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Alchenar posted:Or the prophecy. Or what the Jedi order actually believes in. At least with the Jedi you get to see how they typically behave. With the Sith you have Maul and Sheev, and Maul dies* and Sheev's an outlier.
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Hey so no Ian did not want to do fight scenes at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjdycGgeaIY 4:35
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Good clip, and a sneak peak of the fabled "Anakin lurking in the background" version of the scene.
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Yeah. It’s also crazy how not under wraps the prequels were. I found every spoiler ever through regular released material. Like I got the book just to know spoilers, and I know they switched out the ending, but I had toys and other little leaked things to fill in those gaps. Fun times haha. I’ll never forget the day the NOOOO was leaked and immediately made into a YTMND and a huge meme on that site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcaWJtq3DU
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My favorite was how everyone ran out to buy the soundtrack for TPM the day it was released(first new Star Wars soundtrack in like 20 years, so it was a big deal) and one of the tracks was named "The Death of Qui-Gon".
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The novelisation for the original Star Wars came out almost 6 months before the film. It was based on an earlier script (and so included things like Jabba or Luke as Blue 5) but it still spoiled everything.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The novelisation for the original Star Wars came out almost 6 months before the film. It was based on an earlier script (and so included things like Jabba or Luke as Blue 5) but it still spoiled everything. Because no one cared back then. It was just some silly movie no one had heard about. Mark Hamill tells the story about how he passed the script around to his friends, who passed it around to their friends, who all thought it was the silliest thing they had ever read. That all changed 3 years later. He also tells a great story about when he was told the "I am your father" twist for ESB. That Kershner pulled him aside on the day of shooting and told him, "What I'm about to tell you, only I know, and George Lucas knows, so if it leaks, we'll know it was you." Which I've always thought was hilarious.
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Something I never quite picked up on, and I don't know why, is that McDiarmid is loving great at acting in front of a green screen. The common refrains was 'oh, you can't get good performances in front of a green screen, but Ian just nails every scene, often while interacting with a tennis ball on a blue background. I'm not surprised at all to find out he came from the stage originally. He's very much in the hallowed ranks of amazing classically trained british actors who've ended up with their careers defined by genre films. That opera scene is actually just peak pulp cinema and it rules.
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McDiarmid is the master of chewing imaginary scenery. He's one of the highlights of every SW movie he's in, even counting his awfully contrived appearance in Rise.
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McDiarmid's Palpatine is my favorite character in the entire saga. Ian is just so good at that role; easily one of the top 5 antagonists ever, I would argue.
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Alchenar posted:'Bullet time' is The Matrix. Grrr it's a pet peeve of mine when people call all camera moves pans.
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Alchenar posted:Or the prophecy. Or what the Jedi order actually believes in. Basically this. Looking back I like the vagueness of the Jedi's beliefs too because it's so empty since for so many years their beliefs have clearly been "murder whoever the senate tells us to."
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Gonz posted:McDiarmid's Palpatine is my favorite character in the entire saga. Ian is just so good at that role; easily one of the top 5 antagonists ever, I would argue. In that little clip that got posted, someone said that palpatine is the devil, and McDiarmid absolutely got that and played this larger than life character. He's so good at it that you forget the massive senate scene was probably on a set the size of a living room. Reminded me, weirdly enough, of those old soviet films like Ivan the Terrible, where there is very little subtlety to the performance, since there was a clear line from stage acting to that style of movie acting. PeterWeller posted:McDiarmid is the master of chewing imaginary scenery. He's one of the highlights of every SW movie he's in, even counting his awfully contrived appearance in Rise. UNLIMITED POWERRRRRRRRRRRR! I embarassed about liking that scene as a kid and tried to discount criticism rather than embracing the camp and cheese that is often Star Wars at its best.
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Snowman_McK posted:Something I never quite picked up on, and I don't know why, is that McDiarmid is loving great at acting in front of a green screen. The common refrains was 'oh, you can't get good performances in front of a green screen, but Ian just nails every scene, often while interacting with a tennis ball on a blue background. I'm not surprised at all to find out he came from the stage originally. He's very much in the hallowed ranks of amazing classically trained british actors who've ended up with their careers defined by genre films. Some actors require different things. Ian comes from the stage so he’s probably used to dealing with sets that are just voids.
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Palpatine is Ray's grandfather
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The United States posted:Palpatine is Ray's grandfather yea i am she sucks
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Snowman_McK posted:In that little clip that got posted, someone said that palpatine is the devil, and McDiarmid absolutely got that and played this larger than life character. He's so good at it that you forget the massive senate scene was probably on a set the size of a living room. It works though because if you are encased in that much makeup you have to over-emote or the camera isn't going to see anything. McDiarmid knows when he needs to bring subtlety (the opera scene) and when he needs to go full ham. If anyone wants to see more of him, if you can get ahold of BBC historical-drama 37 days he's fantastic in that (trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B08zSvOJvk).
