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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




SM starting to roll out member reveals for aespa:

https://twitter.com/aespa_Official/status/1320742017731756034?s=20

https://twitter.com/aespa_Official/status/1320742073167872001?s=20

https://twitter.com/aespa_Official/status/1320742143057514496?s=20

https://twitter.com/aespa_Official/status/1320742228034109441?s=20

my delight at aespa being pronounced more or less like esper

thx SM

e: o snap CL will also be performing the new single on Sketchbook this week, bless

esperterra fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Oct 27, 2020

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




SM's new girl group will have some Hatsune Mikus or something as a sub unit

https://www.soompi.com/article/1433733wpp/watch-sm-drops-mysterious-teaser-launches-twitter-account-for-something-called-aespa

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
Part of me thinks Vtubers are successful so it could work, but if they're all in the same group I can't see many people being interested in the virtual members over the real members. It would be really funny if the virtual members became more popular than the real members though.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




K/DA is quite successful, as well. And vocaloids obvs. What it really boils down to for me is how this will be integrated for releases, it sounds like the human members will promote like a regular idol group and the AI members will have some digital singles as well as be tied into music video lore or whatever.

e: oh and be used for social media and fan engagement poo poo

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW9f47Bn6yI

e: oh lol the beginning of this video. they joked about it in last week's episode but i didn't think they'd actually do it

for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBH7-A9hrA

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.

i do not like the cartoon idol

vtuber stuff in general makes me feel so out of touch lol

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

It's at least better than that one girl group with the one member who's always wearing that creepy bunny mask.

e: I was thinking about PinkFantasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjhJqiw6AU4

Vastakaiun fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Oct 28, 2020

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Vastakaiun posted:

It's at least better than that one girl group with the one member who's always wearing that creepy bunny mask.

e: I was thinking about PinkFantasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjhJqiw6AU4

What’s the story behind that and which group is that?

That seems ripe for a horror movie premise.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.

Vastakaiun posted:

It's at least better than that one girl group with the one member who's always wearing that creepy bunny mask.

e: I was thinking about PinkFantasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjhJqiw6AU4

Hahaha holy poo poo wtf I had never heard of this. Apparently they'll reveal her face when they have a number 1 on Billboard. Good luck.

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

Don't really care about their music so I've got no idea. Could just be a gimmick to drum up some interest.

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy

esperterra posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW9f47Bn6yI

e: oh lol the beginning of this video. they joked about it in last week's episode but i didn't think they'd actually do it

for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBH7-A9hrA

i love Jessi

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009

Thom and the Heads posted:

Hahaha holy poo poo wtf I had never heard of this. Apparently they'll reveal her face when they have a number 1 on Billboard. Good luck.

The rabbit even has her own instagram account, and they didn't even put her in the last song they did. https://www.instagram.com/daewang_official_md/

Man it must suck to spend years training to be an idol, and then be told to wear a stupid rabbit head the whole time, meanwhile 3 or 4 members have already left the group and it probably doesn't even have long left.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Honestly I kind of dig PinkFantasy's weird shtick, but they should have set the unmasking goals way lower than a Billboard #1, like have it be their first music show win or something. Or topping one of the Korean charts, which is hard enough for idols now without them trying to top fuckin Billboard lmfao.

Anyway the dude in Yenny's La Luna video was wearing the same kind of mask and it briefly confused many people when that single dropped.

e: ngl the pinkfantasy songs i've listened to are bops too. what a weird group.

e2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SETfp1naf6o

ugh the queen is back

so excited for the proper release of her Sketchbook performances and the other live for this comeback

BITCHES WE SO CLOSE

few things make me miss audiences more than the fact CL is making her return to Korean stages (stages in general it's been two years!!)

esperterra fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Oct 28, 2020

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YznDv2NQeQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9TzdeLHvc

it begins bbs

e: album drops nov 30th

esperterra fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Oct 29, 2020

Elucidarius
Oct 14, 2006


This is exactly what I had hoped it would be. Can't wait for the album!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Elucidarius posted:

This is exactly what I had hoped it would be. Can't wait for the album!

