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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Yeah if Georgia is within ratfuck range, it will be stolen. I have almost no doubts of this. R+1 or 2 final result probably means Biden won it.

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Since I'm having mild brain farts this evening can someone remind me again why Penn appears safer than NC or TX? Because of expected high Dem turnout on election day?

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Murgos posted:

My prediction based off this information is Trump gets his big election stealing machine moving, the case makes its tortuous way to SCOTUS who rules 5/4 to say gently caress the law and hands the Georgia slate to Trump. Meanwhile as this drama unfolds the other states finish their counts and register 370 EV votes for Biden.

Trump gets to be evil. SCOTUS gets to be evil. But the whole thing is incompetent just like everything else trump does.

Do you realize how long that'd take? In your scenario the election would be an obvious Biden win before the SCOTUS even sniffed it.

Doesn't mean it couldn't get stolen in other ways, mind.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Lemming posted:



what's funny about the original is nobody understands it either

Larson said it was just a dumb joke that cows would make lovely tools.

Nieuw Amsterdam
Dec 1, 2006

Dignité. Toujours, dignité.

Killer robot posted:

Being from the rust belt I have to imagine a lot of that red shift is caused by old racist union dems who have been told for years how Trump finally saved them from NAFTA, while the south is where rust belt manufacturing jobs actually moved in the 1990s so it has less traction there.

It’s like the West Virginia vs Virginia shift. As Democrats increasingly become the party of educated professionals, they are winning growing sun belt states and losing ground in the industrial Midwest as old white blue collar guys switch permanently Republican.

But WV has 5 electors and VA has 13.

And states like Michigan and Ohio are losing population, while Georgia and North Carolina are growing.

In 1980, Michigan had 21 EV and Georgia had 12.

In 2020, they both have 16

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Grouchio posted:

Since I'm having mild brain farts this evening can someone remind me again why Penn appears safer than NC or TX? Because of expected high Dem turnout on election day?

number higher https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/pennsylvania/

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Grouchio posted:

Since I'm having mild brain farts this evening can someone remind me again why Penn appears safer than NC or TX? Because of expected high Dem turnout on election day?
While PA appears to have been somewhat more trumpy than the other Midwestern states Clinton lost, this is the difference between Biden +7 and Biden +5. I believe NC is much narrower than that, while TX is in fact on the knife's edge.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/1321225949061533696

his rallies arnt helping him at all. hell, they are making poo poo worse.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Do you realize how long that'd take? In your scenario the election would be an obvious Biden win before the SCOTUS even sniffed it.

Doesn't mean it couldn't get stolen in other ways, mind.

It was a dumb joke about Trumps evil being incompetent. Trump having lost before the verdict was announced was the joke.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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So Rasmussen/Trafalgar/Hannity are making GBS threads up the Florida poll averages yeah?

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Murgos posted:

It was a dumb joke about Trumps evil being incompetent. Trump having lost before the verdict was announced was the joke.

Sorry friend, USPOL/D&D exposure has broken my brain

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/1321225949061533696

his rallies arnt helping him at all. hell, they are making poo poo worse.

People don’t like the traveling COVID circus.

Centurium
Aug 17, 2009

exquisite tea posted:

What happens when that bad actor is the President of the United States.

SAG and Equity would like to emphasize that Trump's work on a reality television show does not qualify him as an actor.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



He was also in Home Alone 2

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Phlegmish posted:

He was also in Home Alone 2

He was also in "Ghosts Can't Do It," which I have not seen but sounds repellant.:gonk:

Apparently, he got a Golden Raspberry for it, though, so...good for him?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Fojar38 posted:

So Rasmussen/Trafalgar/Hannity are making GBS threads up the Florida poll averages yeah?
Likely. Looking at Fivey the Fox's Data Visualization Hoedown for Florida, Trump has led in Florida on exactly one day (April 2nd) and it has been consistently around +2/+3 for Biden.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Majorian posted:

He was also in "Ghosts Can't Do It," which I have not seen but sounds repellant.:gonk:

Surely a movie called Ghosts Can't Do It is a cinematic masterpiece

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Phlegmish posted:

Surely a movie called Ghosts Can't Do It is a cinematic masterpiece

We Hate Movies did a good episode on it, but it unfortunately has not aged well - they did it right before the 2016 election, and well, they did not predict the outcome accurately, let's say.

