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Feels Villeneuve posted:this is absurd lol. we had like one good year of GTs and Sir Dave decided that was enough Tour was good, Giro was good as we only had sky murder train for one day Carthy 
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Oct 25, 2020 16:51
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Carthy the only good anglo, his win at the 2019 TdS was badass Loving Africa Chaps posted:Tour was good, Giro was good as we only had sky murder train for one day there's this Brailsford interview at the Tour where he's like "it seems like the other teams have caught up" and you can tell that's when the big "horse blood = on" switch flips in his head lol
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Oct 25, 2020 16:51
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Wow Carapaz gets beefy when he pulls on the red
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Oct 25, 2020 16:55
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serious gaylord posted:They'd be too worried about controlling flat and crosswind stages to take a team of climbers and rely on Thomas to do all the pulling in the wind. Ganna and Dennis are 100% going to the tour for sure. Isn't Ganna going to do the Olympics?
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Oct 25, 2020 17:17
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Funny how we were talking befoe the tour about where the good young British riders were and since then we've had: - Pidcock - Knox - Hart - Carthy All have huge performances.
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Oct 25, 2020 17:19
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Carthy was really good before this year, I think he had some health/injury problems early this year that prevented him from showing off at the TDF. I remember before he withdrew he was putting death turns at the early stages of the 2019 Vuelta that completely shredded the peloton. Hart is "out of nowhere" but at the same time, Ineos suddenly turning their number 6 climbing domestique into a GT winner is kind of on-brand for them, vis the 2011 Vuelta.
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Oct 25, 2020 17:22
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How many laptops have died in the process of “developing” these riders?
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Oct 25, 2020 17:32
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right before his handlebar fell off?
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Oct 25, 2020 17:34
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Xabi posted:How many laptops have died in the process of “developing” these riders? You simply must take a hammer to a MacBook Air and suddenly your GC rider who, as a protected rider, finished half an hour behind Herman Pernsteiner at his last Grand Tour is literally winning the Giro. e) didn't see the whole Vuelta stage but just saw how badly Ineos shredded Jumbo's team. Someone is *really* mad that the Dutch had the temerity to try the whole "superteam" thing. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 25, 2020 |
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Oct 25, 2020 17:38
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Withnail posted:right before his handlebar fell off?
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Hart is "out of nowhere" I'm not convinced he's going to be a team leader going forward - if Yates hadn't died from covid and Thomas hadn't died from riding in the middle of the pack they'd have been streets ahead of guys like Hindley and Kelderman
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Oct 25, 2020 18:09
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Also if Sunweb leadership hadn't hosed up the Stelvio stage and had Hindley wait, Kelderman would have won this.
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Oct 25, 2020 18:49
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Rojkir posted:Also if Sunweb leadership hadn't hosed up the Stelvio stage and had Hindley wait, Kelderman would have won this. Lol, no. Kelderman didn't have the legs. It would just have scuppered Hindley's chances.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:11
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Rojkir posted:Also if Sunweb leadership hadn't hosed up the Stelvio stage and had Hindley wait, Kelderman would have won this. I seriously doubt that matters given the strength of Ineos's domestiques at the end and Kelderman's legs being unable to get over three difficult but not awful climbs on stage 20 without getting unhitched.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:12
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Rojkir posted:Also if Sunweb leadership hadn't hosed up the Stelvio stage and had Hindley wait, Kelderman would have won this. Eh, maybe. TGH would likely have gone up the last climb on stage 18 faster without Hindley sitting on his wheel. It’s easy to say with hindsight, but Sunweb had to make the call when Wilco dropped with 50km and a shedloads of climbing left in the stage - at that point it was more likely he was gonna lose 10 minutes by the end. Even if they had stuck with him, it would still be a case of hoping a guy that shipped 4 minutes in the final two mountain stages could scrape over the line.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:18
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really the tactical mistake is "don't enter a grand tour with Wilco Kelderman as your GC rider"
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He lost most of his time in both stages on the flatter parts, alone against the Rohan. Having Hindley with him would probably saved the 1:30 needed to win this Giro. e; When Tom Dumoulin won the Giro he wasn't the fastest climber by a long stretch. It's possible to win the overall without the W/kg when needed. e2; I'm know I'm captain hindsight, but I yelled it at my girlfriend when the Stelvio was happening so we have at least one witness ;-) Rojkir fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Oct 25, 2020 |
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Oct 25, 2020 19:38
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Highly dubious about the idea that sitting behind Jai Hindley on a flat road he’d have made back 1m30 vs Rohan Dennis.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:42
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Hindley and Klederman limiting limiting the loses by 1.5mins to Dennis is pretty optimistic to begin with. Factor in that it would have allowed Geoghegan Hart license to go full beans on the final climb without Hindley on his wheel. I suppose they could have helped each other with their jackets. HappyCamperGL fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Oct 25, 2020 |
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Oct 25, 2020 20:04
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Rojkir posted:Also if Sunweb leadership hadn't hosed up the Stelvio stage and had Hindley wait, Kelderman would have won this. Kelderman shipped a bunch of time in the next climbing stage, so no?
