to 2600k, and I still had frequent dips below <70, sometimes to ~40 on specific parts of certain maps, then to a 3600. BFV just ran a lot worse than BF1 in general. This was all on low settings.
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Cygni posted:(cant wait to have this quoted in like 7 years when everyone has 130 core ARM cpus implanted in their rear end hole) At least AMD's "performance per inch" metric will be back in style, then.
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Are you familiar with Ben Wa technology?
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Cygni posted:(cant wait to have this quoted in like 7 years when everyone has 130 core ARM cpus implanted in their rear end hole) the future of Apple Silicon
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Oct 24, 2020 00:40
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FuturePastNow posted:the future of Apple Silicone
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that'd put a new spin to saying "no ring" to goatse pictures
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kaschei posted:Are you familiar with Ben Wa technology? (Lools at current PC) Balls.
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mdxi posted:SIx months ago, when we thought Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs were about to happen I was stoked to rebuild my PC (which I mostly use for development, but it does also get used to play indie/older games on Steam). I'm feeling the same way, my current ideal is if the top end 5000 apu has performance similar to a gtx970 and i can drop a graphics card or straight zen 3 in it later on if funds allow.
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The last apu had performance worse than a 1030. I think your sights might be too high.
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shrike82 posted:that'd put a new spin to saying "no ring" to goatse pictures Intel will still be on 14nm and the goatman himself will be their last remaining customer, as he is the only man able to fit the 130 core PlugLake chip in his rear end.
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I just want better perf than a 750ti. poo poo's bus powered, from over half a decade ago. IT WAS ON 28 NANOMETER. How are we not there yet for igps?
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I received an Aorus master x570 in the mail today to replace my rickety 5-6 year old motherboard and holy poo poo. Motherboards are... a whole new thing now? I don't know what I was expecting, but my old motherboard is a piece of garbage compared to this thing. Hot drat.
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A lot of current boards are environmental disasters with way too much gimmicks and poo poo on them, not features wise but in terms of actual physical stuff. Some of those things look like toys. There's way too much of a push for radical looking hardware lately.
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Yeah you mean like the giant um... shroud thing on the IO that wraps around? One thing that was a total "thank god" moment was seeing that you don't have to attach the io plate anymore, it's just mounted in-box. Definitely one of those things where you wonder why it wasn't always like that.
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I've been burned by enough lovely I/O shields that I want my next motherboard to be one of those dealios where the whole I/O section is just a box that slots right into the back of the case.
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The best part about upgrading a motherboard in the good old days was getting everything screwed in and then realizing you didn't swap out the IO plates.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I just want better perf than a 750ti. poo poo's bus powered, from over half a decade ago. IT WAS ON 28 NANOMETER. How are we not there yet for igps? I'm not sure igp performance has much room to grow until more memory bandwidth is available via DDR5. Unless they start putting cache on the package like Iris Pro.
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Taima posted:Yeah you mean like the giant um... shroud thing on the IO that wraps around? Cojawfee posted:The best part about upgrading a motherboard in the good old days was getting everything screwed in and then realizing you didn't swap out the IO plates. I loved the feeling of slamming out the old I/O shield with the butt of a screwdriver handle after removing a mobo. Do it right and it doesn't bend or deform, just pops out into the interior of an empty case.
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Cojawfee posted:The best part about upgrading a motherboard in the good old days was getting everything screwed in and then realizing you didn't swap out the IO plates. No the best was when you realize you forgot to bend back some random tab that some rear end in a top hat put on the shield for some reason and now you have a piece of metal blocking your Ethernet port and now you start debating whether it's worth taking put the whole thing, trying to bend/break/snip the tab from outside the case, or just using a spare NIC you have laying around
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WhyteRyce posted:No the best was when you realize you forgot to bend back some random tab that some rear end in a top hat put on the shield for some reason and now you have a piece of metal blocking your Ethernet port and now you start debating whether it's worth taking put the whole thing, trying to bend/break/snip the tab from outside the case, or just using a spare NIC you have laying around one of my usb slots is like this and i dont know why those loving metal tabs exist
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Cojawfee posted:The best part about upgrading a motherboard in the good old days was getting everything screwed in and then realizing you didn't swap out the IO plates. Or realizing the plate you have is for a different motherboard and doesn't fit at all. I ended up with a couple machines whose "IO plate" ended up being judiciously-applied tape.
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Verviticus posted:one of my usb slots is like this and i dont know why those loving metal tabs exist
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I'll be interested to see how well the 5000 series hits it's stated max boost. My 3600 tops out at 3.9Ghz under load.
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Verviticus posted:one of my usb slots is like this and i dont know why those loving metal tabs exist Nobody likes them, but they're for grounding purposes I prefer the IO shields that have a foam layer and some kind of presumably conductive tape on.. They should all be made that way. 
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FuturePastNow posted:I'm not sure igp performance has much room to grow until more memory bandwidth is available via DDR5. Unless they start putting cache on the package like Iris Pro. Bring back Dual Graphics so you can Crossfire your 3400G with your 5500XT
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HalloKitty posted:Nobody likes them, but they're for grounding purposes I vastly prefer the ones that slice my fingers open when installing them 
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OhFunny posted:I'll be interested to see how well the 5000 series hits it's stated max boost. My 3600 tops out at 3.9Ghz under load. The advertised boost is only for single-core on both intel and AMD. My 3600 regularly hits 4200 briefly on a few of its cores in lightly threaded games, but only boosts to ~3900 under heavy all-core loads, just like yours.
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my 3900x hits at most about 4450mhz for a fraction of a second, generally between 4-4.2Ghz
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FuturePastNow posted:I'm not sure igp performance has much room to grow until more memory bandwidth is available via DDR5. Unless they start putting cache on the package like Iris Pro. Wonder of wonders, guess what AMD owns a patent specifically allowing for in their multi-chip design? I can't be too mad. It was finally this year that a Ryzen igp came out that had better performance than then MX150. And then Nvidia immediately turned around and came out with the MX250, but it's a start!
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Taima posted:I received an Aorus master x570 in the mail today to replace my rickety 5-6 year old motherboard and holy poo poo. Motherboards are... a whole new thing now? I don't know what I was expecting, but my old motherboard is a piece of garbage compared to this thing. Hot drat. That’s all VRM cooling for MAXIMUM OVERCLOCKING. A more “normal” x570 board is just going to have some generic looking passive heat sinks there and still have a traditional IO shield. The main PCIE 16x slots all do have weird “armor” now though.
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redeyes posted:my 3900x hits at most about 4450mhz for a fraction of a second, generally between 4-4.2Ghz Mine ended up doing about 4.1 all core on air, then swapping to water put that up to 4.3 and about 4.575 single core.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Wonder of wonders, guess what AMD owns a patent specifically allowing for in their multi-chip design? Aren't the MX150-350 all the same warmed over silicon?
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hobbesmaster posted:The main PCIE 16x slots all do have weird “armor” now though. That's because graphics cards have gotten too beefy for mere plastic x16 slots.
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ijyt posted:nForce ( I had one on my Pentium D 805...I guess 13 year old me thought I'd SLI eventually ha god that chipset loving sucked for intel
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NewFatMike posted:Aren't the MX150-350 all the same warmed over silicon? Are they all Pascal bits in various core and wattage configurations on newer processes? Yes.
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