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I love how prescient/accurate the shots of Bert turning off his TV to ignore the reality of the election (or the office turning theirs off to hang onto the feeling of Nixon winning) in "Nixon vs. Kennedy" is right now in 2020.
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sebmojo posted:the Red Mowing If that moment gets spoiled for you, I think your enjoyment of the show is ruined, imo. To bring this back to "Nixon vs. Kennedy": Cosgrove chasing Allison at the office party loving creeps me out and gives me an awful horror-like feeling... *cough* Also, their party punch is probably the worst punch of all time, lol. MoaM fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 22:03
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I'm surprised it made the cut honestly
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Nov 4, 2020 22:05
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It's filmed well, like most of the show is. Both the scenes in question are just insidious enough
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Something about the scene where Sally walks in on Don cheating on Megan felt incredibly shocking and raw. It's still great on rewatch, but that's one of those things I definitely think experiencing "new" the first time is important for
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Gaius Marius posted:It never should've been this close
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Don crumbling after Pete walks out of the room is so good, Hamm really nails it. I can't stop thinking about how well he sells quiet, panicked horror in that scene.
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Jon Hamms mastery of body language is incredibly impressive. How he goes from cool calm and collected don draper to scared shitless out of his element dick Whitman when he arrives in Korea is fantastic.
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I have absolutely no issue with scrolling past spoiler tags, and definitely prefer that to learning about things before I get to see them.  The Klowner posted:Don crumbling after Pete walks out of the room is so good, Hamm really nails it. I can't stop thinking about how well he sells quiet, panicked horror in that scene. I love that too, that he managed to keep his composure so well while Pete is in the room is impressive, but acting wise that rapid blinking and dawning horror that,"Oh my God I'm hosed... by PETE CAMPBELL!?!" is handled so well.
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Jon Hamm is a great actor who had the misfortune of going up against Bryan Cranston for best actor in a drama again and again at the Emmys. Normally he probably would have won several. What can you do? I'm not a huge fan of Breaking Bad, but Cranston was incredible. It does kind of amaze me that no one else won an acting Emmy for Mad Men. Elisabeth Moss and Vincent Kartheiser in particular are also excellent. But so is everyone, including January Jones, who sometimes gets singled out as weaker than the other major players. I found I appreciated her performance much more on rewatch.
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January Jones is great, and it still blows my mind how she goes from a single appearance at the very tail end of the pilot to such a large role in the second episode and just immediately comes across as a fully realized person whose story is immediately compelling.
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Jerusalem posted:January Jones is great, and it still blows my mind how she goes from a single appearance at the very tail end of the pilot to such a large role in the second episode and just immediately comes across as a fully realized person whose story is immediately compelling. She's an actress who's extremely talented but has gotten an absolute river of poo poo for being a "bitch" because of that role same as Anna Gunn. Here's the greatest pairing of Don and Betty with the actors just having fun being themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV-IbKB5dlo&t=73s When you see Jon Hamm in that video it's almost like he was born to be a comedic actor and being a serious drama actor is just his side gig. pentyne fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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I honestly don't think she's a great actor but she's absolutely perfectly cast. Everyone is. Whoever had the final say in casting deserves a bonus, sopranos, breaking bad, deadwood, they all had a few weak links. Every single mad men actor is loving bringing it every scene Suzanne Farrel that's the only weak actor Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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Gaius Marius posted:I honestly don't think she's a great actor but she's absolutely perfectly cast. Everyone is. Whoever had the final say in casting deserves a bonus, sopranos, breaking bad, deadwood, they all had a few weak links. Every single mad men actor is loving bringing it every scene Matthew Weiner's son that played Glen was pretty terrible, but they clearly figured that out early enough, and they also struck gold with Kiernan Shipka.
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potee posted:Matthew Weiner's son that played Glen was pretty terrible, but they clearly figured that out early enough, and they also struck gold with Kiernan Shipka. Ohhhhhhh yeahhhhh. They we're drat lucky with shipka she grew into such a fine actress. Of only glenn and the five bobbies could say the same
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potee posted:Matthew Weiner's son that played Glen was pretty terrible, but they clearly figured that out early enough, and they also struck gold with Kiernan Shipka. It also took a while to find the right bobby
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January Jones delivers a flat line read from time to time but she also has one of my favorite "ACTING!" moments in the entire series; it's a single scene, it's an entirely physical performance, and every time I watch it I'm like "drat, that's good" all over again.
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GoutPatrol posted:It also took a while to find the right bobby I honestly think the Bobby who stayed with the show the longest is the worst actor of the bunch. But at least they found one who would stick around!
