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Pick posted:The story of Adam and eve has been directly used as a justification for women's oppression. This person said that's not true, having read it. But if you read it, you would never think of the snake is an angel because there's nothing like that in the Bible at all. That's a plot point from Neil Gaiman book. I mean the incredibly common interpretation is that the snake is a manifestation of the devil, who is himself a fallen angel. Or you could call people liars and idiots, I guess.
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big mean giraffe posted:No, racism is prejudice based on someone's race. Stop spouting this nonsense. No, you're the one making up definitions. People who study racism for a living are correct and you don't like it.
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People are allowed to be excited about a female VP. People are also allowed to roll their loving eyes at the former group for acting like Kamala's class identity propelling her to power in spite of her gender is a victory for feminism. Girlboss is 100% what she is. big mean giraffe posted:No, racism is prejudice based on someone's race. Stop spouting this nonsense. You do not know what you're talking about. Educate yourself.
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Rappaport posted:I am amused at the idea that it was Neil Gaiman of all people who connected the snake to the Devil. It's like Paradise Lost was... Lost, in someone's high school curriculum? Nice try, again. But Genesis is really not that long, and you used that as evidence that you have read it. It would be saying that you've clearly read Little Women because you remember the scene with the nascar snail.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Right also, I am guessing removing that shielding also allows for the FBI or whoever to come in and then start really loving their poo poo up if they don't even make an attempt. Probably not the FBI, probably the enforcment bureau of the FCC or whatever deals with communication enforcment. Just threatening to do it would likely tank their stock enough they would fix it.
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Jaxyon posted:No, you're the one making up definitions. Definition of racism 1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race There's the very first definition in the dictionary. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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alpha_destroy posted:I truly don't understand why Pick gets the leeway she gets. We are going on day 2 if not day 3 of her being willfully obtuse in this thread. It's inexplicable to me. Mods get cold feet whenever some clique aligns with their decision, unless they really like them in which case full steam ahead. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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We are literally at the "googling the definition of racism" level of discourse
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Pick posted:Nice try, again. But Genesis is really not that long, and you used that as evidence that you have read it. It would be saying that you've clearly read Little Women because you remember the scene with the nascar snail. I'm not sure what this is addressing? Do you wish to contend, again, that the snake is not the same character as the Devil? Or what? I have read Genesis, though not in your heathen language.
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism So it's come to this.
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me, agruing seriously: the white race is real. so racism against white people is real lol
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism Hahahaha get the gently caress out of here. I tell my freshmen that when they need to define a term as it relates to discourse they need to go to an expert on the field, not the dictionary. This is literally rhet/comp 101 poo poo.
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Is it racist of me to say that white people are really good at committing racism
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Rappaport posted:I'm not sure what this is addressing? Do you wish to contend, again, that the snake is not the same character as the Devil? Or what? I have read Genesis, though not in your heathen language. I'm really curious what languages you think I read the Bible in and why they're wrong. And I do contend that there is no textual evidence that the snake is the devil, again, something that you would very very easily know if you had read Genesis.
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Are you all so out of touch with reality that you don't understand the difference between industry/academic definitions and common usage definitions? There's no way you're that stupid.
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reading the dictionary & reaching enlightenment, its time to open D&D
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism People have written whole books on the intersection of race and power and how racism without power behind it is either meaningless or completely illusory, and your response is "well the dictionary says..." Absolutely lazy. WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Is it racist of me to say that white people are really good at committing racism I might not say "good at" so much as "insistent on."
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism It's pretty funny that you think posting dictionary definitions is an argument. You fundamentally don't understand what a dictionary is or how they work. They are descriptive, not prescriptive.
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism Even small one term college ethics classes tell you not to invoke dictionary definitions. There are after all multiple dictionaries and no laws on what they actually have to say.
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big mean giraffe posted:Are you all so out of touch with reality that you don't understand the difference between industry/academic definitions and common usage definitions? There's no way you're that stupid. Uhhh...you're so close to getting it here
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism A beautiful, glowing, moon of a post.
