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Source4Leko posted:Boomers hate medicine from doctors but will take any supplement someone off the radio sells them. One weird trick, doctors hate it!
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Nov 2, 2020 21:30
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Who needs medicine when you have essential oils and colloidal silver?
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Nov 2, 2020 21:37
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Despite them being extremely silly for owning those books I'm glad my in-laws actually listen to their doctors and take covid PPE seriously. They've complained about a lot of their friends and acquaintances being really dumb about covid.
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Nov 2, 2020 21:40
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I wonder what kind of crazy infowars supplements my parents are taking to stave off corona and not have to wear masks.
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Nov 3, 2020 01:20
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Soylent Pudding posted:Who needs medicine when you have essential oils and colloidal silver? Replace all colloidal silver with arsenic.
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Nov 3, 2020 01:21
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e.pilot posted:I wonder what kind of crazy infowars supplements my parents are taking to stave off corona and not have to wear masks. Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise.
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Nov 3, 2020 01:46
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Dr.Caligari posted:Boomers on Facebook , who then reach an audience of younger people who mainly associate with boomers for whatever reasons, have assured parts of this mind set will continue . I know way too many people around my age (late 30s) who think ‘working harder’ or ‘sucking it up’ are the best remedy for any mental ailment . Also , setting a kid in a corner or belting them is what kids these days need. Back when I was a failing graphic designer, a Gen-X friend of mine posted about how lovely the job market is for different professions in America, so I added my own experience of trying to get paid work as a graphic designer and consistently getting work that ‘looks great on your CV’ or being paid in ‘exposure’ rather than any money. A boomer friend of his told me to go back to college, which I didn’t have the money to do. He then told me to work harder, which I told him I was already working as hard as I could. Neither of those things parsed with him, so he then told me I should just kill myself. My Gen-X friend told him to gently caress off and blocked him.
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Nov 3, 2020 03:48
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Any of you got Boomers in your life on suicide watch, pending tomorrow's election results?
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Nov 3, 2020 03:52
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E: Eh no not saying that
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Nov 3, 2020 03:53
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I think most boomerisms are just conservative dogma. That's definitely wormed its way into younger brains via Peterson and Shapiro.
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Nov 3, 2020 03:58
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Iron Crowned posted:One weird trick, doctors hate it! That actually works on my dad not even kidding a little bit. He actually clicks on banner ads on purpose sometimes.
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Nov 3, 2020 04:46
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Batterypowered7 posted:Replace all colloidal silver with arsenic. Colloidal silver is actually great in wound dressings bc it's antimicrobial
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Nov 3, 2020 05:05
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Anyone else's dad want to lead the revolution against the socialists but can't shoo without a scooter
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Nov 3, 2020 05:06
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Batterypowered7 posted:Any of you got Boomers in your life on suicide watch, pending tomorrow's election results? No. Just a bingo card.
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Nov 3, 2020 05:41
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It's just a hoax, they'll gasp from their hospital beds. My county has thankfully had very few cases. It's a mixed blessing, because if we did start having serious cases per day, poo poo would spread like wildfire. I think the worst thing in life is to wear your PPE, avoid gatherings like the plague, and then get COVID-19 from some stupid rear end in a top hat who refuses to take precautions because Fox News has inculcated their thinking from logic or reason.
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Nov 3, 2020 05:48
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dee eight posted:i told a chud at my last job that i'd rather see a thousand people abuse the system than one needy person slip through the cracks. he brought up reagan's "welfare queens" and i said more power to em, gently caress you and gently caress reagan. The story of the actual lady he based his "welfare queen" story on is loving bananas. The fact that he used her as an example of anything is total bullshit because she was a complete psychopath. But obviously that's a feature not a bug. Here's a short article about her: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/20/255819681/the-truth-behind-the-lies-of-the-original-welfare-queen Kenning posted:Nursing is one of the few pathways for working class people into a professional job with benefits and good compensation. It's a relatively short educational program, there's a certification, and then there are lots of jobs. It's not based on social position or who you know, you just have to check the boxes and do the work and you can actually make a decent living. It's also, especially at the lower levels, a fairly mechanical thing – you learn your specialty, and you just do the things you've learned how to do. One day I was telling my psychiatrist about my lovely primary care doctor and explained to me why a lot of doctors are so lovely and dispassionate. Basically what happens is they go through medical school and when it comes time for their residency they have to pick a field. And what happens there is a lot of them realize they don't like what they're training to do but realize this too late. So they just become doctors who don't give much of a gently caress.
