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Android Blues posted:Yeah, the tragic backstory and disaffected scientist who does crimes for a relatable reason thing were never part of his character until BTAS. He used to be just a goofy bald guy with a freeze ray. It was a lot of stealing diamonds because people call them "ice."
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Snackmar posted:My absolute favourite example of this is from What If v1 #30 where Kingpin lures Spider-Man to Coney Island, where he has converted a ferris wheel seat into a flying attack bathtub. Also he has a laser cane. Just in case it isn't clear from this coming from a What If, but the laser cane is something he actually had when he was a Spider-Man baddy.
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Android Blues posted:Yeah, the tragic backstory and disaffected scientist who does crimes for a relatable reason thing were never part of his character until BTAS. He used to be just a goofy bald guy with a freeze ray. muscles like this! posted:It was a lot of stealing diamonds because people call them "ice." Wasn't he largely indistinguishable from the two or three other villains with freeze guns?
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Nov 8, 2020 03:43
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Pretty much. He was killed for a quick gag in a Chuck Dixon Robin mini-series just a bit before the cartoon debuted. He's definitely treated as kind of a nobody. From Robin II #1, which came out in October 1991:    Hearts of Ice first aired on 9/7/1992. I believe he next shows up alive in 1994 as part of Knightquest, where he's treated more seriously but does not quite have his cartoon backstory fully incorporated yet. He's also completely naked for the entire issue so no costume revamp at that point. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Nov 8, 2020 03:57
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Skwirl posted:Wasn't he largely indistinguishable from the two or three other villains with freeze guns? He did have the whole "needing to be cold" thing going on, so there was that.
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Nov 8, 2020 04:06
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muscles like this! posted:He did have the whole "needing to be cold" thing going on, so there was that. That was used to a pretty cool (haha) effect in the Adam West show where is layer was freezing but he had a remote that let him turn it on and off on individual floor tiles, so his henchmen could get around and he could trap Batman and Robin in a cell without bars.
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Nov 8, 2020 04:11
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Bring back Mirror Man. A mad scientist type villain whose gimmick is mirror poo poo and only has 2 major appearances. The biggest thing is he found out batman is Bruce Wayne and batman used that to drive the man insane. Not joking.
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Nov 8, 2020 04:19
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There's already Mirror Master from the Flash
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Nov 8, 2020 05:28
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How many villains are scientists that were ridiculed and scorned by their colleagues that lead them to conduct a disastrous experiment on themselves?
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Nov 9, 2020 23:02
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Has anyone ever died or been seriously injured from a danger room exercise?
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Nov 9, 2020 23:11
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A student was tricked into killing himself in the DR in Whedons run.
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Lobok posted:There's already Mirror Master from the Flash So? There's like twenty cold themed villains in the DCU.
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I've been reading some early Defenders and there's a story thread about Valkyrie doing some time in jail, it doesn't last very long but is interesting. Has there been and extended storyline about a superhero in prison?
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Nov 10, 2020 23:15
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "extended" but Daredevil had Ed Brubaker's "The Devil in Cell Block D" which was six issues of Matt Murdock in prison. I don't know if you'll find a lot of stuff that goes longer than one story arc since superheroes in prison is kind of limited in what they can do.
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Nov 10, 2020 23:25
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Basically more than one issue or a short side story. Thanks.
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Nov 10, 2020 23:38
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There was a healthy chunk of early Thunderbolts that followed Abe in prison as a recurring B-plot.
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It's not really "superheroes in prison," but Steve Gerber's Hard Time was about a teenage prisoner (a school shooter) who developed psychic powers while serving 50-to-life.
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Nov 11, 2020 02:25
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Frank's had at least 3 "gone to jail" storylines
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Nov 11, 2020 02:29
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Although in Circle of Blood he's only in prison for like one issue.
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Nov 11, 2020 03:12
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Devil in Cell Block D is a really good story.
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Nov 11, 2020 03:33
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Bruce Wayne was framed for the murder of his forgotten ex girlfriend and spent about 4 issues in prison. Then he escaped. Then they found the real killer and the authorities seemed to not care that Bruce Wayne escaped from prison.
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Nov 11, 2020 04:41
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Skwirl posted:Devil in Cell Block D is a really good story. It's the highlight of Brubaker's Daredevil run. Murdock, Fisk, Bullseye, and Frank Castle are all locked up together.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:It's the highlight of Brubaker's Daredevil run. Murdock, Fisk, Bullseye, and Frank Castle are all locked up together. I know, it's kinda tragic it's his very first arc.
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Nov 11, 2020 08:30
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Madkal posted:Bruce Wayne was framed for the murder of his forgotten ex girlfriend and spent about 4 issues in prison. Then he escaped. Then they found the real killer and the authorities seemed to not care that Bruce Wayne escaped from prison. That's a pop culture problem in general where if you're framed and find the person who framed you, then you don't get into any trouble for all the crimes you committed while finding the person who framed you.
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Nov 11, 2020 13:36
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The only unrealistic part is a white billionaire going to jail for murder
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Retro Futurist posted:The only unrealistic part is a white billionaire going to jail for murder That guy who killed a reporter on his submarine went to jail, I don't know if he was a billionaire, but he was rich enough to have a private submarine with space for two people and enough elbow room to for one of them to decapitate the other.
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Skwirl posted:That guy who killed a reporter on his submarine went to jail, I don't know if he was a billionaire, but he was rich enough to have a private submarine with space for two people and enough elbow room to for one of them to decapitate the other. He was completely broke.
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Alhazred posted:He was completely broke. Why didn't he just sell the submarine then?
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Nov 11, 2020 22:43
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Skwirl posted:Why didn't he just sell the submarine then? And be homeless?
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Nov 11, 2020 22:48
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Skwirl posted:I know, it's kinda tragic it's his very first arc. Yeah; Brubaker did some interesting stuff, but he peaked in his first arc.
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Skwirl posted:Why didn't he just sell the submarine then?
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Nov 12, 2020 06:43
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but i don't want to sell my submarine, i want to murder reporters in it.
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Nov 12, 2020 06:46
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So, any news on what's taking Saga so long to start up again?
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Edit: tried to answer about the break and now why it’s taking so long.
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Anybody know what the first story of a badguy dressing up as the superhero was. I know Chameleon does it in Amazing Spider-Man #1, but superheroes had been around for 30 years by then, so I'd guess it's not the first.
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Cornwind Evil posted:So, any news on what's taking Saga so long to start up again? They're taking an extended break to figure out where they want to take the series. I don't think they gave a return time at all.
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Detective Comics #27
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Endless Mike posted:They're taking an extended break to figure out where they want to take the series. I don't think they gave a return time at all. BKV hinted it might be years.
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Rhyno posted:BKV hinted it might be years. Is Fiona Staple doing any other books in the mean time?
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Her wikipedia doesn't have anything since Saga and a bit of Archie years ago. Image's website shows references to two books since Saga, which I believe were alt covers.
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