:same:

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Mamamoo Album Medley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoUinx-7whc&feature=youtu.be

Psycho Mantits
Oct 6, 2009
A bit late to the party but the new Twice album SLAPS.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZLe_TCcsQ

Psycho Mantits posted:

A bit late to the party but the new Twice album SLAPS.

After I CAN'T STOP ME it has been added to my list of albums to finally listen to during my move, despite being brand new and the rest of the list being poo poo I've put off lmao. The song's so good, probably the most hype TWICE has made me yet.

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

This came out the same day as Twice and TXT, and I was not expecting it to get stuck in my head, instead of those two, like it has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Rzu0t_LIc

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81



So what's with the green hat?

Song great, obviously.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Deformed Church posted:

So what's with the green hat?

Song great, obviously.

Much like Yubin and Sunmi continuing the WG legacy of retro sound, CL continues the 2NE1 tradition of dressing like a loving crazy person and I love it.

Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of her stuff for this promo are all custom, she's super close with a lot of designers iirc.

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous
I can't stand this new twice song, its just the same dogshit uninspired retro crap that we've been getting in pop music for the last few years. If you only had these songs as a basis for what music sounded like in the 80s or 90s you'd be forgiven for thinking every song was literally the exact same.

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
I can understand that, I'm a big Twice fan so I just enjoy it as Twice's take on a retro song rather than just another retro song. I'm glad the whole album isn't retro though.

Paperback Writer
May 1, 2006

yeah tried listening to the Twice album, not for me

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Yeah I can vibe w/ that reasoning, as well. The retro trend we're in right now will probably last for a while, at least, and is going fairly hard. Though kpop and retro sounds have been peas in a pod since kpop started, to be fair. So it never fully goes away.

This recent string of stuff does sound kinda samey though, I can agree with that for sure. I feel like The Weeknd kind of kicked off this cycle of it and a lot of music coming out sounds like it was inspired by Blinding Lights.

When We Disco is def the superior JYPE released retro throwback r/n. I really want to know what a JYP written retro song would sound like for TWICE, since I CAN'T STOP ME isn't his-- in fact I don't think he has any writing credits on the new album.

He is the king of retro bops after all.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
I thought JYP wrote ICSM

edit: yeah he did

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Thom and the Heads posted:

I thought JYP wrote ICSM

edit: yeah he did

Just the lyrics, tho. He didn't compose it.

e: I should have specified him not having any composing credits on the album lmbo, it's rare he doesn't touch a title track in some way

esperterra fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Oct 29, 2020

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.

esperterra posted:

Just the lyrics, tho. He didn't compose it.

e: I should have specified him not having any composing credits on the album lmbo, it's rare he doesn't touch a title track in some way

Ahh gotcha - I hadn't noticed.

I am admittedly a shameless Twice apologist but I think, putting aside ICSM (which I personally love a lot although Twice + 80s synths was always going to work with me anyway), Eyes Wide Open has some of the strongest B-sides of their career. Some of the best songs on the album were written by members too which I think is pretty neat. Although I love Dubu unfortunately the songs she wrote, Queen and Bring it Back, are probably my least favorite on the album.

Do What We Like written by Sana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw2SgJXWP-4

Handle It written by Chaeyoung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTZw8yvMn8

Depend On You written by Nayeon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnLGYQSr_4

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




JYPE is p much the only Big 3 company that consistently has members of girl groups participating in song production if they want to, it's one of the things I love so much about their GGs in general. The company really seems to just foster that environment of 'hey, if you wanna learn songwriting go for it we gotchu'.

REBOOT was basically entirely written and composed by the Wonder Girls, other than I Feel You, and even way back in Wonder World they had a lot of writing credits on their tracks. Not to mention both Yubin and Yenny doing songwriting for acts outside their group-- hell Yubin is technically still a JYP employee under their production team, despite now being the CEO of her own company.