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Nov 3, 2020 06:45
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CPL593H posted:One day I was telling my psychiatrist about my lovely primary care doctor and explained to me why a lot of doctors are so lovely and dispassionate. Basically what happens is they go through medical school and when it comes time for their residency they have to pick a field. And what happens there is a lot of them realize they don't like what they're training to do but realize this too late. So they just become doctors who don't give much of a gently caress.
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Nov 3, 2020 08:32
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Free college + medicare for all is the one-two punch we need.
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Nov 3, 2020 08:42
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My grandmother had some of those Kevin Trudeau books. I picked one up and leafed through it one day at her house and read a section claiming that no new cures for disease or vaccines had been developed since the Polio vaccine because [insert conspiracy theory]. I pointed out to my grandmother how this was a lie and explained how smallpox was eradicated. Sadly her answer was something like "well I find his books interesting, I like them" and not "hey you have a point, this author is a crank."
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Nov 3, 2020 10:40
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Andro Dunos posted:Sadly her answer was something like "well I find his books interesting, I like them" and not "hey you have a point, this author is a crank." That would require a boomer to admit they were wrong, which you must never do under any circumstances (see: president)
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Nov 3, 2020 16:01
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bob dobbs is dead posted:emdr has rcts and proper reviews and poo poo and and a moderate amount of evidence to say it works but if you tell a rando what it actually is you will kinda sound like a crazy person I’ve done it and it’s helped me more than anything.
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Nov 3, 2020 16:05
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i know, its not unevidenced cbt sounds like less of a crazy person thing, unless its cock and balls torture bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 3, 2020 |
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Nov 3, 2020 17:15
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Cold on a Cob posted:Hell, there are a shitload of doctors that just happen to be really good at memorizing stuff, following procedure, etc that promote snake oil because outside of certain pioneering specialists they tend to just be glorified body technicians. They're far more dangerous imo. I know the common understanding of PhD.s is 'not real doctors', but for someone who is not considered to be as authoritative as an MD, the same people also call me elitist when I explain that I actually had to like, do original research and defend it. I didn't just memorize some leg-bone-connected-to-the-hip-bone anatomy by rote, as well as some vulgate latin to obfuscate that fact to people outside my closed guild. Couldn't be happier that I've seen them go in my not-so-long lifetime from independent skilled petty bougieoise workers to debt-saddled peons to an HMO who need to account for every minute of their working day as stringently as I did when I worked in a factory that made you clock out for a piss break. Surgeons have real skill and deserve respect, but then again a lot of it is manual dexterity and basketball player or safecracker or pianist are somehow not shorthand for genius like 'brain surgeon'. Could be wrong! Some surgeon on here tell me how I'm up my rear end on this one! I find PhD's who refer to themselves as 'Dr. So-and-so' massively pretentious, and therefore don't*, and due to my upbringing and accent and dress sense unless people know where I work or what I do they'd be excused for thinking I'm a junior attendant at a junkyard. But it does occasionally come up and I always make sure to explain that I'm a 'PhD Doctor, not a finger-up-the-butt doctor'. *The one time I broke that rule was right after I defended. "MISTER Pip, is my father. Please, call me DOCTOR Pip." and yes, I did that to goof on my dad who was there and yes I had to put a friend up to it because why would anyone call me Mister Pip at that particular moment. I'm not above being super lame to tee up a dad-joke. PipHelix fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Nov 3, 2020 |
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Nov 3, 2020 18:02
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never trust an md to do science two md's have independently attempted to publish the trapezoid rule as an original contribution to mathematics two centuries after it was discovered
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Nov 3, 2020 18:08
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bob dobbs is dead posted:never trust an md to do science plz append "or handle their own finances or fly aircraft" to this list
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Nov 3, 2020 18:35
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in many languages, 'doctor' is generally reserved for those with a phd and there are separate words for medical professionals
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Nov 3, 2020 18:46
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PipHelix posted:I find PhD's who refer to themselves as 'Dr. So-and-so' massively pretentious, and therefore don't*, and due to my upbringing and accent and dress sense unless people know where I work or what I do they'd be excused for thinking I'm a junior attendant at a junkyard. But it does occasionally come up and I always make sure to explain that I'm a 'PhD Doctor, not a finger-up-the-butt doctor'. In my experience in academia the white, cis, straight male professors make a big deal about how "Its just a title" and "Just call me by my first name" because for them, it is a largely performative gesture. They are not accustomed to not being deferred to as authorities - even when they are not. What I'm trying to say is that when a minority asserts their title its because they can't afford not to - its damned hard to be taken seriously otherwise.
