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Sakurazuka posted:No such thing as KH side games the main games are the numbered ones. chain of memories wasn't kh2 for a reason like yea everything advances the plot but you can't tell me that it's not understandable people don't look at a gba card game or this new rhythm one and think "I need to play that to understand the plot"
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Chain of Memories was understandable because it was the first sequel title and confused people. At this point there’s no excuse. They have actively previewed and emphasized Kairi’s story happening in MoM and how it relates to KHIII.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:The PSP was a *really* popular handheld in Japan, much more popular than the PS3 at the time. Plus, y'know, cheaper to develop for, especially at a time where everyone was struggling with HD. Probably for the best, if it was released on PS3 it would probably have ended up as one of the many PS3-exclusives that can't be rereleased on any other console because Cell Processor(tm).
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Kingdom Hearts COM ended with what seemed to be a pretty comfortable reset button so it could both happen and not happen and then it turned out to be insanely important despite that.
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ImpAtom posted:Kingdom Hearts COM ended with what seemed to be a pretty comfortable reset button so it could both happen and not happen and then it turned out to be insanely important despite that. You love to see it. Anyway Coded was a KH game that didn't seem matter at all and while I don't think that's going to be the case with MoM I doubt the story will be as big a deal as like BBS or even 3D. Considering the framing is supposed to be Kairi jumping into Sora's memories or whatever to figure out what's going on with him it will probably have some important setup for KH4 though.
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Even if most of the games, or a movie version of them, wasn't available on one console it still wouldn't be an excuse. YouTube exists and there's thousands of playthroughs of each game, including KHUX, so literally zero excuse for anyone with an internet connection to be unable to catch up to the story.
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TheLoneStar posted:Even if most of the games, or a movie version of them, wasn't available on one console it still wouldn't be an excuse. YouTube exists and there's thousands of playthroughs of each game, including KHUX, so literally zero excuse for anyone with an internet connection to be unable to catch up to the story. Hell, or just read a Wikipedia article or something (also both DDD and KH3 has some optional in-game recaps but they’re not that great from what I remember). Point is, it’s really easy to get yourself caught up on the story even if you don’t play the non numbered games. As mentioned, there really is no excuse at this point Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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I feel like most of the sequels I've played outside of KH have had "Previousy On..." catch-ups or went out of their way to make the story first-time friendly. KH doesn't really do either, but does do entire games of "Previously On and also New Stuff." But it's fun to say stuff like "you need to play eight other games to understand Kingdom Hearts 3," so I probably won't ever stop.
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Most of those 'previously on' segments only make sense if you've already played the game and need a reminder or are for games that don't have such a strong continuous story. In fact it's incredibly rare for games other than KH to do that, the only other things I can think of are the Trails of games and those are more like multiple stories in the same world with recurring characters even if the stories sometimes end up being four games long lol. And I guess Soul Reaver back in the day?
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Team nobody cares from Dreemu Dropu Disutansu https://twitter.com/kingdomhearts/status/1320727129869279236?s=21
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Team nobody cares from Dreemu Dropu Disutansu Wrong the Dream are my friends and cool
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I am shocked those guys are still arround and I *don't know why*
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If you don't think playable Meow Wow is funny and good then I pity you heavily.
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Dream Eaters are important to the plot.
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The best part of DDD is when Leonard Nimoy takes like twenty minutes to explain the entire plot of the Kingdom Hearts series
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The best part is when I am within four feet of Ansem and blow him to high hell with balloons. YOUR CUM GUARDIAN CAN'T STOP THE POP
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:The best part of DDD is when Leonard Nimoy takes like twenty minutes to explain the entire plot of the Kingdom Hearts series The real best part is that Xigbar did the exact same thing not fifteen minutes before that.
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MorningMoon posted:The best part is when I am within four feet of Ansem and blow him to high hell with balloons. YOUR CUM GUARDIAN CAN'T STOP THE POP I know the mainlines have to be very boring with spells but god I really wish they kept the character flavor DDD game sora and Riku when it came to what magic they were good at.
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Funky Valentine posted:The real best part is that Xigbar did the exact same thing not fifteen minutes before that. A plot so nice they explained it twice But seriously if they hadn’t explained it twice we probably would have been even more confused.
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I played KH 1 > COM > KH 2 then started to lose track, I don't think that's unfair at all. I played BBS and loved it on PSP and had 0 trouble following it, I heard the DS games were kinda pointless and skipped them, and I just never got around to DDD which really confused me by the time KH3 was out. That said I honestly did not like KH3 very much, I felt like BBS was a much much better game in pretty much every aspect. They took all the interesting spell fusion/different character fighting styles and just kinda threw it out the window for some reason. BBS also felt like it had a much tighter story since it was sorta self contained as a prequel (MGS3 syndrome) I actually dunno if the music game is made for me  But I'm guessing the soundtracks of the DS/3DS games will not be as heavily featured? I played the demo and I remembered how much I actually like both Theatrythm and Yoko Shimomura.
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Well even if they every game has an equal amount of songs that's still the majority of tracks you'll be familiar with if you've only missed Days and 3D. And speaking as someone who played theatrythym without having played all the games it drew from all that means is you'll be introduced to some cool new tracks you haven't heard before.