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism You know what book you should read? Is Everyone Really Equal, it will help you so much on this. I am going to throw a small bone here, Ibram Kendi argues that everyone has racist beliefs and that everyone should be examining the ways they view people and groups of people in the world. Still racism as it exists in the United States is about power structures.
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Big props to that dictionary post for changing topics for us. Really masterfully done honestly.
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big mean giraffe posted:Definition of racism https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52993306 quote:People were copy-and-pasting the definition to her in an attempt to prove racism could only exist if you believe your race to be superior to another. The dictionary disagrees with you lol
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alpha_destroy posted:Big props to that dictionary post for changing topics for us. Really masterfully done honestly. It's an op, OP.
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I see that we’ve exported GE-thread-style “end dogpiles by probing the person getting dogpiled” techniques to USPol, how fun. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 13, 2020 01:30
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Pick posted:I'm really curious what languages you think I read the Bible in and why they're wrong. Oh, my native language is spoken by a relatively small group of people, so it is unlikely you know it, but the heathen thing was a joke, based on the context of arguing about the Bible, you see. And it is, again, amusing that you choose to expound with the seeming might of the Pope himself (herself?) that there is no "textual evidence" in the Bible about this or that, given that it has been used and abused to justify all sorts of things. And you still didn't actually address the point that it's not "Neil Gaiman book" that came up with this crazy idea, it's as much a part of Western literary tradition as Santa Claus. Although, again, I suppose it's a sad thing you've not encountered the works of John Milton before  And, spoiler alert, I don't mean the character in that Al Pacino movie!
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alpha_destroy posted:yes, your gender is fair game when the complaint is largely that you are selling out the more/most oppressed members of your gender. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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its pretty funny how both sides agree on the point (that institutions grant white people privilege, which doesn't invalidate but does contextualize personal-scale instances of prejudice) and yet because someone was using out of date terminology, there's a giant slapfight
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Let's get to the heart of this matter, USPol. Let's get down to the truth about racism.
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JonathonSpectre posted:Let's get to the heart of this matter, USPol. Let's get down to the truth about racism. Webster's truth about racism or Macmillan
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Nov 13, 2020 01:33
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How about politics? https://twitter.com/patricksvitek/status/1326965359744864257 Beto has hopped aboard the “boy, the DNC’s ground game sure sucks” train.
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I didnt think it would take this few days without Trump Tweets before USPOL collapsed, honestly.Gaukler posted:How about politics? Fair to say AOC & co. are winning this fight. Unsurprising since the only retort conservative democrats had was "STOP BEING DIVISIVE!"
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Dixon Chisholm posted:
Conflating feminism or anti-racism with their corporate-appropriated representation-based cousins seems like a good way to disrupt talk about serious, structural change.
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Gaukler posted:How about politics? He sure went to a lot of trouble to not say exactly what policies they should or shouldn't be running on. But at least the DNC is getting critique from someone they won't be willing to just blow off as a psychotic radical.
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Neurolimal posted:Fair to say AOC & co. are winning this fight. Unsurprising since the only retort conservative democrats had was "STOP BEING DIVISIVE!" Watching a party attempt to poo poo on it's most popular young rising star is sure a thing
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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324698828944138243?s=19 The REAL racism is ever making the slightest of criticisms about defunding things or "socialism," however that's defined. There would never be any disagreement about economic matters in a 100% racially homogeneous country! Left/liberals are going to eat themselves alive over this idpol stuff, much like this thread, and avoid any class driven project.
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Gaukler posted:How about politics? I'm not a huge Beto fan, but things like this makes me think he's all right.
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A big flaming stink posted:i think this glosses over the fact that karen as absolutely tied at the hip to whiteness Karen should be reserved for anybody that treats the police as customer service when they have to interact with Black people. Any other use is pretty misogynistic.
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Neurolimal posted:I didnt think it would take this few days without Trump Tweets before USPOL collapsed, honestly. IDK if I'd go that far, Clyburn is making the rounds and spouting the usual bullshit. The consistency in the messaging makes me think there's some concerted pushback, the full extent of which we probably haven't seen yet. https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1327038243171397635 Still it is nice to see Beto make the smart choice for once. If he sticks to his guns when all this comes to a head I wouldn't bet on, but stranger things have happened.
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