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Burn-in on OLEDs is permanent. The organic material in the cell is depleted, resulting in a dimmer image in the affected areas. It's not the same as image retention, which can be remedied by running a series of signals through the display.
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I have a Hisense 65H8G and watching movies/shows that aren't super hi def I notice a lot of pixelation surrounding light sources in dark scenes. Is that just normal for the budget TV I bought? Or does it need calibration or something? I'll see if I can get a shot of it in case someone wants to see it. I guess I originally thought it was what to expect with a cheaper TV but the RTINGS review for it talks about it's deep blacks. I was like...wait what? Any ideas? Edit: actually in the Rtings local dimming video they post you can see it with the white shapes that move slowly across the display. I guess maybe thats just the breaks with LED? Comfortador fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Oct 27, 2020 21:13
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Yeah, that's the local dimming array in action. It can make highlights pop, but if they're smaller than the individual panel, it can get ugly, and transitions to an adjacent panel can be noticeable. Higher end units will have more panels, and can handle smaller highlights without it being as noticeable. For hisense, try any or all of the following to make it less apparent: - under Backlight, lower your Backlight Level 1-20 points - also under Backlight, change Local Dimming to Medium - lower Contrast up to 5 points - lower Brightness up to 5 points - under Advanced, change Gamma to 2.4 Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Oct 27, 2020 21:31
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Costco is going to have the 85” Sony X90CH/X900H on sale for $1999 starting 11/20 through 11/30. Really contemplating returning my 75” I just got and getting this instead.
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Oct 28, 2020 02:21
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10 inches aint nothing to sneeze at.
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Oct 28, 2020 05:02
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It's also 30% more viewing area.
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Oct 28, 2020 05:07
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Yeah, I've already decided I'm going to return it. Costco.com has 90 returns and they will pickup the 75" from my house so there's really zero hassle for me. It may be possible to buy it now and price match within the 30-day window but there's some unknowns if this is "black friday pricing" and exempt from price match so I'm just going to wait.
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Oct 28, 2020 05:42
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I remember when I got my 27" CRT, second hand from my aunt who bought a new entertainment unit and it wouldn't fit inside it. Big Toshiba thing with S Video and all. Quickly moved on to spending the next 5 years or so wishing for a truly big TV. I was so happy when I finally got a 46" LCD in 2011. Had a 65" for 2 years now and I just wish I could get a 75" or whatever will fit on the wall its on. Viewing distance guidelines be damned
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Oct 28, 2020 12:08
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Inversely I wish the LG CX came in 32 or 27 inch so I could use it as a 4K monitor 
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Oct 28, 2020 14:11
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FCKGW posted:Costco is going to have the 85” Sony X90CH/X900H on sale for $1999 starting 11/20 through 11/30. Really contemplating returning my 75” I just got and getting this instead. I was just about to pull the trigger on the 65' CX for 1850 but 85 inches.............................. Is the picture really THAT much better?
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Oct 28, 2020 15:28
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Both my father and my brother in law have recently had problems with large Sony TVs blowing their power supplies. Definitely get the extended warranty if you get that Sony.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:11
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Hah, getting our 65" OLED up to the attic was hard enough. I can't imagine how large an 85" TV would be to carry.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:20
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Ak Gara posted:Inversely I wish the LG CX came in 32 or 27 inch so I could use it as a 4K monitor I'm hopeful that with the shrink to 48" that they'll eventually go to 42", which is still gigantic, but actually usable on a desktop.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:26
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FCKGW posted:Costco is going to have the 85” Sony X90CH/X900H on sale for $1999 starting 11/20 through 11/30. Really contemplating returning my 75” I just got and getting this instead. How good is Sony at keeping their promises of future firmware upgrades when it comes to TVs? I mean, it looks like they're pushing this for the PS5 pretty hard, but I'd want to make sure that it's not halfass implemented and that I regret buying this for future compatibility.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:47
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space marine todd posted:I'm hopeful that with the shrink to 48" that they'll eventually go to 42", which is still gigantic, but actually usable on a desktop. yeah I'm eyeballing a wall-mounted OLED as a potential upgrade from 34" ultrawide, and 48" is still going to be on the big side but if they could get it down to around 42" then I'd probably bite price coming down a bit would be the cherry on top but that doesn't seem to have happened with the 48" so I'm guessing it's just more expensive to produce these smaller sizes due to high pixel density
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Oct 28, 2020 18:04
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HDTVtest did a video on the 48" pricing with some diagrams and stuff, said it's cause the 48s can be cut from the leftover space of I think the 77s - so supply and demand stuff comes in from fewer 77s being made also means fewer 48s being made. Then the 55s (or 65s?) are an even cut from one panel and sell better so easier to price lower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045s-Uy4stg
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Oct 28, 2020 18:09
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Silly Burrito posted:How good is Sony at keeping their promises of future firmware upgrades when it comes to TVs? I mean, it looks like they're pushing this for the PS5 pretty hard, but I'd want to make sure that it's not halfass implemented and that I regret buying this for future compatibility. Still getting them on my 850E, thats a '17 model Also I hope you're not buying into this nonsense that a console is gonna be able to drive 60+fps reliably. There are guys out there right now arguing how that new SSD in the PS5 is going to improve their framerates
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Oct 28, 2020 18:25
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codo27 posted:Still getting them on my 850E, thats a '17 model Thanks. I don't really need a new TV but damned if it's not getting harder and harder to resist.