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Yeah, I’m familiar with like, the first twelve Final Fantasies and Tactics, but that’s like seven or eight full games of banging tracks I never played and it was a cool surprise to experience them, plus I guess the NES/Famicom versions of 1-3 since I only know their remade tracks (tbh both should have been put in the game, at least for 1/2 but I digress). Going in mostly blind on the series’ iconic tracks is probably a plus.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I played KH 1 > COM > KH 2 then started to lose track, I don't think that's unfair at all. I played BBS and loved it on PSP and had 0 trouble following it, I heard the DS games were kinda pointless and skipped them, and I just never got around to DDD which really confused me by the time KH3 was out. The basic philosophy of the series was that the numbered titles used a similar combat system which evolved over time, whereas they tended to try out different things in the non-numbered titles hence the card system in Chain of Memories, the panel/gear system in 358/2 Days, the Dream Eaters in DDD and the command system in BBS. That system is still present in Re:coded which I thought was pretty fun to play although kind of repetitive.
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Re:Coded had some neat gameplay ideas, but the inside-the-code areas all looked the same and that got old real quick, and the majority of the gameplay is in those areas. They do some gimmicks to switch things up a bit with different bosses but I was sick to the teeth of the debug areas by the halfway mark.
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I did sort of like how Coded had different gameplay styles for different levels (though they only did it three times) and it brought back the ability to meld commands from BBS (or vice versa, I forget if the original mobile game came before or after BBS). In fact, I sort of wish it had gotten the Final Mix treatment as opposed to just being remade as a movie. Same goes for 358 actually as the movie version cuts out a lot of stuff (like the Disney worlds and the fight with Saix just prior to Roxas leaving the Organization).
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Coded has by far the most fun and polished implementation of the Command Deck system which is pretty lol
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Larryb posted:In fact, I sort of wish it had gotten the Final Mix treatment as opposed to just being remade as a movie. Same goes for 358 actually as the movie version cuts out a lot of stuff (like the Disney worlds and the fight with Saix just prior to Roxas leaving the Organization). Would be entirely worth it to get "Roxas, that's a stick" and "Why do you look at me like I just killed your goldfish?" voice acted.
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Funky Valentine posted:Days remake would probably be a tall order because it has very very different systems and combat from the rest of the series. Yeah, you’d probably have to overhaul the gameplay a bit to make it work but honestly a lot of the best moments in the game are in the scenes the movie cut out (for example, the part where Roxas fights Xion in Halloween Town after being tricked into thinking she’s a Heartless really should have been a full cutscene as opposed to a still frame with narration). At the very least they could potentially release the DS games digitally or something as right now the only way to play them is to either track down a cartridge or resort to emulation. Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I played KH 1 > COM > KH 2 then started to lose track, I don't think that's unfair at all. I played BBS and loved it on PSP and had 0 trouble following it, I heard the DS games were kinda pointless and skipped them, and I just never got around to DDD which really confused me by the time KH3 was out. That was everyone's mistake. Every single game in KH is canon lmao
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358 turned out to be pretty important to KH3 but as far as I remember the only important parts of Coded are the secret ending and a scene added to the movie version about Maleficent and Pete searching for the Book of Prophecies (both of which I believe are restated in DDD).
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Re:coded is already a “Final Mix” of coded, a Japan-only mobile game. That’s why the areas are rather repetitive and there are kind of silly gimmick areas for the bosses of each world. The RPG part of Olympus wasn’t bad, but like the side scroller in Traverse Town was bad and I remember hating the Space Harrier boss part in Wonderland. I don’t even remember what the other bosses were lol Edit: In DDD they wanted Jiminy’s Journal because reasons. I always forget like five seconds after finishing Re:coded what the big secret hidden in the journal was.
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Larryb posted:358 turned out to be pretty important to KH3 but as far as I remember the only important parts of Coded are the secret ending and a scene added to the movie version about Maleficent and Pete searching for the Book of Prophecies (both of which I believe are restated in DDD). My favorite moment in KH3 comes out of characters developed in Days, but at least I didn't have to play it to get there. Between BB's LP and the 1.5 movie I was all prepped.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Re:coded is already a “Final Mix” of coded, a Japan-only mobile game. That’s why the areas are rather repetitive and there are kind of silly gimmick areas for the bosses of each world. The RPG part of Olympus wasn’t bad, but like the side scroller in Traverse Town was bad and I remember hating the Space Harrier boss part in Wonderland. I don’t even remember what the other bosses were lol Those are the only three gimmick bosses as far as I remember (though there is another side scrolling section later where you fight Maleficent), everything else was normal KH style combat.
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Coded is honestly a really interesting character study on Sora, in my opinion. In a complete vacuum, devoid of knowledge, context, and experience, what would a fresh-off-the-island Sora do if people he didn't know were in peril and he was able to help, even if it was dangerous? The answer, though perhaps somewhat simple and obvious to most, is that he'd do the right goddamn thing. No hesitation shown, no Riku or Kairi in danger to spur him into action, just a weird little mouse dude going "Hey, my friends are in trouble, can you help me?" and Sora's right on the case.
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Don't read the rest of the twitter thread if you care about spoilers since it's someone datamining the demo https://twitter.com/orcastraw/status/1320981945501843456
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I'm permabanned KH Player RobitussanDrinker98
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Fojar38 posted:I'm permabanned KH Player RobitussanDrinker98
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Fojar38 posted:I'm permabanned KH Player RobitussanDrinker98
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I’m HitlersHonkers Edit: I’m laughing so hard I’m choking, help Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Oct 28, 2020 |
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It's too bad this is another one of those character memory-based games because a Kingdom Hearts rhythm game would be an ideal point to do a Drakengard world.
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