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EbolaIvory posted:Steam Lol I have been ragged on in this thread multiple times for “defending” Facebook because I honestly don’t think the merge is that big of a deal, and I wouldn’t really care that much about linking my FB account to my rift (I haven’t done it cause why would I if I don’t have to) But now I guess I am raging against Facebook because I think them not offering even the most basic level of security when it comes to purchases is extremely off putting. If you think Steam, windows, PSN etc. having a TOS is even remotely comparable to Facebook randomly banning accounts and deleting purchases, you are wrong. I’d challenge you to dig up reports of peoples poo poo being randomly being deleted with no recourse over the last decade, across all of those services combined, in numbers that even come close to what we have seen in just a few weeks with the Quest 2. With any of those services your purchases are relatively secure and if you lose them it’s likely due to some extreme example. I even gave FB the benefit of the doubt in that it think these bans were in error and they are trying to fix it. But nothing about how this has been handled is “normal” or comparable to existing services.
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Oct 27, 2020 00:25
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GutBomb posted:I made some breakthroughs with Oculus Link this morning that give me enough clarity to use x-plane and get ASW so it’s smooth. What gpu/cpu are you running? I tried it for the first time and it was a blurry mess, so I need to start tweaking. I haven't done much with the quest 2 and link yet to see how it goes on my system. Will give your settings a try as a starting point. I appreciate the info!
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Oct 27, 2020 00:50
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EbolaIvory posted:They all have a ToS. They all can be broken. You can lose your accounts from those services. You can also close said accounts and lose access. Yes, Some of them are going to require extreme examples, but also lets remember the "closing account" part. Console Hardware ID bans? Remember that poo poo? I can go on forever tbh. How many of those services remove your access to whatever you've purchased if you're banned? Hardware bans usually remove the ability to play online, but don't restrict your ability to purchase things from the online storefront and accessing any of your titles. Also how many of those services are tied to a social media platform that can ban you for a plethora of reasons via AI bots?
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Oct 27, 2020 01:46
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AzureSkys posted:What gpu/cpu are you running? I tried it for the first time and it was a blurry mess, so I need to start tweaking. I haven't done much with the quest 2 and link yet to see how it goes on my system. Will give your settings a try as a starting point. I appreciate the info! 9900k/2080(non-super, non-ti)
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Oct 27, 2020 02:22
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D1E posted:Hey Subjunctive: I know you and Zuck are boys and all that but can you maybe tell him to pull his head out of his rear end regarding this whole Oculus/Facebook thing and let people actually you know... keep the games and apps they purchase? If pressed, I’m sure he knows my thoughts on the matter. I think banning from the online services is fine, though, if people are abusive. Don’t gently caress around, don’t find out.
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Oct 27, 2020 03:00
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veni veni veni posted:This is really not the same thing, because getting banned from twitter and losing the ability to tweet is not linked to a bunch of digital purchases, likely amounting to hundreds or even thousands of dollars. Like afaik if you get banned from PSN or Steam or whatever, there's nothing stopping you from using your purchases but you just can't play online, and to top it off if you get banned from any of those services it's likely because you hosed up, and were warned multiple times. Not a coin flip. You absolutely lose access to play your steam/PSN games if you get banned. Those services have different level of bans though, like community/VAC banning which still give you access to games. But I knew someone who got his account banned from Steam for unknown reasons. It took a while to get it back but while it was banned he couldn't play ANYTHING that required the platform. Apparently, same with PSN: https://www.quora.com/What-happens-to-my-games-when-I-get-banned-on-PS4 FB needs to better cook this ecosystem for sure, but every platform has a method to lock you out of your games if you get banned.
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Oct 27, 2020 03:19
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Lockback posted:You absolutely lose access to play your steam/PSN games if you get banned. Those services have different level of bans though, like community/VAC banning which still give you access to games. But I knew someone who got his account banned from Steam for unknown reasons. It took a while to get it back but while it was banned he couldn't play ANYTHING that required the platform. Still not the same thing though; Those measures aren't the default method of punishment, they're for extreme cases. Facebook just goes from zero to  because they merely Oculus purchase licenses onto the Facebook account, and there are no minor punishments for dealing with a dodgy Facebook account.Google's got this problem as well, because you can get banned for a Youtube comment and lose your whole Google account. Which can be pretty loving destructive to your entire life if G-Mail's your primary email account.
