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dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Powered Descent posted:

Assuming most of these VPN users are working from home, what's stopping them from just... using their own personal computer (or tablet, phone, or whatever they prefer) for non-work stuff? You know, the one they use when they aren't working. Why ask for exceptions in the company filters so as to do their Facebook fuckery on their work laptop specifically? They're at home, they can set things up on their desk however they like, and the boss isn't going to sneak up behind them and catch them looking at the wrong screen.

Like, for me to go back and forth between my work laptop and my shitposting station, I just rotate my chair 90 degrees. It works great.

Absolutely nothing, but...

LethalGeek posted:

People are incredibly lazy and privileged

This.

Rooted Vegetable posted:

I'm going to turn this question round to answer it: Thread of IT people, does anyone actually give a poo poo to use any of the listed items to actually try to intercept anyone's banking?

No, lol, hell of an ethical failure and a good way to lose a job.

orange juche posted:

That would be an ethics violation to be sure. However, most corporate login splash screens display a warning that things done on the computer will be audited, and monitoring of network traffic will occur. Usually this includes deep packet inspection, which could certainly scoop someone's banking information. Still a very very bad idea and nobody here who wants to keep a job would ever admit to intentionally seeking such information.

We will absolutely monitor everything you do, though and if our systems do get hacked yeah your banking information might go out in the data a hacker would attempt to obtain, so maybe don't log into your bank on the work pc. Depending on the company, they may block webmail or banking sites to prevent the temptation of workers to do personal business on company machines, but that was more common in the past, less common now.

Yeah, the splash screen warning at logon exists to cover the rear end of the org if someone whines about their personal data showing up in a logfile used to prove that they did Bad Things With Computers while at work, using org-owned equipment.

The only time someone's actually going to go digging around in user network logs is if it actually needs to be done.

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Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
What's the best way to make sure I stay active on teams?

I use a kvm to shitpost. Since work computer is a laptop, I occasionally reach over and boop the touchpad, but I'm lazy.

Impotence
Nov 8, 2010
Lipstick Apathy
usb mouse jiggler connected to the laptop, though it might report/detect device characteristics depending on your device management solution? alternatively, a normal usb mouse but with something weird/moving under it? i have a wireless mouse on top of my portable AC and it shakes just enough to never sleep

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

KVM and not letting a computer idle is partly why my personal poo poo showed up at work. I also worked around this by using an overpriced gaming headset with programble buttons to simplify hit Space when I'd remember to. Mainly between 🏈 plays when I ran into the TV room to watch such.

Besides a jiggler idk what else would work honestly. Not without some human input.

Hargrimm
Sep 22, 2011

W A R R E N
An Autohotkey/AutoIT script that just runs on a loop to click an empty spot in the Teams window every minute does the trick just fine. Together with a Launchy shortcut, it's a couple keystrokes to keep me active whenever I know I'm going turn away from the work machine for any length of time

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



I remember a coworker using this to keep his computer from going to the screen saver and locking: https://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Hargrimm posted:

An Autohotkey/AutoIT script that just runs on a loop to click an empty spot in the Teams window every minute does the trick just fine. Together with a Launchy shortcut, it's a couple keystrokes to keep me active whenever I know I'm going turn away from the work machine for any length of time
Just have teams and outlook open and set AHK to alt+tab every few seconds?

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
Hmm

Seems like a lot of work to hide what I'm doing to a group of people who are doing the same exact thing.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

There's a small portable app called MouseJiggler that imperceptibly shifts the mouse pointer a few pixels and back every x seconds. I've used it for years because I don't like enforced screensaver timeouts.

https://archive.codeplex.com/?p=mousejiggler

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
There's always the classic.
https://i.imgur.com/ehK5LII.gifv

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I have resigned myself to shitposting in four minute chunks.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Rooted Vegetable posted:

I'm going to turn this question round to answer it: Thread of IT people, does anyone actually give a poo poo to use any of the listed items to actually try to intercept anyone's banking?

Logs are data that could be exposed in a breach. So if you're doing all your banking through a Palo Alto (and others), which MITMs your SSL sessions with an internal cert, and with audit logging, etc, a lot of your information will be sitting in a splunk indexer, potentially somewhere out in AWS.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

dragonshardz posted:

Split tunnel ist verboten. State/department policy.

Most of the poo poo we block at the firewall level is known malicious domains, with a leavening of porn and game sites.

What kind of nutjob place do you work at? I deal with state governments all the time for police networks and even they let us enable split tunneling in certain areas. Your department policy sounds dumb.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Renegret posted:

What's the best way to make sure I stay active on teams?

I use a kvm to shitpost. Since work computer is a laptop, I occasionally reach over and boop the touchpad, but I'm lazy.

Powershell script that presses F15 once a minute.
https://gist.github.com/jcefoli/66dd9e0cdf865a43175d0d48d272b25a

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



AlexDeGruven posted:

Logs are data that could be exposed in a breach. So if you're doing all your banking through a Palo Alto (and others), which MITMs your SSL sessions with an internal cert, and with audit logging, etc, a lot of your information will be sitting in a splunk indexer, potentially somewhere out in AWS.

