|
feedmyleg posted:I mean, I'm not surprised that anyone could believe it, I just don't remember any cultural or media narrative around that like LifeLynx implied. Nah I remember it being a thing largely because as a dumb high school history nerd in 2004 I wrote a too long paper on all the silly poo poo in the book that people were taking seriously.
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 16:23
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 16, 2024 07:11 |
|
|
My favorite part of the book is that there's a whole chapter dedicated to plugging the Smart Car that his new GF drives.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 16:26
|
|
|
I just want to note that the plot of the 2013 Tomb Raider game is about a male-only cult that worships Japanese culture, kidnaps a young Japanese girl, and develops a Madonna complex where they deify her and vilify her European friend, to the point of violence. I feel like that has to be intentional. Rise, meanwhile, I have no clue what that was on about.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 16:37
|
|
|
The only Tomb Rader game I played was Tomb Rader 2, and I gave up when I found out that I wasn't supposed to shoot the monks, and if I hadn't they wouldn't have been kicking my rear end on site.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 16:42
|
|
|
feedmyleg posted:Wait, people believed that stuff was true? Yes. My mother and many of her friends (at the time) were very into it, and while they didn't all believe the story was 100% based on fact there was a lot of "gosh, if it were true the Church would certainly cover it up so it's not like you could ever know for certain." There were also plenty of History Channel shows and the like about the myths that inspired the book, and they all had the same vibe as those UFO/ancient aliens shows they used to do. I'm kind of glad my mom left that crowd because I'm certain they would have been way into Q poo poo. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Oct 28, 2020 |
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 16:50
|
|
|
Pirate Jet posted:I just want to note that the plot of the 2013 Tomb Raider game is about a male-only cult that worships Japanese culture, kidnaps a young Japanese girl, and develops a Madonna complex where they deify her and vilify her European friend, to the point of violence. Oh, I have played that one. Let me tell you. It’s about ... ... oh, a source of immortality, which has to be destroyed in the end.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 17:02
|
|
|
it's about a lot of cool byzantine stuff
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 17:10
|
|
|
Schwarzwald posted:Yes. My mother and many of her friends (at the time) were very into it, and while they didn't all believe the story was 100% based on fact there was a lot of "gosh, if it were true the Church would certainly cover it up so it's not like you could ever know for certain." There were also plenty of History Channel shows and the like about the myths that inspired the book, and they all had the same vibe as those UFO/ancient aliens shows they used to do. And even before the books there were plenty of conspiracy theories around about the Vatican keeping a blood descendant of Jesus around to fulfill some ancient prophecy.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 17:17
|
|
|
The Da Vinci code popularized or maybe invented the idea that Mary Magdalene is in the painting The Last Supper. Supposedly tour guides got sick of showing the painting because people did nothing but ask about its supposed hidden meanings.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 17:22
|
|
|
Pirate Jet posted:Rise, meanwhile, I have no clue what that was on about.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 17:31
|
|
|
Pirate Jet posted:I just want to note that the plot of the 2013 Tomb Raider game is about a male-only cult that worships Japanese culture, kidnaps a young Japanese girl, and develops a Madonna complex where they deify her and vilify her European friend, to the point of violence. It was about shooting people real good. Rise has the best combat out of the 3.
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 18:40
|
|
|
feedmyleg posted:I mean, I'm not surprised that anyone could believe it, I just don't remember any cultural or media narrative around that like LifeLynx implied. holy blood, holy grail was a mocked book in Robert anton Wilson novels Dan brown wrote the illuminatus trilogy for dummies
|
|
#
?
Oct 28, 2020 19:26
|
|
|
If Shadow of the Tomb Raider where made into a movie, would it be considered a Predator movie? Just with more white savior/Neo-liberal "Only rich white people can save the world!" crap.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 00:21
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1321483732679839744?s=20 This film did not have approval from the Bowie family and will not feature any of his songs.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 00:27
|
|
|
Didn't Bowie always want the story of Ziggy Stardust to be his movie and not an actual biopic?
