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TwoPair posted:Oh man I would watch the poo poo out of that There's sorta a videogame.
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Argue posted:Sounds like all of the Spider-man cartoons were just playing the long game and setting up a Spider-verse miniseries to resolve all of these at once. The 90s Spider-Man cartoon ended with a Spider-Verse story where Peter met a bunch of alternate versions of himself. At one point Peter makes a stop in a world where Spider-Man is just a comic book character and he meets Stan Lee. Edit: Although this being 90s Spider-Man it sounds more impressive than it actually was. muscles like this! fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 13:10
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It's wild how poorly the 90's Spider-Man animated series aged compared to X-Men, which also kind of didn't age great but the highs are still pretty high and is at least funny when it's bad.
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90s Spider-man may never technically have found Mary Jane but it got a very definitive ending that strongly implied he was going to find her offscreen in like 5 minutes. I think not actually reuniting them was a network mandate due to syndication, like so many other kids' shows that weren't allowed to have an actual ending. I guess they thought kids would stop watching if the story was over, but were too stupid to realize they'd already seen a rerun? I dunno.
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Nah they were gonna do another season but got canned. I dont think they got any scripts finished but basically MJ was in old timey london and Carnage got into Jack the Ripper.
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MJ? Who is this MJ? My name is Maribald Janewhether, good sir. Are you some kind of lost circus performer? Your costume is quite garish and juvenile..
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MorningMoon posted:Nah they were gonna do another season but got canned. I dont think they got any scripts finished but basically MJ was in old timey london and Carnage got into Jack the Ripper. I mean I'm sure there were plans for that at some point, but you don't end a series with the protagonist saving the multiverse from his dark side, meeting his creator and saying basically "I've completed the hero's journey and am a fully fledged, fully realized individual" if you think you're getting renewed.
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muscles like this! posted:The 90s Spider-Man cartoon ended with a Spider-Verse story where Peter met a bunch of alternate versions of himself. At one point Peter makes a stop in a world where Spider-Man is just a comic book character and he meets Stan Lee. Doesn’t Stan go with him to save MaryJane? That’s always been my memory but I’ve never bothered to watch the episode since it aired. I remember that and a frequently repeated scene of Dr. Octopus smashing a bunch of boxes in a warehouse, sometimes even when he wasn’t in a warehouse and occasionally when Dr. Octopus wasn’t in the episode.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:37
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No it's just Peter and Madame Web
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Oct 31, 2020 22:22
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Madame Web was voiced by Stan’s wife, so he was almost with Peter at the end.
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And he called her an "Exotic looking woman"
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Argue posted:Sounds like all of the Spider-man cartoons were just playing the long game and setting up a Spider-verse miniseries to resolve all of these at once. Also the Spider-Verse jaunts in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon. Blockhouse posted:It's wild how poorly the 90's Spider-Man animated series aged compared to X-Men FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Nov 2, 2020 |
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Nov 2, 2020 07:56
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One time in the daredevil crossover, theyre fighting Fisk in his tower and he throws Spider-man back three seasons into the warehouse where ock breaks the boxes, i think you can see ock's machine, too.
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If they had made another season set in Victorian London, you can bet we would have seen that same looped footage of Spider-man in a warehouse dodging Doc Ock's tentacles.
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Carnage throws a lantern and we cut to Oscorp blowing up, probably.
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To me, the reused animation and just generally bad looking animation are not what defines the 90s Spider-man, but rather the fact that they would edit out natural pauses in recorded dialogue so they could make scenes go faster. The pacing of that show is downright nauseating as an adult. It's like it's a normal cartoon that was edited by an 8 year old who is trying to summarize it to you.
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With season 3 being on HBO Max now I've been catching up on Young Justice and I have to say, my issues with this show have remained pretty consistent. The weird paramilitary vibe. The way the individual adventures never really come off as particularly satisfying. The occasionally freakishly unnatural sounding dialog (which wouldn't be weird if everyone always sounded like that, but they don't). Khary Payton being like 20+ characters. The 2-3 characters per season who have a big spotlight and are wildly annoying. That being said, there are some strengths that it only really shows in the long form. Specifically seeing how characters change over protracted periods of time, like Superboy wanting to be the friendly dad type, and Grayson's anxiety about responsibility. There are interesting background changes too, that are only possible with the macro view the show tends to take. And because of that I think at this point I'm more cool with the show wanting to do it's own weird thing than wanting the second coming of the DCAU. And it's always fun to see them pull out the real weird obscure stuff, although the value of that has become far less novel in the ten years since the show started between DC CW and Marvel movies. One thing I remain annoyed about is the prospect of getting invested into any of the ongoing plot threads (This time it's Cyborg) because I know that season 4 is probably gonna reshuffle the deck, again...
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They've already kinda set up some stuff with where they're going with some of it. Cisco Ramon being there, Halo being part of the team, they're gonna be probably doing 80s League next more than they already did. But yeah, honestly? I think calling Young Justice "Ultimate Universe DC/DCAU" is a good way to describe what I like and dislike about the show. KaosMachina fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Nov 24, 2020 |
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So I posted Garfield Halloween, figured I'd post this as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbL-uxd4ZVw Think I mentioned it last time but this was THE show of my childhood, along with Pinky & The Brain. And I feel like they entirely hold up. I doubt at this point I will ever have a child but for the kids of my friends, I feel like they would enjoy these just as much as I did.
