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i mean, in the abstract, I WANT being a cop to be a good paying job. it’s a position with a ton of responsibility (even if is 99.9% boredom) and you want to attract good people to it because the difficult situations can be really, really difficult. i also think pretty much all of the training is terrible and the institutions are terrible and tolerate racism and they handle way too many things by default that can be handled without an armed police officer. but it SHOULD be a good job that attracts competitive applicants.
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Jonny 290 posted:pretty sure DV convictions are a disqualifier for enlistment too, whereas in a PD they're an instant promotion to lieutenant on hire I left my poo poo hometown in 1997. I came back when my dad was dying in 2002. A dude I went to high school with that joined the force (who is now police chief) drove his cruiser into my path and turned the lights on and was all 'FREEZE YOU FUCKER, lol, nevermind it's just me Darve, how you doin' Took me a long time to realize it wasn't a friend being silly, it was a rival saying 'this is my territory and gently caress off'
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You'd need to start by retiring every single cop who was hired and trained under the current system, and rebuild it entirely. The system selects for bullies and bigots. Any attempt at reform that keeps the existing bullies and bigots in charge would keep the same problems.
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Jabor posted:You'd need to start by retiring every single cop who was hired and trained under the current system, and rebuild it entirely. Media knew this in the seventies through the nineties. It somehow morphed into the cop dicksucking we know now since then.
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:i mean, in the abstract, I WANT being a cop to be a good paying job. it’s a position with a ton of responsibility (even if is 99.9% boredom) and you want to attract good people to it because the difficult situations can be really, really difficult. literally just take away their guns and make them walk a beat instead of driving cars and you'd probably drive off the worst 80% overnight.
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Jabor posted:The system selects for bullies and bigots reminder that the pig tests are for weeding out the smart ones this was defended in the supreme court
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Sagebrush posted:literally just take away their guns and make them walk a beat instead of driving cars the pig wagons here all have WALK MY BEAT bumper stickers
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Sagebrush posted:literally just take away their guns and make them walk a beat instead of driving cars and you'd probably drive off the worst 80% overnight. The NYPD's budget is over $10b a year.
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Sagebrush posted:literally just take away their guns and make them walk a beat instead of driving cars and you'd probably drive off the worst 80% overnight.
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there is essentially never a situation where a regular policeman actually needs to shoot someone with a gun right on the spot. even if there's a wacko walking around with a machine gun, you get as many people to safety as you can and call in backup. hero cops don't exist. take away their guns, and make them walk a beat so they interact with people day to day instead of only getting out of their cars when they want to harass someone. hello officer how are you doing, oh not too bad, nice day isn't it, stay out of trouble. both the police and the citizens will benefit from this interaction. it's incredibly loving simple Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The NYPD's budget is over $10b a year. yeah they also literally perform covert surveillance in foreign countries. lmao
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Just a glance at the Seattle 911 calls for service map shows the overwhelming majority of calls are for petty theft (where the crime has almost certainly already occurred and is no longer in progress), reports of someone feeling unsafe, reports of "something suspicious", traffic accidents, or "crisis". All of these, except for potentially someone feeling unsafe (since that's so vague) do not need to be responded to by an armed officer, or an officer as we know it of any kind. Most police should really be a combination of social worker and bureaucrat, and that's not the sort of person attracted to police work at this time. In other news, it looks like Charter Amendment No. 6: Structure and Duties of the Department of Public Safety is going to pass. This is very exciting, because apparently it means the city council has more power in dictating what sort of response shows up when you call 911 (the voting guide makes it sound like its specifically for mental health crisis, but hopefully its more leeway than that). This means we actually could drastically reduce the size of the police force. If I dial 911 because my car was stolen, I want basically a city insurance adjuster to show up and officially take facts, if someone is freaking out, I want a trained social worker with mental health and de-escalation experience, who isn't gonna open fire because someone is "ignoring orders", etc, etc.