Yeah it's pretty much this, nobody in your corp IT is likely to try to steal your data, we like to keep our jobs after all. However, when a hacker does hack your corporate network and exposes data from your network, your personal information will be exposed if you were logging in to your bank etc on the corp network. You don't want that. Don't make yourself a bigger target basically.

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



USB Forensic Mouse Jiggler: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MTZY7Y4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RBxOFb9Y0GP9D?psc=1

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


orange juche posted:

Yeah it's pretty much this, nobody in your corp IT is likely to try to steal your data, we like to keep our jobs after all. However, when a hacker does hack your corporate network and exposes data from your network, your personal information will be exposed if you were logging in to your bank etc on the corp network. You don't want that. Don't make yourself a bigger target basically.

I'm blanking at remembering it off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure one of the big malware strains, emotet maybe?, has an option to harvest login credentials for banks, webmail etc before detonating any other payloads.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

orange juche posted:

Yeah it's pretty much this, nobody in your corp IT is likely to try to steal your data, we like to keep our jobs after all. However, when a hacker does hack your corporate network and exposes data from your network, your personal information will be exposed if you were logging in to your bank etc on the corp network. You don't want that. Don't make yourself a bigger target basically.
In practice people see how much data is generated by this and go "how many gigabytes? Eight hours of visibility is enough, right?" and then you can't figure out what happened at 7PM last night when you get in at 9AM. I genuinely would not give a gently caress about it, because if anything happens there are multiple other layers of defence and ways to remediate compromise for my personal stuff.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


I have an autohotkey script that every 4.5 minutes moves the mouse one pixel left and then back one pixel right.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

I like the one tHat presses shift every 59 secoNds.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Arquinsiel posted:

In practice people see how much data is generated by this and go "how many gigabytes? Eight hours of visibility is enough, right?" and then you can't figure out what happened at 7PM last night when you get in at 9AM. I genuinely would not give a gently caress about it, because if anything happens there are multiple other layers of defence and ways to remediate compromise for my personal stuff.

"We need to do command-line auditing of the entire environment!"

*Turns on audit logging for 25,000+ server instances and 30,000+ desktops and laptops shipping everything to Splunk*

Splunk: hey, so, about your licensing...

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

AlexDeGruven posted:

"We need to do command-line auditing of the entire environment!"

*Turns on audit logging for 25,000+ server instances and 30,000+ desktops and laptops shipping everything to Splunk*

Splunk: hey, so, about your licensing...
I am aware of someone who does this. I've seen one of their datacenters. They do redundancy by floor.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Some companies just don't care about the money if they get the results the want/need, and that can including hoovering everything that comes near.

I'm aware of one colo DC that hoovers data off their guest network, so even your own devices can be iffy

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


RFC2324 posted:

Some companies just don't care about the money if they get the results the want/need, and that can including hoovering everything that comes near.

I'm aware of one colo DC that hoovers data off their guest network, so even your own devices can be iffy

Yeah, nobody actually gives a gently caress about the data, just that it's getting collected.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

RFC2324 posted:

I like the one tHat presses shift every 59 secoNds.

:golfclap:

RFC2324 posted:

I'm aware of one colo DC that hoovers data off their guest network, so even your own devices can be iffy

Lol just lol if you don't jump on a VPN any time you use someone else's wifi

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

BaseballPCHiker posted:

What kind of nutjob place do you work at? I deal with state governments all the time for police networks and even they let us enable split tunneling in certain areas. Your department policy sounds dumb.

A state department that only this year implemented a VPN, even though there have been computers spread out across the whole state for decades.

Yeah.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


RFC2324 posted:

I like the one tHat presses shift every 59 secoNds.

Do you have a disability that prevents you from typing faster than 4 WPM?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

The Fool posted:

Do you have a disability that prevents you from typing faster than 4 WPM?

Have you seen his her posts?

GreenNight fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Nov 3, 2020

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Weatherman posted:

:golfclap:


Lol just lol if you don't jump on a VPN any time you use someone else's wifi
Very different kind of "guest network"...

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Arquinsiel posted:

Very different kind of "guest network"...

You mean you don't trust the open wifi AP labelled "FBI Surveillance Van"?

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer
My 5GHz network is "theCIAdid5G" so :shrug:

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.
mine's "5G COVID TRANSMITTER"

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

GreenNight posted:

Have you seen his posts?

Oof.

Also, her

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Canuck-Errant posted:

My 5GHz network is "theCIAdid5G" so :shrug:

Flowers By Irene is mine; think I got that from someone in one of these threads.

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



I just use 'xfinitywifi' so I can scrape all the connection requests

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




MF_James posted:

Flowers By Irene is mine; think I got that from someone in one of these threads.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
This is exactly why my phone's hotspot is this. Gets a laugh when I am on client site and someone notices the rogue AP. If they notice it.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

RFC2324 posted:

I like the one tHat presses shift every 59 secoNds.
I use one that presses Ctrl every one or t

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Make one that presses altgr randomly.

Live dangerously.

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Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Arquinsiel posted:

Make one that presses altgr randomly.

Live dang€rously.

FTFY :sun:

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