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Gaius Marius posted:I honestly don't think she's a great actor but she's absolutely perfectly cast. Everyone is. Whoever had the final say in casting deserves a bonus, sopranos, breaking bad, deadwood, they all had a few weak links. Every single mad men actor is loving bringing it every scene potee posted:Matthew Weiner's son that played Glen was pretty terrible, but they clearly figured that out early enough, and they also struck gold with Kiernan Shipka. All of these x100 also I really hope Jerusalem didn't google Suzanne Farel. I don't want to be the spoiler police but come on! X( The Klowner fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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Yeah my bad I'm pretty trashed cause of this election. I don't think he's gonna be googling random names though
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Gaius Marius posted:I honestly don't think she's a great actor but she's absolutely perfectly cast. Everyone is. Whoever had the final say in casting deserves a bonus, sopranos, breaking bad, deadwood, they all had a few weak links. Every single mad men actor is loving bringing it every scene That spoiler is inaccurate tho because she's loving great in everything else she's in. There was a lot of behind the scenes drama surrounding her that I'm not sure I buy into the accusations leveled against her and knowing what we know now about Weiner.
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Xealot posted:Like, I remember seeing episode descriptions for it that just say, "Don has a serious conversation with Betty." Back when it originally aired on AMC, pretty much every "On the next Mad Men" preview was like this.
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MightyJoe36 posted:Back when it originally aired on AMC, pretty much every "On the next Mad Men" preview was like this. That was a deliberate Matt Weiner troll move, the network demanded they provide previews but he kept imposing restrictions on the editing team - "You can't show anything past the first half of the episode," "You can only use the first scene of the the A plot," "Nothing with the guest star" etc. That's why by the last few seasons it was just clips of characters asking monosyllabic questions, making small talk and innocuous action/establishing shots (Don thumbing through paperwork, Betty closing a cabinet in the kitchen, Peggy thumbing through paperwork, etc.)
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JethroMcB posted:That was a deliberate Matt Weiner troll move, the network demanded they provide previews but he kept imposing restrictions on the editing team - "You can't show anything past the first half of the episode," "You can only use the first scene of the the A plot," "Nothing with the guest star" etc. That's why by the last few seasons it was just clips of characters asking monosyllabic questions, making small talk and innocuous action/establishing shots (Don thumbing through paperwork, Betty closing a cabinet in the kitchen, Peggy thumbing through paperwork, etc.) I love those, they became hypnotic and dreamy at a certain point.
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JethroMcB posted:That was a deliberate Matt Weiner troll move, the network demanded they provide previews but he kept imposing restrictions on the editing team - "You can't show anything past the first half of the episode," "You can only use the first scene of the the A plot," "Nothing with the guest star" etc. That's why by the last few seasons it was just clips of characters asking monosyllabic questions, making small talk and innocuous action/establishing shots (Don thumbing through paperwork, Betty closing a cabinet in the kitchen, Peggy thumbing through paperwork, etc.) That's the correct way to do a preview imo. Otherwise you're just giving too much away and you cheapen the show as a whole
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The Klowner posted:That's the correct way to do a preview imo. Otherwise you're just giving too much away and you cheapen the show as a whole I agree.
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I remember an AV Club review of a Mad Men episode that ended with them summarizing the preview for the next episode. "Next week on Mad Men: Several people open or close doors!"
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Also I decided to watch the next episode ahead of J's write up. Normally I've been watching the episode after reading their summary but I decided to switch it up to see how it affects my viewing experience What a hell of an episode to do that for, I completely forgot some of the really important things that happen in "The Wheel." I'm very interested to see J's thoughts on Peggy's and Betty's plotlines in particular
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MightyJoe36 posted:Back when it originally aired on AMC, pretty much every "On the next Mad Men" preview was like this. I loved the previews. After a while, I think the editors were just having fun, and purposefully made them as absurd and meaningless as possible. "*Pete makes a weird face" Peggy: Get out! Bert: I don't see the point of all this... *door slams* Next time, on AMC's Mad Men!" I don't find January Jones to be that impressive in anything else I've seen her in, but she's insanely pitch-perfect for Betty. If an interview I read is to be believed, that's by-design. She originally auditioned for Peggy, and apparently Matt Weiner liked her so much, he invented Betty Draper for her.
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The previews and the tv guide descriptions were the best thing about watching it when it aired. I swear the season six finales episode description was just "don has a problem". I sure don't miss all the lovely commercials. I've got the commercial with Christina hendricks hocking booze at me burned into my brain.
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Gaius Marius posted:I swear the season six finales episode description was just "don has a problem". Yes. I personally enjoyed "Joan goes to the beach."
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Someone has uploaded a video with that stuff from Season 5, and I honestly can't tell if these were the real ones or just self-edited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBlqViCuC2Q So, somehow spoilers for season 5, yet also, not? so people who don't want spoilers, don't click that.
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Can you link for us?
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It’s embedded in the post?
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Missed it somehow, thanks!
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JethroMcB posted:January Jones delivers a flat line read from time to time but she also has one of my favorite "ACTING!" moments in the entire series; it's a single scene, it's an entirely physical performance, and every time I watch it I'm like "drat, that's good" all over again. It's when she breaks the chair in A Night to Remember, isn't it? I love season 2. It's the most underrated season IMO. That's one of the brilliant moments that makes me love it so much.
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She's kinda underrated, especially on your second watch of the show.
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KellHound posted:My favorite Episode Description is "Peggy helps Ginsberg with a problem" for the episode where ginsberg has his breakdown claiming computers are making people gay so him and peggy need to reproduce
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