Meanwhile at SM and YG it's far more common for the boy groups to be allowed to get involved with their production, and is often a selling point for their BGs in the case of YG. Hell, CL wasn't allowed to write on any 2NE1 tracks until their final album.

Though with YG it really seems to depend on whether it's an idol group or otherwise. And it's not to say SM definitely doesn't allow their female idols to get in on production, but it seems to be more of a senior artist thing for them-- Taeyeon wrote lyrics for I, for instance, and then chose herself not to write any more of her own songs b/c she prefers singing stuff written by other people. BoA produces most of her own stuff now as well-- but then again it's loving BoA she can do whatever she drat well pleases.

Granted this could all be confirmation bias and JYPE just tends to have more trainees and idols who are actively interested in pursuing composition and writing, so it feels like they're more cool with it when they just have more people who want to do it. Though with YG it's pretty clear the man uh has some issues with women in general, and it is very weird that it took so long for anything CL wrote to appear on an album.

e: digging into SM a bit more it looks like Yeri has had a hand in a few of their songs, v good. with SM I think they may just be picky and sticklers for quality in general. i remember sooyoung, yuri and seohyun always complaining that they'd write stuff and it wouldn't get picked for albums. they prob have a very specific bar of quality they want to uphold lmao

esperterra fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Oct 29, 2020

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
esperterra i love your posts because i am completely oblivious to 2nd gen outside of like SNSD

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
I want JYP to write another song like Signal, just do something weird again lol

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Thom and the Heads posted:

esperterra i love your posts because i am completely oblivious to 2nd gen outside of like SNSD

bless. I'm glad to have somewhere to dump all this useless info I have in my head lol, along with all the new things I am learning as I finally dig into more 3rd gen stuff, so it's nice if people appreciate my word vomit!

Scylo posted:

I want JYP to write another song like Signal, just do something weird again lol

Weird JYP is a blessing upon us all

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




So Rain is returning as a part of a duo for an album, and it sounds like the other half is none other than JYP himself.

Rona may suck but 2020 continues to be a crazy year for kpop legends, goddamn.

e: new HYO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bar3VXF45U

I believe another version of this is coming/available but prob won't get an MV.

esperterra fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Oct 30, 2020

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Aww yee Sketchbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZXfoWxXOI

The Baddest Female + MTBD

+THNX190519+

ngl, one of the most exciting things about this comeback is we're finally going to get to see her perform stuff from In The Name of Love live

e:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_DE4SIq44

esperterra fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Oct 31, 2020

Elucidarius
Oct 14, 2006

esperterra posted:

Aww yee Sketchbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZXfoWxXOI

The Baddest Female + MTBD

+THNX190519+

ngl, one of the most exciting things about this comeback is we're finally going to get to see her perform stuff from In The Name of Love live

e:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_DE4SIq44

Don't forget this: CL's Killing Verse Live!

Includes:Dirty Vibe, Lifted, Docter Pepper, Hello Bitches, +HWA+

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




One day I will have as much fun as CL is having in that Killing Verse vid.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
Got into Weeekly over the weekend - been really impressed by their first two minis. Tag Me is a super strong debut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moq0aOiTUOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FqAoADnId4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBv90rteKbg

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
I really liked Tag Me, it's just a fun song. Zig Zag and Hello are just songs that randomly get stuck in my head at times as well. From some stuff I watched on youtube they all seem really talented despite being so young, Jiyoon even wrote and composed 2 of the tracks on the debut mini album.

New Monsta X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ToHbHcolfA

Centusin fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Nov 2, 2020

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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Thom and the Heads posted:

Got into Weeekly over the weekend - been really impressed by their first two minis. Tag Me is a super strong debut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moq0aOiTUOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FqAoADnId4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBv90rteKbg

I was pretty into Tag Me even though it appears to be taking parts from a different song the producers had made. But it was solid as hell, the first mini was enjoyable too. The second mini, not really vibing with it. I guess I really was into the pop punk vibes of tag me and it’s just missing on the second mini’s songs imo

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