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sirtommygunn posted:I'm a bodyguard, I went to protect Bif nights 1 and 3, and taste on night 2. slightly less confident of Hal's towniness now taste was BP, how would scum have known to use a juggernug ability on him unless they had deduced that through Hal?
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Sandwolf posted:slightly less confident of Hal's towniness now Taste and I never shared roles, only flavor, I would not have guessed Glory Girl was BP... I mean obviously you can't know that but we did talk about it to some extent in the thread.
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Nov 3, 2020 01:30
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Hal Incandenza posted:Taste and I never shared roles, only flavor, I would not have guessed Glory Girl was BP... fair enough, but the question remains (unless of course they just have juggernug as a matter of design)
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Nov 3, 2020 01:30
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Sandwolf posted:binus' claim was super bad, he has nothing to claim now but maybe tomorrow? feels bad STG did not need to claim  I already thought he was plenty cleared by the busdriver fiasco no matter what he had
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Nov 3, 2020 01:36
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How does juggernaut interact with bodyguard anyway? Would they just go through my block or kill both of us or just me?
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Nov 3, 2020 01:36
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sirtommygunn posted:How does juggernaut interact with bodyguard anyway? Would they just go through my block or kill both of us or just me? Bifauxnen posted:STG did not need to claim you're probably right, that was premature of me to ask, I felt like maybe a rolecop was hiding out in the unclaimed (i'm still kinda confused how scum knew to juggernug the BP guy)
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Nov 3, 2020 01:37
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sirtommygunn posted:How does juggernaut interact with bodyguard anyway? Would they just go through my block or kill both of us or just me? I would guess it would just bypass you but I'm not a mod
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Nov 3, 2020 01:37
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sirtommygunn posted:How does juggernaut interact with bodyguard anyway? Would they just go through my block or kill both of us or just me? I have to say it's funny that N2 Taste was Bulletproof, doctored AND bodyguarded. Wish they had juggernauted him that night that would be epic
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Nov 3, 2020 01:39
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Sandwolf posted:slightly less confident of Hal's towniness now So you basically know I was jailed last night if your claim is true, so you think Tommu jailed his scumbro?
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Nov 3, 2020 01:40
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Nov 3, 2020 01:41
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Hal Incandenza posted:So you basically know I was jailed last night if your claim is true, so you think Tommu jailed his scumbro? oh yeah, no, I don't, good point
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Nov 3, 2020 01:43
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Hal Incandenza posted:So you basically know I was jailed last night if your claim is true, so you think Tommu jailed his scumbro? Yami Fenrir posted:Should you target one of your teammates with this ability, they will not be roleblocked, but remain protected. I do.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:19
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Sandwolf posted:Amni also only having a daytime messaging role feels really bizarre. Not all to my role. I am also a watcher. At least one of the people claiming valuable town roles is legit, so I don't feel bad claiming. N1 targetted Bif, got results I shared with her (4 people visited + me) it was solus, ASF, Scientastic and STG. N2 I targetted Referee my action failed. I assumed I was roleblocked and informed Bif as much. N3 I targetted bif again, let them know that STG and Sal visited them.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:27
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STG is basically confirmed town to me, based on what I've seen of night actions and the ASF bus. Obama and Bif are basically confirmed town to me because of the ASF Cult thing (Or they're both scum and holy poo poo is that a gambit, but it seems unlikely) 1 of Sandwolf and DB is scum. I think it's Sandwolf, and if it's not we kill DB tommorrow. I don't believe there is a framer AND a busdriver AND a jailer on the scum team. that means there is 1 more scum left between Sal/Hal/Binus/Ref. I don't think that scum would use a nightvig to kill one of their own, so probbaly not ref. So, kill sandwolf today. If DB is telling the truth and they flip town, then we have 1 of 3 targets to kill, with 5 town left, pretty good chances. If DB was lying, then we kill him tommorrow and it means that Sal is cleared and we have 1 of 2 targets to kill with 4 town left. Math says we've got this game.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:32
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Amnistar posted:I do. Oh interesting, I suppose that could be a thing then. I doubt yami would accidentally tell sandwolf I went nowhere then realize he should change that to I couldn't be found if in reality I could go someplace but I know that isn't conclusive Are you saying then that you think that is what happened?
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Nov 3, 2020 02:32
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Amnistar posted:Not all to my role. I am also a watcher. At least one of the people claiming valuable town roles is legit, so I don't feel bad claiming. These are indeed the messages I got!