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Oct 27, 2020 03:28
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Neddy Seagoon posted:there are no minor punishments for dealing with a dodgy Facebook account. there are things that can be done to an FB account other than permanent banning
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Oct 27, 2020 03:39
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EbolaIvory posted:
Can you give some examples? Maybe people want to know about these powerful pew pew games. I am being serious. Just saying "budget games" is a pointless statement, unless that is the name of the game. It's all subjective though, just like everything else immersion related in vr. It's different from one person to another. The guns in Alyx mainly get their power from the low end, but something like boneworks mainly gets it's power from the gainy mids. It just depends on the person's audio perception which one conveys more power. For me personally, the lower frequency and the knockback of the shotgun in Alyx feels more powerful. Doom 3, on the other hand, feels like toy guns to everyone.
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Oct 27, 2020 06:25
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Happyimp posted:Can you give some examples? Maybe people want to know about these powerful pew pew games. I am being serious. Just saying "budget games" is a pointless statement, unless that is the name of the game. Then I'm sorry.
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Oct 27, 2020 06:26
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I tried out enabling the 90hz on SideQuest and wow, it really makes a huge difference in comfort. Echo VR went from a very queasy experience to being just perfect. 5 minutes in there at 72 hz made me want to puke, but I just played matches for an hour with no trouble. I was also surprised at how noticeable the difference was perceptually, the world felt more solid and everything felt more responsive. I think it might be a little unstable at 90hz though. After we left the game we were still chatting in an Oculus party and at some point my microphone stopped working. Then I rebooted and it totally lost tracking. Then I rebooted again, and when my friend invited me it made me go through the Facebook account process I've already done, and then it didn't join the party. The official 90hz patch can't come soon enough.
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Oct 27, 2020 07:14
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https://twitter.com/ieytd/status/1320772437181681673 I Expect You to Die sequel incoming?
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Oct 27, 2020 08:41
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I liked the guns in Alyx and would also like to know which games are better - not as a snipe in any way, just genuinely want to see what’s even better as I’m quite new to VR.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:02
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Jakabite posted:I liked the guns in Alyx and would also like to know which games are better - not as a snipe in any way, just genuinely want to see what’s even better as I’m quite new to VR. Boneworks is a good place to start, but the real definitive answer is gonna be Hotdogs Horseshoes and Handgrenades as it's a semi-realistic firearm simulator with literally hundreds of guns to play with. edit: Sairento is good as well if you want to dash about as a cyberpunk ninja with guns. The melee combat's so-so (just waggle the blade at something), but the shooting is gratuitously meaty.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:05
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Wicked, thanks. Can’t wait to get a decent pc to use my Quest with - Boneworks was one of those games that genuinely made me go ‘wow’.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:19
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Skybox isn't working for me anymore, it used to be fine but now when I try to connect it just says 'Network Error'. Have restarted everything, removed files and re-added. Anybody have any ideas?
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Oct 27, 2020 14:23
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Jakabite posted:I liked the guns in Alyx and would also like to know which games are better - not as a snipe in any way, just genuinely want to see what’s even better as I’m quite new to VR. If you want hundreds of realistic weapons (and a few unrealistic ones) with complex behavior and interaction, and some clunkiness because that complexity, you should check H3VR.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:24
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Turin Turambar posted:If you want hundreds of realistic weapons (and a few unrealistic ones) with complex behavior and interaction, and some clunkiness because that complexity, you should check H3VR. I always thought H3VR stood for Halflife 3:VR as a shorthand. I feel dumber now because I just realized what it actually is.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:33
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Nocheez posted:I always thought H3VR stood for Halflife 3:VR as a shorthand. I feel dumber now because I just realized what it actually is. In my 'pre-VR, but following VR news' days I actually though the same, so you aren't alone!
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Oct 27, 2020 14:38
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Tip posted:I tried out enabling the 90hz on SideQuest and wow, it really makes a huge difference in comfort. I had mic problems once on my Quest2 as well, I am not sure that is a 90hz thing. I believe the Oculus software is still a little clunky on the Q2. Even with my OG Rift I had to fight it every so often, it's kind of crappy compared to SteamVR imo. But totally agree on the 90Hz. Maybe I am just used to it or what, but there's a huge difference between 72 and 90. I guess it's a 25% uplift, which isn't nothing, but it feels like a lot more. Jakabite posted:I liked the guns in Alyx and would also like to know which games are better - not as a snipe in any way, just genuinely want to see what’s even better as I’m quite new to VR. H3VR guns are amazing, and there are lots of different modes to play with. It has a reputation for just being a shooting range but that is only a small part of it. Honestly, for people playing with PCVR I cannot recommend Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades enough.