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Nov 3, 2020 19:19
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Just found out my boomer father owns a tux-tshirt and occasionally wears it ironically to parties. He never has more than two beers and his wife is quite proper. I don't know how to parse this.
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Nov 3, 2020 19:19
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Dienes posted:In my experience in academia the white, cis, straight male professors make a big deal about how "Its just a title" and "Just call me by my first name" because for them, it is a largely performative gesture. They are not accustomed to not being deferred to as authorities - even when they are not. Someone once told me the refusal of white America to address them with the socially expected honorifics is why so many African Americans ended up with honorific names like Duke or Princess.
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Nov 3, 2020 19:21
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bob dobbs is dead posted:never trust an md to do science This tracks precisely with my experience desperately trying to teach basic calc/physics to pre-med students. Most mulishly stupid students I've ever encountered in my entirely STEM-biased academic life. That they worked out a mathematical theorem independently is actually kind of impressive. It speaks to enthusiasm and skill, if a total lack of background and perspective. Reach exceeds grasp and all that. Dienes posted:In my experience in academia the white, cis, straight male professors make a big deal about how "Its just a title" and "Just call me by my first name" because for them, it is a largely performative gesture. They are not accustomed to not being deferred to as authorities - even when they are not. In my experience it's mostly been whites of reduced circumstances waving their title around like a penniless squire. One highschool English teacher who at least had a PhD in English and one, hilariously, Chemistry PhD who taught ESL with me in Asia, also known as the last refuge of the scoundrel with a passport. My experience is likely due to the almost complete absence of non-whites in my particular STEM field, so I haven't had that convo. It's usually some rando out in the world. As far as the performativity, I was raised poor, and maybe it's partly inferiority complex, but it's definitely having seen the whole system from tip to tail that it's kind of a sham facade. The literal stupidest person I have ever met, has a PhD in plasma physics from an Ivy League University. And I'd never keep up with the dude but I'm certain he's the kind of person who insists of being called *DOCTOR* Blank. I really cringe in normal conversation at bringing it up unless it's absolutely necessary and lose a lot of respect instantly for people who lead with it. E: Basically, unless someone needs an exegesis on Faulkner, or a turbine designed, or like, some property about prime numbers proven here, at this bar, your PhD is completely meaningless and you've got no more standing than any other normal person. Work functions, maybe, but again, everyone has a PhD so there's no need for pecking-order buttsniffing. Maybe I'm lucky? That makes sense though about minorities, and while I can't recall a specific instance I'm sure I've run across a POC insisting on a title and judged them according to a system I've calibrated on pompous whites. I'll try to recall in the future who they're trying to reach with that, and why they're doing it. Content: Boomers don't understand why kids love the great taste of Apple Jacks... even though it doesn't taste like apples!? PipHelix fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 3, 2020 |
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Nov 3, 2020 20:31
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Cold on a Cob posted:Hell, there are a shitload of doctors that just happen to be really good at memorizing stuff, following procedure, etc that promote snake oil because outside of certain pioneering specialists they tend to just be glorified body technicians. They're far more dangerous imo. Good at memorizing stuff... except their password or how to use the EMR they've been using for 5 years at that point.
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Nov 3, 2020 20:50
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dee eight posted:i told a chud at my last job that i'd rather see a thousand people abuse the system than one needy person slip through the cracks. he brought up reagan's "welfare queens" and i said more power to em, gently caress you and gently caress reagan. ive told many boomers the same thing and also ide rather see noone arrested then 1 person wrongly arrested and put in jail.