Anyway, some valuable numbers for context:

https://twitter.com/VolviEinhorn/status/1321190042652577792

Majorian fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Oct 28, 2020

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Majorian posted:

He was also in "Ghosts Can't Do It," which I have not seen but sounds repellant.:gonk:

Apparently, he got a Golden Raspberry for it, though, so...good for him?
A crazy thing is that I was watching The Devil's Advocate the other day and noticed something about the weird gold apartment a character was living in...



It was filmed in Trump Tower. I remembered it from that weird Barron on a lion photo:



They also reference Trump in the movie about how he's late for the party with all the other villainous rich people who work with the Devil.

JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Oct 28, 2020

TwoQuestions
Aug 26, 2011

Fojar38 posted:

So Rasmussen/Trafalgar/Hannity are making GBS threads up the Florida poll averages yeah?

They are, look at the difference between 538 and Economist models of FL, the only real difference are the rhetorical polls if I'm not mistaken.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/florida/

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president/florida

Florida gonna Florida, we'll know in a couple weeks who was closer. Polls have also been more left-leaning than the results by a couple points for 2016 and 2018 if memory serves.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
That's a Hansa rideon and, as noted, I have the same one lol. They were most commonly at FAO Schwartz.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

SamuraiFoochs posted:

I'm an NC resident so I can speak a little more directly. The returns aren't "pop the champagne" good for Biden, but considering Trump won by something like 200k votes which is not a lot, the numbers are very solid. I literally started to do individual county dives FFS. I pulled a Wasserman.

Can anyone remember when NC or something like Indiana were called the night of or we had to wait until the next day? I also have a vague memory or Missouri being too close to call that night as well.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/1321225949061533696

his rallies arnt helping him at all. hell, they are making poo poo worse.

I really want to believe this is true but isn’t Priorities USA a Democratic Super PAC?

Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005

Grouchio posted:

And how does North Carolina look with all those new +1 polls? Didn't Ipsos just give Biden +4 yesterday?
It's a coin-toss, statistically. Polls look pretty similar to 2008--which is to say good, but no better than 2008, which is scary because Obama only won by 0.3% that time. Significantly better than 2016 (huge undecided population that broke last minute for Trump) or 2012 (Romney was always winning in polls).

Cooper has been above 50% with a 10 point lead for months, so maybe that can have a coattail effect.

Cunningham is in the scariest position. He's leading usually, but only by 1-2 points with a lot of undecideds left still.

Bodyholes fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 28, 2020

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Dec 1, 2004


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JazzFlight posted:

A crazy thing is that I was watching The Devil's Advocate the other day and noticed something about the weird gold apartment a character was living in...



It was filmed in Trump Tower. I remembered it from that weird Barron on a lion photo:



They also reference Trump in the movie about how he's late for the party with all the other villainous rich people who work with the Devil.

The best Trump role is John Glover as Clamp in Gremlins 2, the greatest film ever made.

britishbornandbread
Jul 8, 2000

You'll stumble in my footsteps
Would anyone be generous enough to share with me/the thread a 538 map of the best possible outcome for Biden in terms of a landslide, based on optimism and the polls? Wanna see dat EV number and swathes of blue. Thanks in advance.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

britishbornandbread posted:

Would anyone be generous enough to share with me/the thread a 538 map of the best possible outcome for Biden in terms of a landslide, based on optimism and the polls? Wanna see dat EV number and swathes of blue. Thanks in advance.

