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I'm really glad I didn't do that then. That's stupid as hell that they charge you full price plus you have to keep subscribing to gamepass.
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Uh, you thought you would get the game+upgrade for the price of the upgrade? Truly a mystery why microsoft wouldn't allow that.
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Xakura posted:Uh, you thought you would get the game+upgrade for the price of the upgrade? Truly a mystery why microsoft wouldn't allow that. I don't think you understand. The full price of the deluxe edition is 90 dollars. If you have game pass and go to try to buy the deluxe upgrade in game, the price is 90 dollars. If it was just an upgrade, it would cost 30 dollars and require you to keep game pass going for the 60 dollar base version.
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Oct 29, 2020 00:02
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skooma512 posted:I remember when Arma 3 came out with workshop support. In Arma 2 and back you had all kinds of random sites hosting mods. Cobbled together installers and updaters for core mods like Six Updater. Then the workshop came out and all that poo poo just went to Steam. We're not limited by hosting because it's not just some Czech guy's fan site or beholden to rickety homebrew installers that barely work. ATS/ETS2 support Steam Workshop as well but it's not very useful because the lead poisoned boomers who are a big part of the community absolutely refuse to distribute on anything but their own sites
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Xakura posted:Uh, you thought you would get the game+upgrade for the price of the upgrade? Truly a mystery why microsoft wouldn't allow that. Cojawfee posted:I don't think you understand. The full price of the deluxe edition is 90 dollars. If you have game pass and go to try to buy the deluxe upgrade in game, the price is 90 dollars. If it was just an upgrade, it would cost 30 dollars and require you to keep game pass going for the 60 dollar base version. Correct. I paid for the full deluxe version after first playing the game through Game Pass. Paid $108.86. The rep from Microsoft said I would either have to get Game Pass again or just outright buy the game again from the MS store.
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Oct 29, 2020 00:17
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Romes128 posted:Correct. I paid for the full deluxe version after first playing the game through Game Pass.  What a scam, holy poo poo.
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Oct 29, 2020 01:12
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The premium edition upgrade (as in, without the full version which you already should have) in the store is also somehow more expensive than if you bought the whole thing from the start Idk if they think my copy is still gamepass or they priced it with GP in mind, but I have a standard license now. You would pay like 140 if you got the standard edition and then upgraded in the store later.
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Oct 29, 2020 01:34
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skooma512 posted:The premium edition upgrade (as in, without the full version which you already should have) in the store is also somehow more expensive than if you bought the whole thing from the start They wanted to incentivize buying the version you wanted from the beginning. And to clarify: yes the upgrade costs more, but you're not buying a license to the full game, you're only buying the additional content. If you lose your license to the game, by like stopping game pass, then yes you lose access to the game it's not a super complicated chain of events.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:24
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Another call with ms and they explained that for the price of the deluxe edition i didn’t buy the deluxe edition I bought digital currency which covered the cost of the deluxe edition... which is insane but ok. But that can’t be changed to a ms store purchase even though I bought the deluxe version in game not through Xbox game pass. Even though the store recognizes I have the game downloaded and installed but when I hit play I get an error like when the game hadn’t been released yet. There are other people online complaining about the same thing but no solution. Guess I’ll eat the $10 a month for pc game pass.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:45
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Honestly don’t buy the premium editions barring: -definite interest in several of the airports (one or two will be cheaper to buy third party payware which is potentially better quality) -and/or a pathological need to have one of the variants of planes right now and you can’t wait. The fact that their stock planes are so broken and the community can’t fix premium ones sucks. The extra airports are cool but I bet you’d be better off picking and choosing unless you really need the ones they offer. (I also personally tend to undervalue airports because I prefer flying lots of different places instead of the same few other than airports I know well IRL.)
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Oct 29, 2020 05:32
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Would someone please make a C-2 greyhound simulator where I can pretend to fly back and forth from a CBG and keep it supplied.
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Romes128 posted:Another call with ms and they explained that for the price of the deluxe edition i didn’t buy the deluxe edition I bought digital currency which covered the cost of the deluxe edition... which is insane but ok. Well if you're going to have to have GamePass, you might as well take full advantage. There's a lot of good games on there. Subnautica, Outer Worlds, Halo Master Chief Collection, Crusader Kings 3, Age of Empires 3, The Metro franchise, Forza, Sea of Thieves, Void Bastards, Frostpunk, FTL, Cities: Skylines, No Man's Sky, Stellaris. It's a pretty good value if you like a wide variety of games. If you're just into flight sims though, that's a bummer.
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Scruff McGruff posted:Well if you're going to have to have GamePass, you might as well take full advantage. There's a lot of good games on there. Subnautica, Outer Worlds, Halo Master Chief Collection, Crusader Kings 3, Age of Empires 3, The Metro franchise, Forza, Sea of Thieves, Void Bastards, Frostpunk, FTL, Cities: Skylines, No Man's Sky, Stellaris. It's a pretty good value if you like a wide variety of games. If you're just into flight sims though, that's a bummer. I'm sure that is a comfort for him as microsoft scammed him out of a $60 value. BMan posted:the microsoft defender has logged on
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Also I’m getting 75 FPS on a 3080 at 1440 just with the level of detail sliders set to 100. I’m sure there’s other settings I can change but for now those made the biggest difference. Game looks awesome.
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Oct 29, 2020 17:47
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Speaking of gold/premium editions, is there a way to get an SR22 as a standalone add-on?