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:yea i am
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PeterWeller posted:McDiarmid is the master of chewing imaginary scenery. He's one of the highlights of every SW movie he's in, even counting his awfully contrived appearance in Rise. Make a point to look for him? No need, you'll find him when he's in the scene.
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thrawn527 posted:Because no one cared back then. It was just some silly movie no one had heard about. Mark Hamill tells the story about how he passed the script around to his friends, who passed it around to their friends, who all thought it was the silliest thing they had ever read. That all changed 3 years later. Do you have a decent youtube link to him telling those anecdotes? Always enjoy seeing him talk about OT stuff. I honestly don't know how that dude remained so... normal? all these years.
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Corvette Summer probably helped.
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Glottis posted:Do you have a decent youtube link to him telling those anecdotes? Always enjoy seeing him talk about OT stuff. I honestly don't know how that dude remained so... normal? all these years. You're in luck! He told both when on Graham Norton for The Last Jedi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYgY8xXFCOY
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Alchenar posted:It works though because if you are encased in that much makeup you have to over-emote or the camera isn't going to see anything. McDiarmid knows when he needs to bring subtlety (the opera scene) and when he needs to go full ham. Oh yeah, i know why it works, but I used to be one of those people who defended the prequels by going 'no, the silly stuff isn't that silly' while the correct response is 'of course it's silly. The bad guy is satan helped out by dracula to defeat the laser sword wielding space wizards in the past/future.' I did a bit of a run of the star wars knockoffs/cash ins, like Ice Pirates and Space Adventure Cobra. Is there a list of that kind of film? You know, the 'not star wars for legal reasons' type films.
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McDiarmid Discourse reminds me of how the first time I started realizing how much of a hack Tim Burton was, was when I realized he’d cast McDiarmid, michael gambon, AND the Christophers Lee and Walken in Sleepy Hollow, and barely let them nibble on the scenery at all, or even share scenes.
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That sheev video reminds me of how open they were about the production of the prequels compared to the new ones. The Vader father reveal really just broke star wars. The sequels are just endlessly chasing the high of that reveal
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:McDiarmid Discourse reminds me of how the first time I started realizing how much of a hack Tim Burton was, was when I realized he’d cast McDiarmid, michael gambon, AND the Christophers Lee and Walken in Sleepy Hollow, and barely let them nibble on the scenery at all, or even share scenes. Walken doesnt even talk in that, does he?
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Bootleg Trunks posted:Walken doesnt even talk in that, does he? He hisses and snarls some.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:McDiarmid Discourse reminds me of how the first time I started realizing how much of a hack Tim Burton was, was when I realized he’d cast McDiarmid, michael gambon, AND the Christophers Lee and Walken in Sleepy Hollow, and barely let them nibble on the scenery at all, or even share scenes. Holy gently caress that's true.
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Lmao, yeah. That's a really good point. I didn't even realize.
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josh04 posted:The corkscrew jump is self-justifying, sorry "He spins now!"
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A true teacher is constantly learning from their pupils.
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Communist Thoughts posted:"He spins now!" It is a good trick.
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"Is it possible to learn this trick?" "Not from the Senate."
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Vinylshadow posted:They spin now?! He spins now...
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The novelisation for the original Star Wars came out almost 6 months before the film. It was based on an earlier script (and so included things like Jabba or Luke as Blue 5) but it still spoiled everything. David Prowse talked about how Vader is Luke's father at a talk he was giving at a school or something like six months before ESB came out.
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Neo Rasa posted:David Prowse talked about how Vader is Luke's father at a talk he was giving at a school or something like six months before ESB came out. Well, yes and no, he threw that idea out in an interview in 1978, but it was almost certainly him joking around, since A this was two years before the movie came out and B the whole “obi-wan killed your father” dodge on set was, by all accounts, specifically designed to keep Prowse from figuring it out because he’d been leaking poo poo to journalists in return for promos on his exercise books, so it’s doubtful they would have actually told him.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Well, yes and no, he threw that idea out in an interview in 1978, but it was almost certainly him joking around, since A this was two years before the movie came out and B the whole “obi-wan killed your father” dodge on set was, by all accounts, specifically designed to keep Prowse from figuring it out because he’d been leaking poo poo to journalists in return for promos on his exercise books, so it’s doubtful they would have actually told him. Ya know, I'm beginning to see why Lucas was pissed with him
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McCloud posted:Ya know, I'm beginning to see why Lucas was pissed with him
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