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Fojar38 posted:Nancy Pelosi did impeach Trump She could be impeaching Barr at this very moment and Pompeo too! The election is over, time to break poo poo if they want to gently caress around. Start issuing subpoenss and hall that GSA woman’s rear end in the house and grill her. Pelosi won’t wield the power she has and won’t be a pain in the rear end that she really should be.
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Blastedhellscape posted:Regarding a potential coup: 20 years of rightwing media has these lunatics are as much if not more primed to toss liberals and democrats into ovens as they were muslims/iraqis during 2003. It only takes a few, and a lot these people think other Americans are their enemy....
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Glumwheels posted:She could be impeaching Barr at this very moment and Pompeo too! The election is over, time to break poo poo if they want to gently caress around. Start issuing subpoenss and hall that GSA woman’s rear end in the house and grill her. So she impeaches them and then the senate doesn't convict and everyone spends the better part of a year complaining about Pelosi doing the thing they wanted her to do but somehow didn't do it right as if there was some magical One Weird Trick to Conviction.  Just letting you know it'd all be mere theater. Like I want Barr and Pompeo arrested and thrown in jail but I'm not exactly going to complain about the house not trying to do it during the lame duck session when they could be doing many other things that also will get blocked by the Senate that are more important (stimulus) Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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atriptothebeach posted:i dont think he's naive, here. If poo poo was even half as bad as this, gently caress everyone who's ever carried a torch for Glenn. Double gently caress chapo for slobbering his knob so goddamn much
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Nov 11, 2020 02:34
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maniacripper posted:20 years of rightwing media has these lunatics are as much if not more primed to toss liberals and democrats into ovens as they were muslims/iraqis during 2003. It only takes a few, and a lot these people think other Americans are their enemy.... Well, yeah. If you're a leftist you're a socialist and you're the enemy. They are the American. Or at least that's how they think. It's insane. I have two people I used to game with, but don't any longer. I connected with them recently and both are talking about televising executions. It's loving unreal the cult these people have bought into.
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Glumwheels posted:She could be impeaching Barr at this very moment and Pompeo too! The election is over, time to break poo poo if they want to gently caress around. Start issuing subpoenss and hall that GSA woman’s rear end in the house and grill her. The house isn't back in session until next week, actually, so not sure how that's supposed to work
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He's gonna tweet through it. https://twitter.com/DeanBrowningPA/status/1326326193117933569
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Rigel posted:The GOP absolutely would have fully explored some of the edge case scenarios that we like to talk about and they have the lawyers to pull it off.... except these scenarios still all require an extremely close election with one decisive state and a real, actual controversy. This election was not close enough and it was clear, so the edge cases all fell away as plausible strategies immediately. Yeah tbf it was focusing specifically on a 2000-style genuinely tight election rather than the actual outcome. The thing which really did strike me was what kicked it off, which was the military scholar's response to somebody else's response to a potential trump coup, which was simply: "the military will never allow that to happen." And she pointed out that's very vague and baselessly confident, given that the military is an enormous organisation of one and a half million people with differing groups within it, different political opinions within it, etc. If it's actually getting to the point where you're just relying on the armed forces for the continuance of democratic government, you've hosed up somewhere along the way. Blastedhellscape posted:Ordering troops to gun down unarmed American citizens, which is something that would have to be done for Trump to actually take step into full dictator-for-life territory, would be a whole extra step up the unacceptable war crimes ladder, and the American military as it stands is not going to do that. Who says it needs to come to people being shot in the street for Trump to retain power? Trump is in the White House. Trump's people are (legally, for now) installed at the head of every federal agency. If there's a Rubicon-crossing moment where they refuse to leave, using physical force to evict them becomes the radical act; declining to use force leaves the status quo intact. You're basically hoping that a group of people within the public service - in leadership roles in the military and federal law enforcement agencies - consider their commitment to the letter of the law and the idea of the office rather than the man to be more compelling than the current CIC and Sec Def telling them otherwise. And I think they will (in fact I think Trump will slink out peacefully) but the fact we're even talking about the military as a check on power in the United States of America would have been unthinkable ten years ago.