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 00:32
|
|
|
The david bowie thing is literally a gag from 30 rock coming true. Amazing. Admittedly, it was a Jannis Joplin biopic, but stillMacdeo Lurjtux posted:And even before the books there were plenty of conspiracy theories around about the Vatican keeping a blood descendant of Jesus around to fulfill some ancient prophecy. Preacher had a whole plotline on this in the 90s, and, in true garth ennis fashion, made him inbred to the point of retardation, which is all played for laughs. Preacher is a land of contrasts Iron Crowned posted:It's basically the kind of book you buy at the airport bookstore because you forgot to pack your Gameboy Advance. Maybe I'm showing my age here, but this was an entire loving genre of book. Airport fiction. It's written in a particular style (very simple prose and constant reminders of where everyone is) with a particular focus (details, lots of details about the legal system or art history or how missiles work or whatever) It's so, while you're jetlagged and on your 9th rum and coke, you can keep track of the story and, while the details are being given, either tune out or hyperfocus depending on whether you really want to know exactly how a ship's radar talks to a plane's radar while talking to a missile's radar. Clancy was obviously the king of this poo poo, but it's crazy how ubiquitous it was right up until quite recently. Whenever my dad was on a business trip he'd come back with two or three of these housebrick sized books Speaking of Clancy, apparently they're looking to do adaptations of Without Remorse and Rainbow 6. The more surprising thing is that it's taken this long to get an adaptation of rainbow 6, which is a very pre 9/11 book.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 00:46
|
|
|
muscles like this! posted:IIRC the book has a thing at the beginning from Dan Brown claiming that while the thriller aspects are made up all the historical poo poo and details about the paintings are all true, which they aren't. He then ended up getting sued by the authors of a book that say he stole all the stuff about Jesus having a living descendent from them. I don't know how that case went, but he absolutely did copy the living descendent stuff from a decades older work.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 00:47
|
|
|
feedmyleg posted:Wait, people believed that stuff was true? I definitely don't remember hearing anything along those lines, but I guess I didn't know anyone who was reading them at the time. I thought it was just one of the occasional book series that broke through to the mainstream like Girl with a Dragon Tattoo where people are nuts about it for a while then it just kinda fades away after everyone gets tired of it. It seemed like an accessible modern day Indiana Jones sort of thing, but dumber. There were basically entire books and like sub-sub-sections in bookstores devoted to how this stuff was real and all the channels back then like conservative talk radio/etc. pushed it like it was real. Also come on  http://www.biblecodesoftware.org/
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 00:54
|
|
|
Snowman_McK posted:Speaking of Clancy, apparently they're looking to do adaptations of Without Remorse and Rainbow 6. The more surprising thing is that it's taken this long to get an adaptation of rainbow 6, which is a very pre 9/11 book. If they are going with the original book, then this sounds like the absolute WORST thing to adapt right now. A bunch of eco terrorists who decide to kill off most of humanity with a pandemic and fake vaccine to save the planet and at the end are left to die naked in a jungle? Yup, just what we need in 2020. Unless they are just going to adapt the bare bones plot of R6 Siege and load it with "Lord Tachanka" memes. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Oct 29, 2020 |
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:02
|
|
|
AceOfFlames posted:If they are going with the original book, then this sounds like the absolute WORST thing to adapt right now. A bunch of eco terrorists who decide to kill off most of humanity with a pandemic and fake vaccine to save the planet and at the end are left to die naked in a jungle? Yup, just what we need in 2020. Also, all the terrorist cells they activate are all cold war terrorists: The Baader Meinhoff gang or elements of the IRA. It's a real end of history view of the world. There's also a bit where Domingo Chavez uses his 'hot latin blood' as an interrogation super power. And another where they say that 'In Germany, a life sentence means a life sentence' unlike in the US, presumably, which, in retrospect is loving hilarious. It's a really loving stupid book as are virtually all Tom Clancy books when you're not reading them and instead just remember the poo poo that happens. I mean, one book later Russia joins Nato. In the book before that Iraq and Iran became the same country. Snowman_McK fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Oct 29, 2020 |
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:05
|
|
|
Snowman_McK posted:And another where they say that 'In Germany, a life sentence means a life sentence' unlike in the US, presumably, which, in retrospect is loving hilarious. I think in legal terminology a life sentence in the US is considered to be 20 years, versus 'natural life' which means you're there until you die.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:16
|
|
|
Without Remorse is a reprehensible book. Here's your prostitute drug addict to redeem, but because she's an ex-whore and recovered junky she's going to be murdered. This gives heroman the excuse to torture people horribly and go on a murder spree. The reward for his bloodbath is levelling up into the CIA job and a good, clean, socially acceptable nurse for a wife.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:18
|
|
|
Michael B Jordan is supposed to be starring in the adaptation of Without Remorse.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:20
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I don't know how that case went, but he absolutely did copy the living descendent stuff from a decades older work. This turned out to be kind of funny. I believe the Holy Blood Holy Grail book authors sued him for copying their book. Which conceptually he did. The funny thing is that they insisted that their book was all true, shocking facts, which means that it's just a history book and you can't copyright the concept of history. If it's true, then it's true. So they got stuck between trying to get money from Dan Brown and admitting that their book was fiction.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:26
|
|
|
Reminds me of the guy who was trying to sue the Conjuring people saying that he had made a deal with the Warrens for their life story back in the day. The studio argument was that it was based on real events and his counter argument was that ghosts aren't real.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:34
