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ADINSX posted:Should poor white and black people in the 30s (or today) not have unionized? Their experiences were radically different. Labor movements figured out pretty quick that building common ground is key, isn’t that what solidarity means? There was a huge effort to do precisely that in the 1890s! A huge southern union of agricultural workers (mostly black) tried to hook up with the big one out in the midwest (mostly white), and the midwest one was like lol, no, you're black. The negative effects of this are still to be felt to this day!
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:arguing over it is very dumb, yes, but walking people through why PoC and LGBTQ+ and women need further liberation before we can really make headway as a unified class is pretty essential to making headway on the whole “class consciousness” deal what if we want to do both
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ADINSX posted:Labor movements figured out pretty quick that building common ground is key, isn’t that what solidarity means? that’s really all that intersectionality is attempting to do find common ground and increase awareness
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fart simpson posted:what if we want to do both sorry we can only do one thing at a time, in series dems the rules
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I’m just repeating the literature I’ve read and used to have good discussions with other working class folks like me, I’m in no way an expert nor a representative of intersectional theory
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I’m just repeating the literature I’ve read and used to have good discussions with other working class folks like me, I’m in no way an expert nor a representative of intersectional theory sorry your the thread expert now
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:that’s really all that intersectionality is attempting to do and disjunctionality is the key to defeating labor movements
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Plorkyeran posted:and disjunctionality is the key to defeating labor movements i've never heard that term before but i like it
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Plorkyeran posted:and disjunctionality is the key to defeating labor movements if we’re talking about labour movements that actually exist in the US, nearly all of them are heavily staffed by LGBTQ+ and PoC, and as far as I know they all have various language that involves some form of intersectional takes as part of their plank I’m pretty sure even IWW includes language such as this
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know whether that also applies to the ILWU? Asking since family were very active organizing there back in the day
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Stringent posted:i've never heard that term before but i like it it's not a real term
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Stringent posted:turns out you need a phd in gender studies to run a political campaign based on taking money from rich ppl and giving it to poor ppl
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Hunter2 Thompson posted:know whether that also applies to the ILWU? Plorkyeran posted:it's not a real term its a maths joke since you can intersect a set or you can disjoint it e; oh youre the one who made the joke in the first place
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infernal machines posted:did y'all reelect trump yet? how long does this nonsense take anyway? going back in the thread a bit to answer this question more seriously: https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1324569887134621698
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what the gently caress is it with people and dynasties
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Sagebrush posted:what the gently caress is it with people and dynasties what better way to maintain power and ensure the “wrong people” don’t get it
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Sagebrush posted:what the gently caress is it with people and dynasties dynasties are just brands of DNA
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Stringent posted:turns out you need a phd in gender studies to run a political campaign based on taking money from rich ppl and giving it to poor ppl i just hop out of the trees with my merry men to slit their throats, take their gold, and leave their bodies hanging on the outskirts of sherwood forest
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Sagebrush posted:what the gently caress is it with people and dynasties leftover bad wiring in our brains from feudalism
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deval patrick massively increasing his support already compared to 2020 i see. hes one to keep an eye on
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Roosevelt posted:i just hop out of the trees with my merry men to slit their throats, take their gold, and leave their bodies hanging on the outskirts of sherwood forest 
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fart simpson posted:going back in the thread a bit to answer this question more seriously: I'm voting for Undecided.
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where did they find enough perverts that only 28% are undecided
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Truman Peyote posted:where did they find enough perverts that only 28% are undecided The republican party.
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fart simpson posted:going back in the thread a bit to answer this question more seriously: lmao at people thinking the Obama's are going to come back from their life of Netflix deal and Goldman Sachs talk money to run this country
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totally unbelievable. there's no way donald trump would express affection for his son FAT32 SHAMER posted:the moment my hair started thinning to the point my barber noticed it I had them shave it all off and now I save money by using cremo every night not me. someday i'm gonna go full early-season frasier orchestra conductor on my hair
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we've got about 2.5 years to clone a 40-something bernie. get on it
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trump 2024
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Sagebrush posted:we've got about 2.5 years to clone a 40-something bernie. get on it AOC will be 35 at the time of the next election
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It's sweepstakes odds that AOC doesn't pull an Obama if she makes it into office, imo.
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Sagebrush posted:what the gently caress is it with people and dynasties name recognition. i suspect a republican candidate with the last name “reagan” would poll well in an absence of any information about that candidate’s policies, record, or views.
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on the other hand a Kennedy just ate poo poo in Massachusetts so
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Midjack posted:name recognition. i suspect a republican candidate with the last name “reagan” would poll well in an absence of any information about that candidate’s policies, record, or views. i think even first name reagan would do pretty well
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Sagebrush posted:we've got about 2.5 years to clone a 40-something bernie. get on it too late, michelle obama is already dominating the field
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Stringent posted:on the other hand a Kennedy just ate poo poo in Massachusetts so it wears off after a while and that one has had almost half a century to decay. Roosevelt posted:i think even first name reagan would do pretty well reagan r. reagan (r) would be unstoppable.
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Stringent posted:on the other hand a Kennedy just ate poo poo in Massachusetts so in a normal country you would expect them to realise dynasties don’t work and people are voting explicitly against the elite, specifically the liberal elite, and begin running normal people with social Democrat/justice democrat policies given the success of the justice Dems in their areas unfortunately instead they’re going to blame latinos and swing right instead
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Sagebrush posted:what the gently caress is it with people and dynasties celebrity is pernicious but people fuckin' love it
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