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McConnell is telling people what to say to negotiate through this mess as obvious from Barr's non-statement of, "If you see serious fraud then you should investigate it" hours after leaving a discussion with McConnell. I'm 90% there that McConnell is going to give Trump another week to come up with something and then off-hand say something like, "Joe Biden is a good friend of mine and I look forward to working with the President-Elect" and that will be that. edit: Edmund Lava posted:Given that Cruz, Graham, Loeffler and Perdue have jumped fully on three coup train I wish I had your confidence. It’s been less than a week and we’re already seeing enough of his caucus champion the cause that attempting to snuff it out can hurt his chance at leadership. And there’s nothing Mitch cares about as much as his own personal power. Loeffler and Perdue have to hope that daddy trump can bring them home otherwise they are no longer relevant. The MUST have his support. Graham is in the same position, without Trump voters he was done as a senator. Cruz is Cruz and I'm not going to try an interpret that disengenuous fucks motives other than that he sees some temporary advantage to this play. Murgos fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Nov 11, 2020 02:46
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Y'all have a much rosier outlook on the GOP not wanting to destroy the country for Trump than I do. Yes, they know it would be the end on the union. Do you know how many teabaggers lust for that? And the conservative politicians probably think they can exploit the chaos for personal profit.
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The House of Representatives isn't in session? Oh well all right then, no need to interrupt part of their 100-day-a-year vacation for some piddly thing like an attempted coup against this country's democratically elected government, think how much artisanal ice cream would go uneaten in Nancy's freezer
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Murgos posted:McConnell is telling people what to say to negotiate through this mess as obvious from Barr's non-statement of, "If you see serious fraud then you should investigate it" hours after leaving a discussion with McConnell. Given that Cruz, Graham, Loeffler and Perdue have jumped fully on three coup train I wish I had your confidence. It’s been less than a week and we’re already seeing enough of his caucus champion the cause that attempting to snuff it out can hurt his chance at leadership. And there’s nothing Mitch cares about as much as his own personal power. I don’t think true coup will succeed, but I’m starting to get real nervous.
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Should be “with or without” since Biden is 48K ahead in PA
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Petr posted:Y'all have a much rosier outlook on the GOP not wanting to destroy the country for Trump than I do. Yes, they know it would be the end on the union. Do you know how many teabaggers lust for that? And the conservative politicians probably think they can exploit the chaos for personal profit. you don't kill the cow when you've made a career of sucking the teets it's 2020 and so I'll believe this is over when it's over, but the scenario you're outlining seems extremely implausible. Five minutes to Hannity 
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The Benghazi hearings were theatre. This wouldn't be theatre it's the right thing to do.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:you don't kill the cow when you've made a career of sucking the teets I've got a story about a frog and scorpion to tell you
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yeah all the right wing psychopaths in Australia are onboard the "Trump was robbed" insanity. and you can tell the PM is dying to align with them I'm not nervous about this immediately, I just wish a resolution was in sight. the longer the lie goes on, the more people just accept it as background noise and that's really unacceptable
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maniacripper posted:20 years of rightwing media has these lunatics are as much if not more primed to toss liberals and democrats into ovens as they were muslims/iraqis during 2003. It only takes a few, and a lot these people think other Americans are their enemy.... Who are you referring to when you say "these lunatics" and "these people?"
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When has the US military attacked American civilians on US soil? The Bonus March. McArthur ordered the attack and Dwight Eisenhower was Susan Collins levels of deeply concerned but still went through with it. Patton led a unit into the marchers camp. The Coal Wars gunning down striking miners. Obviously too many Native American massacres to count. What am I missing? I don’t put too much faith in the current leadership to not follow orders from whatever puppet Trump puts in as the SecDef. E: more specific davecrazy fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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I bet Esper was canned ahead of the Chud rally this weekend. You know there will be counter protestors from the left, and I'm sure Trump is going to order national guard to gently caress people up again.davecrazy posted:When has the US military attacked civilians? Depending on the source, upwards of a million civilians were killed in Iraq.