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Sagebrush posted:there is essentially never a situation where a regular policeman actually needs to shoot someone with a gun right on the spot. even if there's a wacko walking around with a machine gun, you get as many people to safety as you can and call in backup. hero cops don't exist. cops don’t routinely carry firearms here. sometimes they have a taser though
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:cops don’t routinely carry firearms here. sometimes they have a taser though This is exactly how it should be. When you carry a weapon your relationship with the community and the people around you instantly changes because you have something that can instantly end someone's life.
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At a minimum, police should go back to service revolvers. With a revolver you have 6 shots and a long reload time. You better know what you're aiming at and not miss, because you've only got 5 more chances. Now, at the slightest threat, its nothing to them to unload 17 shots into someone before needing to reload (in a split second). A big part of the switch from revolvers to high capacity pistols was the 1986 Miami Dade Shootout, which was a wild loving incident that got turned into a couple of made for tv movies and documentaries... unless you are in a made for tv movie shootout, if you are a beat cop (and it wasn't beat cops in the shootout, it was the FBI), a service revolver should be sufficient.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:This is exactly how it should be. cops have guns in their cars though. pew pew.
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it’s hard to read all dem auto queue words
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:cops have guns in their cars though. pew pew. that's appropriate, as long as cops don't all have cars. most of them walk the beat with sticks and pepper spray, maybe tasers. one in eight or so drives in a car with a couple of shotguns locked in the trunk, and you radio that guy when you need him. for anything where two or four shotguns are not enough firepower, you call in the swat team.
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Sagebrush posted:literally just take away their guns and make them walk a beat instead of driving cars and you'd probably drive off the worst 80% overnight. yeah. i’m pretty glad to see what austin is doing. it’s just a first step but the APD budget is ~$430 million. they’re moving ~$150 million of that out over the next ~2 years. mostly by:
that still leaves a lot to do, but the ideas all seem pretty good to me.
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thats some good poo poo op. I basically don't want to have a police force of any kind save maybe a swat team for actual active shooter situations, which are obviously rare
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policing in america looks messy as hell. I’m surprised that there is little or no independent civilian oversight in many us jurisdictions. but I’m in no place to comment other than what is posted online and what makes it to the news down here.
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 “I want to reiterate that am committed to New Zealand Police remaining a generally unarmed police service." [new commissioner] Coster said police valued their relationships with the various communities they served, and this meant working with them to find solutions that worked for both. "How the public feels is important - we police with the consent of the public, and that is a privilege."
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ADINSX posted:Just a glance at the Seattle 911 calls for service map shows the overwhelming majority of calls are for petty theft (where the crime has almost certainly already occurred and is no longer in progress), reports of someone feeling unsafe, reports of "something suspicious", traffic accidents, or "crisis". for 18 months i had a linux machine scraping the Fayetteville, AR police dispatch record and the top two dispatch sites were the two walmarts in fayetteville the first had a 42:1 ratio of calls versus the #3 site, and the smaller walmart had a 28:1 ratio versus #3 lol we're paying tax dollars to harass poor people over shoplifting calls so helen walton can drink more indigenous baby blood to prolong her life
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istr an article from years ago pointing out that all walmarts in the country do that, and are always responsible for the majority of the calls in any community in which they exist. they're basically outsourcing store security to city police to save a few dollars. what a poo poo company
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yep the local cops turn into loss prevention security guards so the waltons can get the Good Cocaine and kill people . nobody cares or wants to guillotine them. its hosed up
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helen walton literally killed a minwage frozen food factory worker by running over them when she was driving drunk and the judge went "welp, you're rich, nothing we can do"
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she later moved to texas and got a DUI which the local cops, and i quote, "chose to let the statute of limitations run out"
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probably her lawyer told them if they looked the other way she'd buy them a tank
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Jonny 290 posted:nobody cares or wants to guillotine them. its hosed up that's the part that gets me. i understand how it got that way, it just flabbergasts me that it works.
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lol trumps chief of staff got the rona let’s see if trump goes two for two
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kitten emergency posted:lol trumps chief of staff got the rona i mean round one aged him 10 years and with a baseline age of like 74 idk idk
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good shits on Twitter tonight https://twitter.com/im_in_the_walls/status/1324903364178612224?s=21
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The GOP’s going to look in the mirror, take a deep breath, and say “We gotta lower the age of consent.”
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