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Nov 11, 2020 19:44
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Casual Encountess posted:the entire user is a swamp cooler tho
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Nov 11, 2020 20:07
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Nov 11, 2020 20:33
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poty posted:https://twitter.com/rafahari/status/1326461689047511040 this guy should get a blue checkmark for being the only keynote user on the planet
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Nov 11, 2020 20:42
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haveblue posted:an ipad or iphone going full bore can easily become uncomfortable to touch in spots so let's hope they're a little more aggressive for the laptop The 4K apple tv has a fan. It’s only an A10X, which was in the 2017 iPad Pro and the non-X version in the iPhone 7, but it should be able to provide a comparison for fan vs no fan performance at least. I can’t seem to find any benchmarks on it though. hobbesmaster posted:they’re nowhere near as bad as the latest MacBooks pro though Yeah I think the 16” always uses the dGPU when it’s plugged into an external monitor so mine is always pumping out a good amount of heat, even if the fan itself is inaudible. Doing anything that’s not watching a video or browsing the web makes it sound like a jet engine and makes it hot enough to be unusable as a laptop.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:dunno why you guys are so worried about virtualization you can just use the win10 arm build I keep asking this, who the gently caress is running VM's on their laptop? Why are you doing this? Do you just hate yourself? Spin up a VM in a cloud or a datacentre and remote into it. Your laptop is not a good hypervisor. There is no reason for an on-machine VM workflow except if you're somewhere without internet access (and where is that at this point?)
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Mad Wack posted:this guy should get a blue checkmark for being the only keynote user on the planet pages is really bare-bones, and numbers has the impossible job of living up to excel, but keynote actually makes pretty good presentations. been a really long time since i used powerpoint for comparison, tho
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The Management posted:never buying another Intel machine again
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WilWheaton posted:I keep asking this, who the gently caress is running VM's on their laptop? The use case for virtual machines on your laptop is to virtualize the lovely mandatory company supplied domain-integrated windows laptop with all its buggy VPN and security software onto something that doesn't make you want to die when you use it. Parallels is really good at that one thing. Although "modern" >2015 apple laptops make me want to die anyway so I guess it's become obsolete.
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Trabisnikof posted:yeah there are lots of keynote users out there still between keynote and libreoffice, i don't need any ms office installed on my machine, so there's that
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correct me if i'm wrong, but intel never really got the 7nm process down and their chips are at best 10nm. and now apple is releasing their own chip with a 5nm process? how is intel so bad at this?
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Mr. Nice! posted:correct me if i'm wrong, but intel never really got the 7nm process down and their chips are at best 10nm. and now apple is releasing their own chip with a 5nm process? how is intel so bad at this? My understanding is that intel's 10nm node is roughly equivalent to everyone else's 7nm and that the "5 nm" node is really just a minor shrink of certain aspects of the 7nm process and is really 7nm+ or ++ or whatever the gently caress they are saying now
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:My understanding is that intel's 10nm node is roughly equivalent to everyone else's 7nm and that the "5 nm" node is really just a minor shrink of certain aspects of the 7nm process and is really 7nm+ or ++ or whatever the gently caress they are saying now this is how i understood things to stand as well. for that matter nothing is stopping intel from designing a chip and using someone else's fab for it if they wanted except complete and total embarrassment
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mediaphage posted:this is how i understood things to stand as well. it’s not simple to change fabs, you have to design the entire process the rumor is that nvidia’s current supply issues for the 3xxx cards are because they switched off TSMC but Samsung’s process sucked and they’re spinning up TSMC again but it’ll take 6 months or more
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hobbesmaster posted:it’s not simple to change fabs, you have to design the entire process Can't wait for a repeat of the endless quest among tweakers for RAM sticks with the right memory chipset, only for multi-hundred dollar bideo cards... E: Or will they have a different sku for the Sarnsung-fab cards?
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nvidia is the more cores comic except with skus so maybe
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hobbesmaster posted:it’s not simple to change fabs, you have to design the entire process sure i'm not saying they can just go bing bam boom onto tsmc or whatever, but there's nothing theoretically stopping them from putting something out so they can play the marketing numbers game like anyone else. it turns out that amd spinning off their fabs was ultimately the right move, and i do wonder if intel will keep theirs up indefinitely (i don't actually expect them to drop it anytime soon) the same nvidia rumours also say part of the delay is because amd bought up the extra capacity
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rjmccall posted:pages is really bare-bones, and numbers has the impossible job of living up to excel, but keynote actually makes pretty good presentations. been a really long time since i used powerpoint for comparison, tho numbers used to be so good before they iOSified it. most people don’t need the million features of excel in their spreadsheets. BangersInMyKnickers posted:My understanding is that intel's 10nm node is roughly equivalent to everyone else's 7nm and that the "5 nm" node is really just a minor shrink of certain aspects of the 7nm process and is really 7nm+ or ++ or whatever the gently caress they are saying now intel’s 10 nm process doesn’t exist. they literally can’t make chips on it. they are on 14nm. meanwhile TSMC is moving ahead, even if it’s not full steps.
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numbers is good and i enjoy using it and posting in the yospos thread when theres a new release
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The Management posted:numbers used to be so good before they iOSified it. most people don’t need the million features of excel in their spreadsheets. they eeked out some mobile chips but the yields were poo poo and they didn't perform any better than their 14nm counterparts
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so I assume a time machine backup from an Intel Mac would work on an ARM Mac? can't really find any reference to that anywhere.
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why wouldn't it? the cpu architecture doesn't have anything to do with filesystems
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Mad Wack posted:this guy should get a blue checkmark for being the only keynote user on the planet I’m watching a keynote over zoom right now!
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Plorkyeran posted:why wouldn't it? the cpu architecture doesn't have anything to do with filesystems Oh yeah, wasn't really thinking.
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The Management posted:numbers used to be so good before they iOSified it. most people don’t need the million features of excel in their spreadsheets. you can buy a 10nm intel right now in a laptop, but yeah not in a desktop or server chip
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Pulcinella posted:as a laptop. good thing it’s a portable and not a laptop then
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WilWheaton posted:I keep asking this, who the gently caress is running VM's on their laptop? shut up Wesley
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Plorkyeran posted:why wouldn't it? the cpu architecture doesn't have anything to do with filesystems depends on what you're restoring, files in general should be fine assuming they don't do anything in big slur that just straight up breaks time machine volumes (and they might), apps and full system restores won't though
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/article-new/2020/11/mba-multicore.jpg) Not too shabby
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Last Chance posted:
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what do those numbers mean
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I’m withholding my judgement until these actually get into people’s hands. Hard to believe those performance numbers. Also presumably the Air would eventually be thermally throttled and the 16” would overtake it. The air cooled M1 13” pro though... If those numbers are real though, Intel should consider themselves incredibly lucky that Apple probably has no desire to sell these chips to anyone else. They basically just had a heart attack in a hospital and really need to think about getting their poo poo together.
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Pulcinella posted:Edit: Geekbench scores. Not sure how someone managed to run one yet, though. the armbook air is literally 3.5 times faster than the 2019 mba
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fart simpson posted:the armbook air is literally 3.5 times faster than the 2019 mba Hard to believe just because it’s so much faster. Though I guess I can believe Intel has been grifting for years.
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