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davecrazy posted:When has the US military attacked civilians? Kent State And the police weren't as militant or trained to hate "liberals" nearly as much as they are now.
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Ok Comboomer posted:If poo poo was even half as bad as this, gently caress everyone who's ever carried a torch for Glenn. Double gently caress chapo for slobbering his knob so goddamn much Petr posted:Y'all have a much rosier outlook on the GOP not wanting to destroy the country for Trump than I do. Yes, they know it would be the end on the union. Do you know how many teabaggers lust for that? And the conservative politicians probably think they can exploit the chaos for personal profit. But it's a losing hand and they all know it, and sooner or later if Trump continues with this, it will be a liability more than a help. I think congressional republicans are getting their ducks in order to make it seem like Trump had his shot before accepting it en masse. I hope.
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VitalSigns posted:The House of Representatives isn't in session? Oh well all right then, no need to interrupt part of their 100-day-a-year vacation for some piddly thing like an attempted coup against this country's democratically elected government, think how much artisanal ice cream would go uneaten in Nancy's freezer Aside from it being in the lame duck, I don't think that the two Senate candidates in Georgia (that are about to have an election and that the Democrats desperately need) want the boat rocked at the top too much. Right now it's just a bunch of bluster.
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davecrazy posted:When has the US military attacked American civilians on US soil? Aftermath of hurricane Katrina and you dont need to deploy the army when every PD department in the country would love nothing more than to kill the poo poo out of people just waiting on the order from trump.
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Wilbur Swain posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326343694912466944 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326345492834512897 this too. davecrazy posted:When has the US military attacked American civilians on US soil? agreed but different times and scenarios(not defending them, what i mean is compared to this). i doubt your average boot is gonna shoot on a crowed of american citizens because some dumb poo poo tweet orders some lickspittle civilian leader in the pentagon to open fire on the crowd. especially one who is like 12-0 when it comes to court cases regarding an election he lost. especially a leader who has openly poo poo on said military dozens of times. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Midgetskydiver posted:Kent State Oh for gently caress's sake. You don't know the difference between the National Guard, the police, the regular Army, have have no idea of the level of command you are referring to, and can't even seem to realize that Kent State was 50 years ago. The worst thing that the military has done in the past year is hover some helicopters over protesters in Washington D. C. and the guys who did that are in a whole world of poo poo. The idea that the Army is going to install Donald Trump as a dictator is ludicrous.
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bird cooch posted:Aside from it being in the lame duck, I don't think that the two Senate candidates in Georgia (that are about to have an election and that the Democrats desperately need) want the boat rocked at the top too much. Right now the two senators from Georgia and all the GA reps are calling for the Republican Georgia SoS to resign, so no, they are definitely rocking the boat.
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Kalit posted:Doesn't everyone know by now that anything that O'Keefe/Project Veritas puts out are lies? If we lived in a just world, the fact that O'Keefe said something could be used in a court of law to conclusively and irrefutably prove the opposite position. He could argue for the Heliocentric Model and I would start looking very hard at the evidence for the Sun revolving around the Earth.
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Petr posted:Y'all have a much rosier outlook on the GOP not wanting to destroy the country for Trump than I do. Yes, they know it would be the end on the union. Do you know how many teabaggers lust for that? And the conservative politicians probably think they can exploit the chaos for personal profit. They have no mechanism for realistically doing this. By which I explicitly mean that the military thinks trump is a piece of poo poo. The people who voted for trump are also old pieces of poo poo who are aged out of fighting a civil war from a practical standpoint.Trump can cry all he wants, but if he tries and pulls anything, the entire city of DC will have his head and the problem will be solved. I will only start panicking if the right actually starts protesting in any kind of numbers that might lead to alarm. That's the rubber hitting the road. Until then it's all bluster.