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Nov 3, 2020 02:33
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Hal Incandenza posted:Oh interesting, I suppose that could be a thing then. I think it's possible, yes. I think the "went nowhere" thing wasn't a mod mistake and was a fumbled claim on Sandwolf's part.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:33
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Amnistar posted:STG is basically confirmed town to me, based on what I've seen of night actions and the ASF bus. Hmmm not sure I agree there cant be a framer, busdriver and jailer, those are all pretty distinct roles and it is a role madness game. Not convinced there is by any means, but it doesn't seem out of the question. I just don't see DB breadcrumbing that he copped me D2 as a fake-out. I also have a hard time thinking that Sandwolf made up the Yami correction bit and I can't see why he would use a track on me if he knew I was being jailed.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:36
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Hal Incandenza posted:Hmmm not sure I agree there cant be a framer, busdriver and jailer, those are all pretty distinct roles and it is a role madness game. Not convinced there is by any means, but it doesn't seem out of the question. I don't think scum yami tracked you.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:37
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Amnistar posted:I don't think scum yami tracked you. ...scum sandwolf.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:38
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Amnistar posted:I think it's possible, yes. I think the "went nowhere" thing wasn't a mod mistake and was a fumbled claim on Sandwolf's part. I get that, but I also thought that it wasn't possible for a mod to make an error like that in a recent game and figured the person who said it was scum and naturally it turned out to be real and they were town
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Nov 3, 2020 02:38
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Amnistar posted:...scum sandwolf. Yeah, I wish he had said that before I claimed to be blocked. I do in general think Sandwolf is the more likely scum, I really just don't like the "well if he isn't scum then we just do DB tomorrow"
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Nov 3, 2020 02:39
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there is absolutely a small, but not insignificant chance, that both DB and I are town but I sure as hell don't want to be around to have to figure that out
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Nov 3, 2020 02:40
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lol I think taste was right and it does have to be binus, I agree Ref probably wouldn't have vigged a teammate as scum, I largely agree with most other claims here, *could* still be Amni I think, but, a watcher than can announce his results to a player is extremely high utility as town
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Nov 3, 2020 02:42
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Hal Incandenza posted:Yeah, I wish he had said that before I claimed to be blocked. Let's say we do that, and we're wrong. currently at 10 -> Sandwolf + nightkil = 8. DB+nightking = 6. 6 with 2 sum left alive. Scum would have to kill Sal, who copped town, and one of STG/Obama/Bif. That leaves 2 of Obama/Bif/STG Referee, myself, you and binus. At that point we kill binus and you, because that's clearly the scum team, and we win.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:43
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why is obama confirmed? 'doublevoter' isn't an awesome town role
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Nov 3, 2020 02:46
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Sandwolf posted:why is obama confirmed? 'doublevoter' isn't an awesome town role Obama was already in the masonry with Bif when ASF claimed to the "cult" that he was scum.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:48
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Amnistar posted:Obama was already in the masonry with Bif when ASF claimed to the "cult" that he was scum. hmm, could it not have been a 4D thinking move?
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Nov 3, 2020 02:49
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The only flaw I see that's feesable is if Obama/Bif are running some kind of crazy gambit and sacrificed ASF.
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Nov 3, 2020 02:49
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Amnistar posted:The only flaw I see that's feesable is if Obama/Bif are running some kind of crazy gambit and sacrificed ASF. that'd be awesome but I did also think Bif's reason for relative disagreement early on made sense
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Ok I’ve been thinking about it and while I’m not gonna fullclaim, I will say if you are town you definitely want to visit me. If you are scum, then lol visit at your own risk. No I don’t have a killing ability. Nothing will happen to you by visiting me. But I think we can break this game open by tomorrow
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Nov 3, 2020 03:41
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Sandwolf posted:there is absolutely a small, but not insignificant chance, that both DB and I are town but I sure as hell don't want to be around to have to figure that out This is very unlikely imho
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Nov 3, 2020 03:41
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Amnistar posted:Let's say we do that, and we're wrong. Mhm yes somehow I just don't agree
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I’ll add the new information to the spreadsheet and see if I can puzzle out who’s lying in the morning. I do feel reasonably confident we can at least narrow it down to a winning position though.
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b-minus1 posted:Ok I’ve been thinking about it and while I’m not gonna fullclaim, I will say if you are town you definitely want to visit me. If you are scum, then lol visit at your own risk. No I don’t have a killing ability. Nothing will happen to you by visiting me. But I think we can break this game open by tomorrow So you aren’t going to full claim but you expect us to believe that nothing bad will happen if we visit you?
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ObamaAkbar. posted:So you aren’t going to full claim but you expect us to believe that nothing bad will happen if we visit you? Agreed. This is bad.
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Nov 3, 2020 13:44
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ObamaAkbar. posted:So you aren’t going to full claim but you expect us to believe that nothing bad will happen if we visit you? Yep
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When in doubt, ##vote Sandwolf
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Nov 3, 2020 15:08
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Really glad we’re stretching this out more. I humbly request you kill binus after DB. Then maybe Amnistar, but I won’t request that one.
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Sandwolf posted:Really glad we’re stretching this out more. I humbly request you kill binus after DB. Then maybe Amnistar, but I won’t request that one. I have laid out how we win as town. DB is the next in line of youflip town.
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