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Bob Socko posted:Both my father and my brother in law have recently had problems with large Sony TVs blowing their power supplies. Definitely get the extended warranty if you get that Sony. The Costco models have a 5yr warranty included, 7 if you use their Costco Visa card  Silly Burrito posted:How good is Sony at keeping their promises of future firmware upgrades when it comes to TVs? I mean, it looks like they're pushing this for the PS5 pretty hard, but I'd want to make sure that it's not halfass implemented and that I regret buying this for future compatibility. Good, they just pushed out their HDMI 2.1firmware update a week ago, and are still planning on doing a VRR update before the end of the year. Both were features promised but not available at launch.
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codo27 posted:Still getting them on my 850E, thats a '17 model Yeah, the only games that are gong to hit that magical 4k120 fps on a console are F2P games like Siege, Smite, Rocket League, etc., and most of them will probably still not hit the native resolution, and require dynamic scaling anyway.
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OldSenileGuy posted:I mean, that seems like potentially a big deal and something that Greentoe should compensate you for. Especially since they tout that your sale will be from a reputable dealer with a full warranty.
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Oct 28, 2020 18:57
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Buydig has the 65" CX for $1900 shipped, and the 77" CX for $3500 shipped: 65": https://www.bradsdeals.com/p/469300?c_id=5179&u_id=67424549&d=102820 77": https://www.bradsdeals.com/p/469292?c_id=5179&u_id=67424549&d=102820
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My issue with a Sony TV was less them updating it to have new features, but rather introducing (and not fixing) bugs. After Android 8 (or maybe it was 7) was pushed to it, it partly broke ARC. Each time I turned it on the TV would randomly fail to detect the receiver was connected via ARC, and instead start playing out the TV speakers. However, it still did send audio over ARC so there was this weird echo-y effect, until you went into the audio menu and specifically switched it back to 'sound system' instead of 'TV speakers'. I could mostly manage it by setting the TV audio volume to 0 (as long as ARC wasn't connected, in which case it would also lower the receiver volume), but occasionally it would decide to reset the TV audio to some default volume level and start playing out TV speakers again. Also if I Chromecast to it, the TV speakers would immediately turn back on at 100 and give me permanent hearing loss. Was a well reported issue on their forums and for a couple years they would occasionally claim to have fixed it in a firmware update, only to have it not be fixed. No idea if they eventually fixed it or not.
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Bob Socko posted:Both my father and my brother in law have recently had problems with large Sony TVs blowing their power supplies. Definitely get the extended warranty if you get that Sony. I mean, I did have the same thing happen on my 65 X900E that I have as my game TV, but still hesitate to say that would be worth paying extra for an extended warranty since the part was like $60 after core charge and it took all of 10 minutes to swap out with a screwdriver. You didn't even have to take the TV off the stand.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:Buydig has the 65" CX for $1900 shipped, and the 77" CX for $3500 shipped: The 77" price seems to be 3,500 everywhere now. Finally pulled the trigger on Amazon so I can use my card's over time payment option, even though Costco has the better warranty
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Yawgmoft posted:The 77" price seems to be 3,500 everywhere now. Finally pulled the trigger on Amazon so I can use my card's over time payment option, even though Costco has the better warranty Those buydig prices on the 65" and 77" models come with $75 and $300 Visa gift cards respectively. May not outweigh Amazon's payment plans (Or 5% back on the Amazon card.) for you, but something to consider.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:Buydig has the 65" CX for $1900 shipped, and the 77" CX for $3500 shipped: People probably know this, but Costco has the 65" for $1,849 now. It comes with a $100 Hulu credit too. Were people complaining before about Costco's delivery? Would it be better if I went and got it in person?