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The one caveat to H3VR is that in its current state it is not very user-friendly. The dev plans to implement a streamlined control scheme and a proper tutorial before the end of the year, though.
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Oct 27, 2020 15:31
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Unfortunately I’m on Quest at the moment but aiming for a new pc soon! Cheers for the tip, looks fun. I also thought it meant Half Life 3 but then realised I’d obviously have heard about Half Life 3 being released so was quite confused. Best games for kids on Quest? Specifically a 9 year old who doesn’t like scary poo poo but really enjoyed First Steps and the Space Pirate Trainer demo. I’d throw her in Rec Room but honestly I have zero desire to let her interact with the online Quest community as it appears so far to be loving terrible. I’ve been looking at Moss. Any other suggestions?
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Oct 27, 2020 16:12
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Lockback posted:H3VR guns are amazing, and there are lots of different modes to play with. It has a reputation for just being a shooting range but that is only a small part of it. Agreed. I keep coming back to it because popping sausage heads with the various rifles and shotguns is incredible. I initially kind of bounced off of it due to the complete lack of instructions or tutorials in the game, but once it clicks it's really satisfying. I would just watch a Take and Hold playthrough or video tutorial or something so that you understand what's actually going on. When I first played that mode I didn't notice the radar, which meant I just wondered the hallways until I found some Sosigs which took a long time (map is kind of big). I also didn't understand how to spawn lock ammo, pick up multiple shells in a single hand, etc. I'm really excited for the new control scheme too, since currently it's largely designed for the Vive wand's trackpad. With the Index's smaller pad, it's hard to do some things with any reliability (like open any break actions), especially with my larger hands.
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Jakabite posted:Unfortunately I’m on Quest at the moment but aiming for a new pc soon! Cheers for the tip, looks fun. I also thought it meant Half Life 3 but then realised I’d obviously have heard about Half Life 3 being released so was quite confused. If you like the idea of playing with guns, and you only have a quest, you should check out 'Gun Club VR'. Its no H3VR in its weapon selection and fidelity, but might scratch that itch for you in a quest form. As far as kid game just on the quest, should look into vacation/job sim. Kids really love that one since its basically a sandbox with funny interactions. I had to drag my nephew away from job sim. You could also look into "Acron: attack of the squirrels" its a multiplayer game where one person is in the quest defending a tree, and the other players play on their phones as the squirrels trying to steal the nuts. Its a cute and family friendly game, and the family could play it together since the rest of the players just need phones. Robo recall is also a tongue in cheek shoot 'em up game. There is shooting obviously, but the robots are very comical as they get torn apart so i think its probably a pretty kid friendly game.
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Jakabite posted:Unfortunately I’m on Quest at the moment but aiming for a new pc soon! Cheers for the tip, looks fun. I also thought it meant Half Life 3 but then realised I’d obviously have heard about Half Life 3 being released so was quite confused. Shadowpoint, "Don't Touch Anything"(which is maybe a bit scary? But in a funny way), Pistol Whip if you don't mind violence in the very arcadey/abstract way, obviously Beat Saber. Brownie posted:
Yeah, I'd love to play Cowgirl Calico but using the single action is basically impossible with the touch controllers.
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My 5600x is okay for VR on the Quest 1, but could be better. And I'm conscious that if I want to upgrade to the higher-res Quest 2, I'll need better performance. So I'm eyeing up the RTX 3070. Is that gonna be enough for the Quest 2's screen, or would I need to hold out for 3080's to come back in stock?
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Oct 27, 2020 18:18
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The Grumbles posted:My 5600x is okay for VR on the Quest 1, but could be better. And I'm conscious that if I want to upgrade to the higher-res Quest 2, I'll need better performance. So I'm eyeing up the RTX 3070. Is that gonna be enough for the Quest 2's screen, or would I need to hold out for 3080's to come back in stock? I'm using a 2080S and have no intent to upgrade this gen for my Quest 2. Sorta depends on what you want to play but the vast majority of games probably won't even push a 3070 all that hard. In general it's not a great idea to try to future proof, better to save the money and upgrade sooner. It all depends though. I also think the 3070s are also going to be hard to get.
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The Grumbles posted:My 5600x is okay for VR on the Quest 1, but could be better. And I'm conscious that if I want to upgrade to the higher-res Quest 2, I'll need better performance. So I'm eyeing up the RTX 3070. Is that gonna be enough for the Quest 2's screen, or would I need to hold out for 3080's to come back in stock? Significantly more than enough. The 3070 is more powerful than the 20 series' high-end cards. Good luck getting one!