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Nov 3, 2020 21:01
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PipHelix posted:This tracks precisely with my experience desperately trying to teach basic calc/physics to pre-med students. Most mulishly stupid students I've ever encountered in my entirely STEM-biased academic life. That they worked out a mathematical theorem independently is actually kind of impressive. It speaks to enthusiasm and skill, if a total lack of background and perspective. Reach exceeds grasp and all that. To be clear - I wasn't saying you are doing this. Just that "Anyone who insists that their title be used in professional contexts is being pretentious" is an opinion you're taught by folks who still have plenty of authority when they give up one title. BIPOC people might not even speak up when they are mis-titled not because they don't care, but because that is a great way to be branded as 'uppity.' A lot of it is unconscious. I've seen plenty of symposiums with mixed speakers, and somehow its always the women and BIPOC folk who have their titles dropped on introductions. Nothing like the four 60yo white dudes before you being referred to as Dr. and then you're referred to as 'young miss" in front of a crowd of hundreds of people...when you're the foremost expert on the topic and the invited speaker. Anywho, content. Boomers love telling you how old they are as a weird appeal to authority.
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Nov 3, 2020 21:10
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snergle posted:ive told many boomers the same thing and also ide rather see noone arrested then 1 person wrongly arrested and put in jail. Not a Boomer, but I did have a conservative dude argue that the death penalty is actually cool and good because it serves as a deterrent for a criminal to try to drag a case out [by being more likely to take a deal and plead guilty] and that the victim's family can get justice more quickly as a result. No consideration given to the innocent people who likely take those same deals to avoid dying without having committed the crime.
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Nov 3, 2020 21:10
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Batterypowered7 posted:Not a Boomer, but I did have a conservative dude argue that the death penalty is actually cool and good because it serves as a deterrent for a criminal to try to drag a case out [by being more likely to take a deal and plead guilty] and that the victim's family can get justice more quickly as a result. No consideration given to the innocent people who likely take those same deals to avoid dying without having committed the crime. People like this always short circuit when you tell them that there has yet to be any evidence that the death penalty is a crime deterrent.
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Nov 3, 2020 21:45
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CPL593H posted:People like this always short circuit when you tell them that there has yet to be any evidence that the death penalty is a crime deterrent. It's a deterrent against being black :/
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Nov 3, 2020 21:58
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CPL593H posted:People like this always short circuit when you tell them that there has yet to be any evidence that the death penalty is a crime deterrent. They won't admit the cruelty is the point.
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Nov 3, 2020 22:12
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Source4Leko posted:They won't admit the cruelty is the point. Like a decade ago I remember watching a documentary about some UK MP who was pro death penalty but after reading a news report about a botched execution went on a quest to find a more humane and reliable method. At the end he finally settled on nitrogen asphyxiation and was shocked that his fellow death penalty supporters rejected it as unjust and unfair to the condemned's victims because it was too quick and painless.
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Nov 3, 2020 22:15
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Soylent Pudding posted:Like a decade ago I remember watching a documentary about some UK MP who was pro death penalty but after reading a news report about a botched execution went on a quest to find a more humane and reliable method. At the end he finally settled on nitrogen asphyxiation and was shocked that his fellow death penalty supporters rejected it as unjust and unfair to the condemned's victims because it was too quick and painless. The death penalty should be a 'this person absolutely 100% poses a risk to society with zero chance of rehabilitation or opportunity to benefit society in any form'. So applicable to a virtually negligible number of standard death row inmates. Applicable to many of the the 1%.
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Outrail posted:The death penalty should be a 'this person absolutely 100% poses a risk to society with zero chance of rehabilitation or opportunity to benefit society in any form'. So applicable to a virtually negligible number of standard death row inmates. Applicable to many of the the 1%. The US prison system is an atrocity but I do agree that some people are so dangerous that they need to be kept away from everyone. Serial killers, serial rapists, child molesters, etc. I think that much can be agreed upon. The problem is is that our culture deems (black) people who commit non-violent crimes as bad as the former. The state should never have the power to kill people. For any reason.
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