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The Grey posted:People probably know this, but Costco has the 65" for $1,849 now. It comes with a $100 Hulu credit too. If you can get it in person, absolutely do that. Just beware that the boxes these new big ol TVs come in are enormous so check out the box dimensions first and make sure it'll fit in your vehicle. Costco failed to do the 'white glove' unboxing for me and it was a motherfucker to wrangle the 77" CX alone. If I'd had access to a large enough vehicle I'd have absolutely gone and picked it up instead.
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I had my 75" delivered last week and it was only 3 days out from when I ordered it and they just dropped it off in my room with no issues 
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FCKGW posted:I had my 75" delivered last week and it was only 3 days out from when I ordered it and they just dropped it off in my room with no issues It's all hit or miss, Costco farms out the last mile to local delivery companies, some are better than others. I had excellent White Glove delivery once it got here, but it took 6 weeks for the 3rd party shipper to actually put it on a truck. doctorthefonz posted:Costco failed to do the 'white glove' unboxing for me and it was a motherfucker to wrangle the 77" CX alone. I have no idea how you managed to do that without another person, it's such a large panel.
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If they are just dropping it off at your house, Costco is fine. If they are going to install anything for you that is where you will have a problem.
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Listerine posted:It's all hit or miss, Costco farms out the last mile to local delivery companies, some are better than others. I had excellent White Glove delivery once it got here, but it took 6 weeks for the 3rd party shipper to actually put it on a truck. mcmagic is right based on what i've read in this thread before and after I bought mine. Through Costco online it was shipped by Innovel although idk if that's the actual name of the trucking company they use or whatever--they had a class B box truck with a liftgate. The delivery folk said no dice on unwrapping/box removal after they got it inside, and to Listerine's point, I am about 6' tall and p muscly and I just barely was able to get it up on my TV stand (~20" off the floor) by initially levering it on my huge sub-zero work/freezer coat being extremely careful not to apply pressure to the panel. Then, I picked it up with my right arm and gently balanced it with my left arm and gingerly placed it on the stand in front of me. I emphatically recommended NOT doing what I did because it was def careless & dangerous lol but one of those situations where I trusted my beef ya know
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:God damnit, the Sony A8H I was delivered from Greentoe is gray market. Only intended for Mexico. gently caress me...
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I'd guess they're shuffling some inventory around because of COVID and don't feel like re-packaging stuff.
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Best Buy's Black Friday ad is out, there's a few TV deals in there. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/black-friday/flippable-ad/pcmcat1601484511846.c
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I got a x900H not sure if I am blind or what but I can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080p I went to Bangbros and downloaded some 4k they don't look any better, I had them on a external hd I used the USB 900 max is there some settings I am missing or anything this my is my first 4k tv.
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Oct 30, 2020 00:55
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Broke in the new CX with Speed Racer. I don't think my eyes will ever be the same
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Am getting lots of flickering in near-black in dark scenes, anyone know what setting I ought to change?
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Am getting lots of flickering in near-black in dark scenes, anyone know what setting I ought to change? Try turning off Automatic Light Sensor (if any) and/or Automatic Contrast (if any).
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I'm getting tired of waiting on the projector market to catch up with modern display technologies (seriously, while VRR on a DLP with a color wheel is more or less impossible, 120 Hz should still be plenty doable considering most lines supported 3D at one point) so I went out looking at TVs last night. Unfortunately I've discovered that years of projector use has ruined me and while I love the picture quality on anything modern I just don't find the screen size impressive even at 75", only the 80+" models really felt like a proper upgrade. At least based on RTings comparison tool it looks like if I want 80+ inches with VRR support and native 120Hz input capability my choices come down to a shitload of Samsungs, two LG LCDs, and Vizio's absolute top of the line model. In theory the Sony X900H will be on the list whenever the firmware update that's supposed to enable VRR becomes available but I'm definitely not buying a $2500 TV based on promises of future support. With this limited selection are the Samsungs or LG LCDs worth considering more than usual, or should I just hope to find a deal on the Vizio and/or wait to see if Sony succeeds at the firmware update? RTings ranks the Samsung Q80T as the best choice in the class for gaming. I forget, are there actual hardware reasons to avoid Samsung or was it just their lovely software practices re: Tizen and security? I have plenty of standalone streaming devices so I have no need to actually connect any TV I buy to the internet directly. edit: Also, am I understanding correctly that the recent Panasonic chipset bug with 4K120 affects more or less all HDMI 2.1 capable receivers on the market currently? I have an old Marantz SR7001 that tops out at HDMI 1.2 and doesn't have any concept of ARC so that'll definitely be needing an upgrade as well. wolrah fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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