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VitalSigns posted:The House of Representatives isn't in session? Oh well all right then, no need to interrupt part of their 100-day-a-year vacation for some piddly thing like an attempted coup against this country's democratically elected government, think how much artisanal ice cream would go uneaten in Nancy's freezer She should do nothing then give the republicans whatever they want and hope they’ll be better next time like the senile old grandma she is. This is precisely the time to break the government because it’s clear republicans do not want to negotiate. She should definitely not pass a 2021 budget if this is the poo poo they want to pull. She should issue subpoenas and impeach the assholes aiding trump. Why vote for dem senators if it just means two more assholes who won’t use the power they’re given for fear of upsetting idiots.
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Bottom Liner posted:mike pompeo is a living breathing walking piece of dog poo poo Who literally wants to bring about the end of the world so Jesus can come back.
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Tune in tomorrow for the next thrilling episode! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326347841476890627
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I understand people are worried and it's pretty scary to have an attempted coup going on but I think we need to take a breath and remember that Trump's Loud Bullshit isn't reality. He makes tons of demands and every single time it ends up with some sort of halfhearted agreement followed by quietly admitting his stuff had no value anyway. There is still danger aplenty because of potential violence sparks but we really can't and shouldn't get into the attitude of "We're all hosed the military is going to mow us down in the streets everything is over." Don't let Trump's loud bullshit convince you he is more meaningful than he is. He is a brash coward who has always, without fail, baked down the moment things got even remotely spicy. This is a guy who panics about firing people. That isn't to say he's harmless but he's made an entire career out of blustering overconfidence while hiding from any real pushback. Biden is going to be sworn in in January and Trump will continue to whine in a less relevant way. We all knew the lame duck period was going to loving suck and it is but it's the dying gasps of an idiot who realizes he's running out of paths. At the end of the day one of the biggest flaws of both of the main political parties is that they want as little change as possible in most cases. The idea that the Republicans are so pro-Trump that they would literally tear down the country to keep him in power instead of just using the senate to block most of what Biden does is silly. They are doing the same hem-hawwing 'oh gosh yeah sure that's awful Donald" stuff they do whenever Trump gets something right up his rear end that they don't care about. This is absolutely loving dangerous, cowardly and irresponsible mind you, but it isn't a prelude to a universal coup. They don't even have universal support among Republicans with several having already come out to recognize Biden as President-Elect. They can play this game because they don't really care if some QAnon rear end in a top hat shoots up a Wal Mart because they are part of the Biden Conspiracy because it won't actually impact them, but they have no real reason to do anything that risks impacting them when they can be rich and comfortable and obstructionist all they want for the rest of their lives.' And if I'm wrong and Trump has a full coup going with the unhindered support of the military and police then hey we're all going to be in camps together anyway so you can punch me in the face in person!
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TwoQuestions posted:So we got one state that might ignore the votes and send their own Electors arbitrarily. Good thing there isn't any more red trifectas that voted blue this time around. I’m earl “buddy” carter
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davecrazy posted:When has the US military attacked American civilians on US soil? Kent state? Waco?
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CommieGIR posted:Who literally wants to bring about the end of the world so Jesus can come back. eh, prolly not if I had to really guess. Not saying that he wouldn't bring about the end of the world if it could get him something or eliminate somebody he dislikes, but Pompeo-- more than just about any of these other trogs-- sets my "amoral power climber who doesn't believe a lick of the gospel he exploits in order to gain influence" detector a-buzzing. that's not to say that he isn't a neocon chickenhawk idiot-moron with a chubby warboner. He's clearly proven his capacity to be ignorant and stupid and belligerent many times over. I just don't buy his faith act for a second. Hell, he's so stupid and smug he just wears it like a big overgrown boy. Occasionally you get the sense that he actually thinks he's getting away with everything because he's fooling the rubes, when in reality it's simply because might makes right and we live in a world of cowards. Other times he seems to know that most people who know who he is hate his guts and simply doesn't care. Or when it's obvious that he despises the reporter interviewing him and just makes the whole thing a power play and a show of contempt. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Why do people think that Georgia would send faithless electors. I'm pretty sure the winning party , IE the Democrats select their own electors.
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