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I’ve been thinking about that Batman Beyond sendoff episode of Justice League and I think it works a lot better if Amanda Waller is senile and Terry just humors her because he’s a nice guy. Also he and his brother have black hair because Bruce had an affair with their mother.
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Sometimes people just have black hair.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I’ve been thinking about that Batman Beyond sendoff episode of Justice League and I think it works a lot better if Amanda Waller is senile and Terry just humors her because he’s a nice guy. Also he and his brother have black hair because Bruce had an affair with their mother. You realise that would make it worse, right? Not only does that mean you'd have to have Bruce Wayne still be fertile in his 50's/60's (possible. Maybe he trained his sperm to be the best.) But he would have to get to know Terry's mum, have an affair with her. Continue the affair long enough so that he would know that Terry is born and is his kid. Then continue the affair, produce Terry's younger brother. Than break it off and cut those kids out of his life. Yes Bruce refusing family is a part of his character. But only out of safety. He doesn't try and actually remove or disown his literal children.
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yeah Bruce being distant is one thing but there's no way the guy would knowingly be a deadbeat. I can't think of too many plots worse than "we gave some guys batman sperm flu shots or something to hopefully create further batmen" but that would be up there
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That part was a joke—sorry.
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The most unbelievable part of that is Bruce Wayne having an affair with a normal woman.
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As bad as that whole plot was, this scene is beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2pfuSxXaMw&t=87s Terry: I've got it covered...always. Also just the fact Terry is growing up to be a pretty normal, happy guy with a functioning romantic relationship. I feel like Bruce Wayne suffered enough for everybody in the DCEU and Terry deserves the most fulfilling, peaceful life possible.
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The Question IRL posted:You realise that would make it worse, right? Guys don't really have a menopause equivalent you know, so even Bruce during Batman Beyond's present could still end up getting someone pregnant hypothetically
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Larry King's youngest child was born when he was 66 years old.
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Things I really did not want to think about
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Skwirl posted:Larry King's youngest child was born when he was 66 years old. Tony Randall had two children who were born when he was 77 and 78.
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Huh, they've got the first season of Spectacular Spider-Man on UK Netflix right now. But only the first. Weird.
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I had a time explaining to a friend why Batman Beyond's premise is so great and that particular JLU episode means well, but sucks. It's just so dissonant with what I think is one of the major themes of Beyond.
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And yet in the last season they do drop some hints in that direction, like Superman telling Terry that he’s more like Bruce than he’ll ever know in a way where his voice trails off portentously. I feel like there was something else in the last season like that too where Max is reading police files and says some villain ended up thinking that Terry has to be the original Batman’s son. There’s also this: https://the-schwayest-batman-around.tumblr.com/post/116679190510/batman-beyond-fact-20 Hard agree that it’s silly and undermines the show. But it was very nice to get closure on a show I thought I’d never see again.
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It's right next to Bruce/Barbara on things that you'd just quietly like to ignore, no matter what the creator intentions were. It doesn't really make sense, like how did anyone plan for Terry to randomly break into the batcave, and it takes away character agency and doesn't really add anything more to the story. How much of Batman Beyond was playing off of how Marvel 2099 went over pretty well anyways? Or did somebody just inject 2099 DNA into DCAU staff? I think Beyond did better with characters and story but 2099 did better with the edgey future cyberpunk dystopia.
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's right next to Bruce/Barbara on things that you'd just quietly like to ignore, no matter what the creator intentions were. It doesn't really make sense, like how did anyone plan for Terry to randomly break into the batcave, and it takes away character agency and doesn't really add anything more to the story. While it's fondly remembered (well, Spider-Man is) I don't think Marvel 2099 was particularly successful, and I never heard any of the Beyond team reference it in any of the stuff I've heard of from them. As far as I know, Batman Beyond is what happened when WB told them to make "Anime Batman" to try and bite Pokémon's success, but instead of making a Batman influenced by kids anime, they made one influenced by Akira and Bubblegum Crisis.
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Plus I think Terry’s just regular Spiderman more than any other kind.
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Yeah I've always described Beyond as "What if Spider-Man was also Batman"
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I think someone once pointed out one of the first hints of Terry's heritage was that his eyes don't match his little brother's.
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Azubah posted:I think someone once pointed out one of the first hints of Terry's heritage was that his eyes don't match his little brother's. Under the later explanation mean half his little brother's DNA was Bruce Wayne's as well. Although, because of how genetics work, men inherit a lot less genetically from their fathers than women do.
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Lil' bean eyes aren't really indicative of a hereditary trait. Unless you're trying to put together a theory that he's somehow the bastard son of Mad Stan. I think what's most weird about Terry being the son of Bruce Wayne is the fact that so little of the rest of the show feels any obligation to connect itself directly to Batman's past. There's things like the Joker gang, but usually the villains at most only vaguely echo the spirit of old villains. And then they even throw in Kraven the hunter and the Fantastic Four in between things like the dinosaur cult, rat stalker, dirt revenant, and the glowing skeleton businessman.
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