|
|
|
muscles like this! posted:Michael B Jordan is supposed to be starring in the adaptation of Without Remorse. "I lived my entire life waiting for this moment. I trained, I lied. I killed in America, Afghanistan, Iraq... I took life for my own brothers and sisters right here on this continent! "
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 01:39
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1321483732679839744?s=20 This is the worst Bowie impersonation I can imagine
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 04:33
|
|
|
I've said this before but doing a Bowie biopic is just incredibly ill-conceived no matter who it is unless you go real weird with it, like beyond the "I'm Not There" thing of having a bunch of different actors playing elements of Dylan's persona in vignettes that are varying degrees of fictional. You'd have to go real out there, like having literally nobody play David Bowie and just have an empty space where the character is and everyone's acting like there's somebody there, or have the character be hand-animated and a vocaloid and everyone else be normal actors. The closest would be maybe having wildly different actors, none of whom look act or sound anything like Bowie, each one playing him in a different phase of his career, and also have constant revisions to the story where characters are directly addressing events that just occurred but making up different events than what we just watched.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 04:53
|
|
|
I'm watching the Back to the Future 4k release and this stunt driver from the end of the movie is cracking me up. They hired an Oompa Loompa to drive the car.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 05:25
|
|
|
Baron von Eevl posted:I've said this before but doing a Bowie biopic is just incredibly ill-conceived no matter who it is unless you go real weird with it, like beyond the "I'm Not There" thing of having a bunch of different actors playing elements of Dylan's persona in vignettes that are varying degrees of fictional.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 05:46
|
|
|
TOOT BOOT posted:I think in legal terminology a life sentence in the US is considered to be 20 years, versus 'natural life' which means you're there until you die. Same as in Germany, but as far as I know you can't give someone multiple life sentences here.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 06:38
|
|
|
TOOT BOOT posted:I think in legal terminology a life sentence in the US is considered to be 20 years, versus 'natural life' which means you're there until you die.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 06:52
|
|
|
Snowman_McK posted:The david bowie thing is literally a gag from 30 rock coming true. Amazing. Admittedly, it was a Jannis Joplin biopic, but still Jackie Jorp Jomp is what I instantly think of whenever I hear about any of these biopics.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 07:01
|
|
|
Grendels Dad posted:Same as in Germany, but as far as I know you can't give someone multiple life sentences here. oh yeah, it was a dog whistle for his readers who think the US is too soft on crime (all of them)
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 07:44
|
|
|
Baron von Eevl posted:I've said this before but doing a Bowie biopic is just incredibly ill-conceived no matter who it is unless you go real weird with it, like beyond the "I'm Not There" thing of having a bunch of different actors playing elements of Dylan's persona in vignettes that are varying degrees of fictional. We already have Velvet Goldmine anyway
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 11:27
|
|
|
feedmyleg posted:Wait, people believed that stuff was true? I definitely don't remember hearing anything along those lines, but I guess I didn't know anyone who was reading them at the time. I thought it was just one of the occasional book series that broke through to the mainstream like Girl with a Dragon Tattoo where people are nuts about it for a while then it just kinda fades away after everyone gets tired of it. It seemed like an accessible modern day Indiana Jones sort of thing, but dumber. I was active in the Lutheran Church and attended Catholic school when the book came out, and we got a LOT of information on how wrong the book was and how it was sacrilegious, heretical, etc. The Church was terrified people would believe Jesus hosed. Iron Crowned posted:I think another element of why the Da Vinci Code was so popular was that it was just written in very simple prose. Every chapter also seemed to end with Tom Hanks thinking to himself that "no, it couldn't be that, could it?" With the next chapter picking up with "yes, it was that!" It's also only like 300-400 pages long but has over 100 chapters, so every couple pages you're getting a twist. muscles like this! posted:Of course the stupidest thing about the whole book is calling it "The Da Vinci Code" since, you know, "da Vinci" wasn't his last name and so the title is literally "The From Venci Code." Dan Brown get on the hype train before it's too late, rename your book The DA VINKYYYY?! Code Snowman_McK posted:Also, all the terrorist cells they activate are all cold war terrorists: The Baader Meinhoff gang or elements of the IRA. It's a real end of history view of the world. I read Executive Orders in high school, and in hindsight making the Secret Service agent that betrays the President a foreigner and the President broadcasts the bombing of a terrorist cell on live TV... do not age well. Not to mention Jack Ryan, upon becoming President, immediately throws out the entire tax code to simplify it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 14:18
|
|
|
Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Counterpoint: what if Paul Giamatti played Bowie?? Counter-counterpoint: I was gonna joke and say John C Reilly as Bowie, but the more I think about it the more I'm into it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 14:35
|
|
|
Baron von Eevl posted:I've said this before but doing a Bowie biopic is just incredibly ill-conceived no matter who it is unless you go real weird with it, like beyond the "I'm Not There" thing of having a bunch of different actors playing elements of Dylan's persona in vignettes that are varying degrees of fictional I mean, Velvet Goldmine already exists, and was awesome
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 14:59
|
|
|
David Lynch figured out the whole "we don't have a Bowie to put on screen" thing 3 years ago. '
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 17:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 16, 2024 07:11 |
|
|
The only person to play David Bowie is Tilda Swinton.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2020 17:15
|
|