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Oct 27, 2020 18:27
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man i did some light googling on the decagear and you'd need some serious optimism to think that it's going anywhere very new company, less than 10 employees, many have not been with the company for long or don't have a whole lot of experience to believe that they could pull this off in such a short time, well, and for so little money is pretty nuts. i do hope they pull it off though, because if it's any good i'll want one
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Oct 27, 2020 18:42
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Scurvy Goonette posted:Significantly more than enough. The 3070 is more powerful than the 20 series' high-end cards. Good luck getting one! Lockback posted:I'm using a 2080S and have no intent to upgrade this gen for my Quest 2. Sorta depends on what you want to play but the vast majority of games probably won't even push a 3070 all that hard. In general it's not a great idea to try to future proof, better to save the money and upgrade sooner. Thanks both. Part of me wants to wait for ATI's offering, but part of me feels like VR is always better on NVidia. I'm working from home so I'll see if I get lucky on Thurs.
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Inacio posted:man i did some light googling on the decagear and you'd need some serious optimism to think that it's going anywhere Just enough employees to define what an ideal headset would be and make some renders, several orders of magnitude too small to actually nail it lol I'm guessing success for them looks more like an acquisition than a product launch.
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If feasible for your schedule, try refreshing Zotac's website between midnight and 12:30AM Pacific, as they've done several inventory drops at that time. That's how I got mine; not as many scalpers/fellow shitlord gamers with disposable income around at that time.
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Nocheez posted:I always thought H3VR stood for Halflife 3:VR as a shorthand. I feel dumber now because I just realized what it actually is. Its the special H3H3 podcast VR game! Neddy Seagoon posted:Boneworks is a good place to start, but the real definitive answer is gonna be Hotdogs Horseshoes and Handgrenades as it's a semi-realistic firearm simulator with literally hundreds of guns to play with. I love H3 but its not remotely comparable to Alyx. Take and Hold just... is barely a game mode. H3VR is a gun range simulator, and that's cool but different. Boneworks is a better comparison but shooting the guys in Boneworks isn't as fun for me as Alyx and the platforming feels janky. Very interesting game but its definitely an indie game trying to push the envelope and that means jank.
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Jakabite posted:Best games for kids on Quest? Specifically a 9 year old who doesn’t like scary poo poo but really enjoyed First Steps and the Space Pirate Trainer demo. I’d throw her in Rec Room but honestly I have zero desire to let her interact with the online Quest community as it appears so far to be loving terrible. I’ve been looking at Moss. Any other suggestions? Beat Saber of course Tom Guycot posted:As far as kid game just on the quest, should look into vacation/job sim. Kids really love that one since its basically a sandbox with funny interactions. I had to drag my nephew away from job sim. I think this thread thinks its kinda lame but yeah 100% agree that Vacation/Job Sim is a good VR game for newbies, especially children. Comfortable and intuitive VR gameplay.
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Oct 27, 2020 19:40
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Oct 27, 2020 19:46
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Zaphod42 posted:
Return of Rottenweiners is a full fledged VR rogue-lite, The Xmas Globe has like 6 mini-games that are all pretty solid (especially king of the grill), Take and Hold has like 8 different characters which change gameplay, inventory, and enemy type (including a zombie mode with multiple sides). Saying H3VR is a "Gun Range Simulator" basically means you haven't played it.
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Lockback posted:Return of Rottenweiners is a full fledged VR rogue-lite, The Xmas Globe has like 6 mini-games that are all pretty solid (especially king of the grill), Take and Hold has like 8 different characters which change gameplay, inventory, and enemy type (including a zombie mode with multiple sides). Saying H3VR is a "Gun Range Simulator" basically means you haven't played it. In their defence, I haven’t tried many of the different modes because I have no idea which ones are actual “game modes”, how they work, how old they are etc. But maybe I’m just being lazy. Also I personally could not get into Rottweiners at all. I don’t like moving through the world very much and my god there’s a lot of open space on that map. EDIT: But I also love Take and Hold, and think calling it "barely a game mode" is dumb. If you don't think it's fun or think it's shallow that's one thing, but it's definitely a game mode. Brownie fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Its the special H3H3 podcast VR game! I wonder why I've had so much less fun with Alyx than most people? I loved Boneworks and beat it almost immediately, but I can't even make myself finish Alyx. I want to like it, I just... keep sliding off its polish, instead of being able to have fun climbing around the rough edges of H3VR, Jet Island, Saints and Sinners, or the other VR games I've really liked.
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