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Oct 29, 2020 18:22
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Update is out... https://www.flightsimulator.com/release-notes-1-10-7-0-update-5-now-available/
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Oct 29, 2020 18:23
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quote:Huge hole in Brazil has been fixed Love this.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:37
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Xakura posted:I'm sure that is a comfort for him as microsoft scammed him out of a $60 value. To be clear, I agree that's total horseshit. Just trying to help him make the best of it.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:45
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Installing and hoping it fixes the Lightning Everywhere bullshit (even though it doesn't mention fixing it directly.) That and the crashing was why I put this down two patches ago. Hoping maybe I can enjoy this again, though! Honeycomb stuff is coming soon!
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Oct 29, 2020 18:49
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Soy Division posted:Update is out... Good patch, if true
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Oct 29, 2020 19:11
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Getting the DLC without the game makes total sense from the Game pass policy point of view. They warn you as much but maybe not as prominently as they could. It's just MSFS deluxe add-ons are an insane gotcha where the add on costs as much as a new license so it sure feels like fraud when your game pass flight sim links you to the DLC for $90 instead of the full license for $90.
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Oct 29, 2020 19:14
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Trip report: I do not think there is thunder and lightning everywhere. I haven't tested autopilot to see if its hosed still, but this bodes well for me wanting to fly again!
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Oct 29, 2020 19:49
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Anime Store Adventure posted:Trip report: I do not think there is thunder and lightning everywhere. I haven't tested autopilot to see if its hosed still, but this bodes well for me wanting to fly again! wait finally no clear skies lighting.
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Oct 29, 2020 20:04
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tater_salad posted:wait finally no clear skies lighting. Not for me in a few different trial location/weather settings!
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Oct 29, 2020 20:07
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Xplane 11 is in the Steam sale for 34 bucks (42% discount). Sweet as, can't wait to try it tonight. Probably gonna snag the Mi-8 module for DCS after the 1st too.
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Oct 29, 2020 20:47
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There's a Long-EZ and a Mooney in the in-game store now. Has anyone tried either of them? e: patch notes: quote:UI gently caress YEAH
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Sagebrush posted:There's a Long-EZ and a Mooney in the in-game store now. Has anyone tried either of them? BUT WHAT ABOUT THE TRAINS?!
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Sagebrush posted:There's a Long-EZ and a Mooney in the in-game store now. Has anyone tried either of them? Really all they had to do was move the 'push any key' screen to the end of all the loads. Make it so when you click you're immediately at the menu so they could still have their cool animated screen if they wanted it. But i'll take this too.
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I think the new patch is OK? I didn't experience a lot of the autopilot woes of the last couple patches (as I quit around Patch 4 because it was getting so arduous to deal with the bugs), and I have not really ever been using VNAV in anything but the Airbus, which I play with modded. FLC was a tiny bit wonky on my climbout in a King Air, but ultimately some of that might have been weather + weight and me trying to compensate. I'm cruising now and its holding steady despite a hell of a crosswind from the jet stream. No weather issues related to thunder and lightning everywhere, live weather seems to be working pretty well though it still has the "works once and then you have to restart" issue. Running Azure ATC and live downloading terrain and all that, no game crashing so far, it's been running about an hour. Performance is roughly the same, but thats just eyeballing it, not measuring average FPS. The King Air still doesn't have a functional baro knob lol. In any case, it seems like there's enough stability and I'm currently free of many of the bugs keeping me from playing, so I should be good to get some flying in again! 
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My big hope of getting a 3070 this morning was dashed. So we’ll still can’t play the game with decent frame rate.
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soggybagel posted:My big hope of getting a 3070 this morning was dashed. So we’ll still can’t play the game with decent frame rate. Not sure if you're in the market for a specific card/brand but EVGA made a queue for the 3080, I'd bet they'd do something similar for the 3070.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:26
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The new patch reset all my xbox controller binds yet again. gently caress's sake
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Aw gently caress, by the end of my flight the weather had cleared and I started getting random lightning again. But maybe the occurrence of it is improved?
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Oct 29, 2020 23:32
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https://twitter.com/MSFS_Support/status/1321927413853425664 Asobo continues to deliver. Sounds like it might be an issue with Fanatec rudder pedals.
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Maybe I was just an edge case but I feel like the closed alpha was nearly rock solid, UI idiosyncrasies aside. I had the game for a couple months on GamePass when it released and I feel like it took a few pretty major steps back. I cancelled GamePass after 2 months and at this rate it'll be a year or so before I jump back in. Wish they could have just waited to release until like January.
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sellouts posted:https://twitter.com/MSFS_Support/status/1321927413853425664 Getting the crashing myself, but don't have Fanatecs. Tried disabling my MFG Crosswinds, but didn't help. Hopefully they get this sorted soon.
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No A/P issues so far but I haven’t tried an instrument approach yet so not sure if that is still bugged. Less lightning happening in Florida but still more than would be ideal. Working Title G1000/3000 displays semi broken but still flyable, they’re already working on a fix. Overall solid patch 8/10
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I have noticed that, even with the FlyByWire mod for the A320, the fuel usage seems to be higher than what the flight computers show. The total amount of fuel burned on the screen is not consistent with what is shown on the actual fuel menu and the effective range seems to be fairly shorter than what the A320neo should be able to achieve. Meanwhile on the 787 the fuel burn seems to be literally a third of what it should be. One hell of an airplane you made Boeing, the range on this thing is like 36 hours of flight!
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I managed an ILS approach (and even an AI ATC managed descent!) in the King Air. Rode it right down to about 500ft RA with no issue just today. Again, caveat I don’t know how often it hosed up on the previous patch. I also have the navigraph beta AIRAC installed and while I don’t think this has a thing to do with it, it could.
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