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The_Franz posted:people like biden, who have been tearing down the support systems while ushering in neoliberalism over the past 40+ years, are why you get people like trump to begin with
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:In real world impact, Biden has absolutely done more harm to the US and the world with regards to his part in the prison state and Middle East adventurism. Unfortunately this isn't the trolley that's in front of us. It's 'would trump do more damage in the next 4 years or would Biden". The past doesn't figure into it.
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Salt Fish posted:Unfortunately this isn't the trolley that's in front of us. It's 'would trump do more damage in the next 4 years or would Biden". The past doesn't figure into it. Christian ethnofascism isn’t going away just because Trump isn’t prez anymore.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Christian ethnofascism isn’t going away just because Trump isn’t prez anymore. Global warming is going to kill like 50% of the human population in the next 50-100 years but that doesn't absolve me from all political action.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Christian ethnofascism isn’t going away just because Trump isn’t prez anymore.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Christian ethnofascism isn’t going away just because Trump isn’t prez anymore. firefighter, standing in front of a burning oil refinery: "well it's good and going now, i don't see how turning off the gas lines would make a difference"
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Nov 1, 2020 20:26
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Salt Fish posted:Global warming is going to kill like 50% of the human population in the next 50-100 years but that doesn't absolve me from all political action. Trump is a symptom of a problem, the problem being 40% of Americans being fascist trash who want to kill the other 60% of America. That 40% can control the senate and the direction of the county indefinitely. Who holds the White House doesn’t matter. I’m not going to vote for a piece of poo poo when it doesn’t matter.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Christian ethnofascism isn’t going away just because Trump isn’t prez anymore. if anything, it will get worse as they feel marginalized and will push back even harder
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Sagebrush posted:firefighter, standing in front of a burning oil refinery: "well it's good and going now, i don't see how turning off the gas lines would make a difference" i think trump is not the fuel, but a weather vane telling us the wind is making the fires much worse. biden doesn't want to talk about the wind
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Nov 1, 2020 20:33
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psiox posted:yes, everything is absolutely identical in opposite ways Hey dude, just wanted to see if you wanted to defend your idiotic statement against people who think the architect of the prison state is racist.
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is moving to canada a bad option? i think i can swing it in my current company but i remember reading a couple takes back in 2016 that made me second guess it, like that it was just making the problem worse for others or something
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psiox posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you You are why people on either side of the spectrum hate liberals btw. “Vote for the guy who put one in four men you know in prison, because you have no other options you piece of poo poo”
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Beamed posted:is moving to canada a bad option? i think i can swing it in my current company but i remember reading a couple takes back in 2016 that made me second guess it, like that it was just making the problem worse for others or something pretty much every country is closed to non-citizens/non-permanent residents right now
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yeah lol that assumes that america will, uh, stop being a pariah state thanks to its covid cases
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Nov 1, 2020 20:51
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Salt Fish posted:This is just literally the trolley problem. I understand why you don't want to pull the lever but please at least understand why other people do.
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Nov 1, 2020 20:54
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If you aren’t out right now you never will be
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Nov 1, 2020 20:54
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Trump is a symptom of a problem, the problem being 40% of Americans being fascist trash who want to kill the other 60% of America. That 40% can control the senate and the direction of the county indefinitely. Who holds the White House doesn’t matter. iirc you admitted itt that you voted for biden, correct?
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I could see a blue texas but I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. “blue in the urban areas with book learning and red in the idiot coal dust and oil fume huffing parts” is just a general description of the US as a whole though.
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I refuse to address that statement.
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tori, you’ve gotta be just about the biggest and best rascal I’ve ever encountered.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Biden is measurably worse than trump
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Nov 1, 2020 21:03
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Biden is measurably worse than trump what has trump (or his admin) actually accomplished, basically. they obviously want to do a lot of comically evil things, but they’re also idiots. trump is one of the weakest presidents ever and it’s down to him having no loving clue what he’s doing lol
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Nov 1, 2020 21:10
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Infrastructure day
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Nomnom Cookie posted:what has trump (or his admin) actually accomplished, basically. they obviously want to do a lot of comically evil things, but they’re also idiots. trump is one of the weakest presidents ever and it’s down to him having no loving clue what he’s doing lol They ripped apart every government institution and laid the groundwork for a total fascist takeover of the united states. This is like saying "what has the water damage actually done to my house foundation". We're experiencing weimar-ification of america.
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Salt Fish posted:They ripped apart every government institution and laid the groundwork for a total fascist takeover of the united states. This is like saying "what has the water damage actually done to my house foundation". That isn’t Trump though. That’s the GOP in general. Trump is the sleight of hand distraction while they loot.
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i think trump is and would be significantly worse for average americans than biden, especially for minorities; the masses have fared better under dem presidents. i didn't vote for biden because i'm against hiring someone to help rebuild a house they helped burn down, and his policies are also not good (though better than trump of course), even setting aside all of his other detriments. probably would have in a swing state however, but i'd have been upset at that being the choice
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Nov 1, 2020 21:15
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:That isn’t Trump though. That’s the GOP in general. Trump is the sleight of hand distraction while they loot. if there is a silver lining to trump, it's that nobody except for conservative pundits are interested in protecting him, so they happily air all of the government's dirty laundry as opposed to, say, taking damning photos of those ice detention centers in 2014 and then not publishing them for years
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Salt Fish posted:They ripped apart every government institution and laid the groundwork for a total fascist takeover of the united states. This is like saying "what has the water damage actually done to my house foundation". ok. so you don’t actually have any impact metrics, just sentiment. doesn’t sound very reality-based to me tbh
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Nomnom Cookie posted:ok. so you don’t actually have any impact metrics, just sentiment. doesn’t sound very reality-based to me tbh Presidential KPIs
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President Trump resolved 16 issues this term with an average customer satisfaction rating of only 2.3 and a time-to-resolve of over 2 months.
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Salt Fish posted:Presidential KPIs Biden is beating the poo poo out of trump on people unjustly imprisoned
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it’s not fascist if I’m not personally affected, that’s just common sense. Biden 2020
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Beamed posted:is moving to canada a bad option? i think i can swing it in my current company but i remember reading a couple takes back in 2016 that made me second guess it, like that it was just making the problem worse for others or something it helps if you understand that canada is not necessarily better than the us in a lot of ways, we're just generally three to five years behind the american zeitgeist. we can and will see a cancon version of trumpism here in the next year or so, the new federal conservative party leader is already starting to make speeches advocating populist protectionism.
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it's a messed up choice though. so long as the gop continues to pursue policy that's so terrible, the dems are going to feel like they can just do whatever they want and we have to accept it, because the alternative is fascists and déclassé nazis
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Nomnom Cookie posted:ok. so you don’t actually have any impact metrics, just sentiment. doesn’t sound very reality-based to me tbh have you idiots not been paying attention to the supreme court do you think the peoples that republicans are putting on there are a good thing or a thing that will have no impact? you can’t be that dumb.
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:have you idiots not been paying attention to the supreme court Yeah, that game is already lost
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Yeah, that game is already lost 6 spots are filled with shitheads but thats not a reason to double down and have all 9 spots filled with shitheads. 4 more years of trump will make things worse than 4 years of lovely joe biden. that’s true considering the supreme court alone.
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