I got 413 in 538's doohickey by turning every light blue state solid blue, and then continuing to do so as the model updates turned more states blue

cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Oct 28, 2020

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



britishbornandbread posted:

Would anyone be generous enough to share with me/the thread a 538 map of the best possible outcome for Biden in terms of a landslide, based on optimism and the polls? Wanna see dat EV number and swathes of blue. Thanks in advance.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-election-map/#AZ:0,CO:0,FL:0,MI:0,MN:0,N2:0,NH:0,NV:0,NC:0,OH:0,PA:0,TX:0,WI:0,GA:1

I even spotted Trump Georgia

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Bodyholes posted:

It's a coin-toss, statistically. Polls look pretty similar to 2008, which is scary because Obama only won by 0.3% that time. Significantly better than 2016 (huge undecided population that broke last minute for Trump) or 2012 (Romney was always winning in polls).

Cooper has been above 50% with a 10 point lead for months, so maybe that can have a coattail effect.

Cunningham is in the scariest position. He's leading usually, but only by 1-2 points with a lot of undecideds left still.

Um, what're you talking about? The latest poll from about a week ago from YouGov (B on 538) has Cunningham +8. And this is anecdotal but people loving HATE Tillis here, not like, Pence in Indiana levels but he's not remotely popular and the "scandal" is getting virtually no play.

Cooper is definitely in the best position (he's gonna waltz to a win) but if any split happens I figure Biden loses, Cunningham wins. That said if you put a gun to my head now I'd say Biden wins both.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

britishbornandbread posted:

Would anyone be generous enough to share with me/the thread a 538 map of the best possible outcome for Biden in terms of a landslide, based on optimism and the polls? Wanna see dat EV number and swathes of blue. Thanks in advance.

https://www.270towin.com/maps/G87dZ

IMO this is the "best" possible outcome short of unrealistic wacky shenanigans. Biden clears 400 EC votes.

Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005



Something like this. Idk if that Maine district is competitive.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



cheetah7071 posted:

I got 4103 in 538's doohickey by turning every light blue state solid blue, and then continuing to do so as the model updates turned more states blue

4103 would be an excellent outcome

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
This is what happens when I hastily edit 410 to 413 when I realize DC isn't actually clickable in the map

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

britishbornandbread posted:

Would anyone be generous enough to share with me/the thread a 538 map of the best possible outcome for Biden in terms of a landslide, based on optimism and the polls? Wanna see dat EV number and swathes of blue. Thanks in advance.

I believe this is the best possible map based on giving Biden every state I've ever seen anyone mention as close: https://www.270towin.com/maps/WpPBx

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Saint Celestine posted:

https://www.270towin.com/maps/G87dZ

IMO this is the "best" possible outcome short of unrealistic wacky shenanigans. Biden clears 400 EC votes.

I played around with this map and gave TX, FL, NC and PA to Trump. Biden still won 311-227.

This is making me feel a lot better about next week. Is the real nail biter if we don't have a clear winner by midnight going into the 4th?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Bodyholes posted:



Something like this. Idk if that Maine district is competitive.

It's this, the only map where you can technically get all Democratic states touching.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



JazzFlight posted:



They also reference Trump in the movie about how he's late for the party with all the other villainous rich people who work with the Devil.

Perhaps counterintuitively, the over-the-top kitsch is part of his populist appeal (and part of why the traditional elite tends to despise him), he's a poor man's idea of what a rich man is like.

I'm reminded of the nouveaux riches in places like China, shamelessly overindulging in luxury and decadence without really 'getting' it.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



It's crazy to me that, even in wave scenarios where it looks like Texas, Georgia, and Ohio are all reasonably possible democratic pickups, Indiana remains totally hosed and deep red. it wasn't that long ago where it was possible to win it!

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
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Trump rallies are superspreader events where Trump on his best days rambles the same few lines that only appeal to his base, so I can imagine those aren’t big with most people.

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britishbornandbread posted:

Would anyone be generous enough to share with me/the thread a 538 map of the best possible outcome for Biden in terms of a landslide, based on optimism and the polls? Wanna see dat EV number and swathes of blue. Thanks in advance.

This is currently what the map looks like if Biden wins everything he is at this moment projected to win by 538:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.co...,IN:1,WV:1,MO:1

Please note that there's like seven toss-ups in here.

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