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Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
if you're a consultant milk lovely clients and give breaks to the good ones for a+ ethics points

one consulting gig i was at this was almost company policy lol. oil and gas clients got the expensive rate whereas work for local non-profits was done at a discount with fixed bid so no overruns

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Anything that isn't aimed at the destruction of all that you guys support is bad and you will go to hell for doing it. Hopefully before you die.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
note that the consultants themselves were salary and had 37.5 hr per week maximums so this wasn't coming out of our pockets directly

arguably we could have been earning more doing hourly work but we made more than the avg consultant so whatever

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOG57p7I_cM

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

rotor posted:

yeah, consulting isn't for me either but the idea that its somehow especially unethical seems weird to me

i don't know that it's particularly more unethical than most tech, but that's a part of it as well. also the ethical standards of the company i was working with when i was learning it were below my standards. sap is sort of ok software, but it seemed like it'd be mind numbing to configure systems for a job

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Broken Machine posted:

sap is sort of ok software

You are a person who has literally never used SAP to, you know, do anything.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

since nothing in SAP is good, i just dump raw data into excel and do 90% of poo poo in excel macros

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

i was being generous

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Sap is a trojan horse designed to extract consulting fees

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
erp work is absolutely mind numbing and i'm convinced that's half the reason it pays so well because it doesn't sound particularly hard or challenging from what i've heard

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Broken Machine posted:

i was being generous

trump is sort of an OK human

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

3D Megadoodoo posted:

trump is sort of an OK human

he emits carbon dioxide, which is needed by plants.

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
we used sap to track spare parts at a semiconductor fab i worked at.

it was fine. you could order parts and track inventory with it.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

rotor posted:

he emits carbon dioxide, which is needed by plants.

he'd charge them for it if he could though

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

rotor posted:

he emits carbon dioxide, which is needed by plants.

i asked the plants and they unanimously agreed that they don't want his carbon dioxide.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

we used sap to track spare parts at a semiconductor fab i worked at.

it was fine. you could order parts and track inventory with it.

seems like overkill, there are perfectly good and more affordable alternatives to a full erp for asset management but maybe you were using other sap modules vOv

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




SAP is the epitome of “computers do exactly what you tell them to” and I have never seen a Good implementation in my career

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

we used sap to track spare parts at a semiconductor fab i worked at.

it was fine. you could order parts and track inventory with it.

here's one example of why just in time manufacturing / distribution can be an issue

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/supply-chain/food-security-do-we-need-to-rethink-our-just-in-time-supply-chain-post-coronavirus/604872.article

with supply chain disruptions due to covid, and how closely they had everything timed, it's led to food disruptions and price spikes. sap supports that sort of on the brink thinking. everything is fine as long as nothing goes wrong, in exchange for more risk when things do. fine if you're just ordering things for work and it's not hugely time critical, potentially quite harmful if it is

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
the main benefit was keeping track of spares we had on site and spares that could be shipped on site within a 24 hr window for some critical robots and stuff. i think that was more that out sap was set up to work with the sap of various suppliers, but it let us do cost benefit of buying stuff and keeping it on site vs waiting until failure and buying one and paying for a chartered plane to deliver it from germany or whatever.

so yes a lot of just in time stuff but this was for computer chips.

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

on another subject, why i was reading this thread in the first place - here's a county level map of the us



middle america is not doing so well

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Surely you mean Real America

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Broken Machine posted:

on another subject, why i was reading this thread in the first place - here's a county level map of the us



middle america is not doing so well

Im the color scale, helpfully labeled with the names of the colors.

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Schadenboner posted:

Im the color scale, helpfully labeled with the names of the colors.

oh right yeah. the site has a scale, here. i was just framing the picture

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Broken Machine posted:

oh right yeah. the site has a scale, here. i was just framing the picture

I mean, to be fair, it is aimed at being understood by those in Middle America?

:shrug:

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Schadenboner posted:

Im the color scale, helpfully labeled with the names of the colors.

helps if you're colorblind

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!
Slippery Tilde

Broken Machine posted:

on another subject, why i was reading this thread in the first place - here's a county level map of the us



middle america is not doing so well

whoa look at all that risk

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

whoa look at all that risk

red is for the tipping point where urgent action / stay at home orders are needed, and essentially none of those states are doing that. i wonder if biden would dare to set minimum fed standards for the states?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Glorgnole posted:

helps if you're colorblind

YOSPOS will never think of minorities. I think it's in the rules.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Broken Machine posted:

red is for the tipping point where urgent action / stay at home orders are needed, and essentially none of those states are doing that. i wonder if biden would dare to set minimum fed standards for the states?

He could try but it will get struck down in the supreme court 6-3

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Glorgnole posted:

helps if you're colorblind

there’s a colorblind toggle in the upper right

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!
Slippery Tilde

Broken Machine posted:

red is for the tipping point where urgent action / stay at home orders are needed, and essentially none of those states are doing that. i wonder if biden would dare to set minimum fed standards for the states?

he's already said that he doesn't think the federal government even has the power to announce a mask mandate

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Midjack posted:

there’s a colorblind toggle in the upper right

:owned:

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

he's already said that he doesn't think the federal government even has the power to announce a mask mandate

he also said he'd listen to scientists, so i'm hopeful

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!
Slippery Tilde
well he's already not listening to the scientists when he assured everyone that he definitely will not be banning fracking

also lol

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1322254443644026880

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
lovely oils price and Putin’s panic-selling is already accomplishing that, though?

E: below 40 for brent :laffo:

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

well he's already not listening to the scientists when he assured everyone that he definitely will not be banning fracking

also lol

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1322254443644026880

oh. yeah poo poo you're right we're in pretty bad shape then, lol. rip

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!
Slippery Tilde
yeah it's p frustrating

loving old people

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

yeah it's p frustrating

loving old people

well, you could always stop

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
:boom:

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EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
it sure would be nice to have someone not from 1942 to vote for for as president in 2020

here’s hoping he’ll die in office and we can mix it up a bit after that

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