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Oct 25, 2020 20:09
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Feels Villeneuve posted:really the tactical mistake is "don't enter a grand tour with Wilco Kelderman as your GC rider"
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Oct 25, 2020 20:14
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I don't know if Tao could have gone faster. When Hindley did him at the end he looked spent.
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Oct 25, 2020 22:27
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rain-jacket-mistake-ends-roglics-lead-in-vuelta-a-espana/ Learn to put on loving jackets you idiots.
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Oct 25, 2020 23:32
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goatface posted:I don't know if Tao could have gone faster. When Hindley did him at the end he looked spent. Just being able to tempo up on your own is a lot easier than worrying about the other guy, you gain a lot by not having to save anything for an attack serious gaylord posted:https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rain-jacket-mistake-ends-roglics-lead-in-vuelta-a-espana/ The obsession with aero rain jackets is silly
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Oct 25, 2020 23:33
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bianchi revealed the climbing/lightweight frame that presumably GreenEdge will be using next year, and it's carbon black with "stealth" black decals instead of celeste. i am going to turn into the joker
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Oct 26, 2020 19:39
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/26/freeman-denies-trying-to-remove-laptop-as-tribunal-takes-bizarre-turn Freeman trial is potentially going to get very interesting. They're about to discuss the testosterone levels of a tour de France winner that doubled and then went down again.
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Oct 26, 2020 19:52
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/26/freeman-denies-trying-to-remove-laptop-as-tribunal-takes-bizarre-turn Has he remembered his password to the folder called 'Bradleys secret program police don't look'
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Oct 26, 2020 20:28
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/26/freeman-denies-trying-to-remove-laptop-as-tribunal-takes-bizarre-turn It doesn't say it's a TdF winner that got the testosterone
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Oct 26, 2020 20:30
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Feels Villeneuve posted:bianchi revealed the climbing/lightweight frame that presumably GreenEdge will be using next year, and it's carbon black with "stealth" black decals instead of celeste. i am going to turn into the joker Jumbo used these this year didn’t they? Something about not having the layer of pigmented paint saves a couple dozen grams. The most marginal of gains
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Oct 26, 2020 20:54
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colonel tom posted:Jumbo used these this year didn’t they? Something about not having the layer of pigmented paint saves a couple dozen grams. The most marginal of gains A celeste bike probably weighs 100-120g more than one that just has a UV clearcoat.
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Oct 26, 2020 21:42
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Celeste climbs faster because it is infused with the spirit of Fausto Coppi and Marco Pantani
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Oct 26, 2020 21:56
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/26/freeman-denies-trying-to-remove-laptop-as-tribunal-takes-bizarre-turn Ah, the old "you can't blame me for this, I'm clearly insane!" play.
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Oct 26, 2020 22:12
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Today's parcours for the Vuelta look like what happens when I bother recording data for a 20 minute ride to a grocery store and back.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:18
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Oct 27, 2020 14:53
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It's going to get crushed by a train, but it could be magical.
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Oct 27, 2020 15:04
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Sepp looks like he’s out for a recovery ride while the other guy is rocking around like crazy
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