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On a 55" screen it's fine, at 27" I wouldn't be so confident. It seems to me the new consoles should be able to do a mean 1440p60, but I guess it's just down to a lack of 1440p TVs.
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K8.0 posted:LG 34GN850, but you're paying like three times as much for 35% more monitor. If you're into that kind of gross excess why not look at the 38GN950? But then you realize it costs more than an LG 48" CX OLED. But then you realize it's 48" so now you're remodeling your computer room. When I search for the 34GN850 on Amazon, it seems to link to the 34GP83A-B. Are these the same?
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Jeff Fatwood posted:Well, because they couldn't do even 60 in all the titles. 4k120 TVs didn't even exist back then. Cheap 144hz monitors are abundant now and the PS5 could easily drive 1080/120, what the hell. It seems like such a dumb and weird oversight. I mean yeah, obviously the PS4 couldn't do 120Hz, as you say. But I meant that the PS4 also couldn't output at 1440p at all, even though it could do 1080p and 4k. Reading back, that part wasn't clear in my post. But yeah, not doing 1080p@120 is very strange, and something that we might see added in a firmware update in the not too distant future, much like they don't have VRR enabled yet.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:34
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three posted:When I search for the 34GN850 on Amazon, it seems to link to the 34GP83A-B. Are these the same? They use the same panel and are mostly the same.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:39
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Looking for a 1440p monitor somewhere around the $250 price range. I have a GTX 1660 Super if that matters. 27-inch, IPS, non-curved are all preferred but I'm flexible if the price is right.
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Nov 16, 2020 21:39
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Jeff Wiiver posted:Looking for a 1440p monitor somewhere around the $250 price range. I have a GTX 1660 Super if that matters. 27-inch, IPS, non-curved are all preferred but I'm flexible if the price is right. If you don't need it RIGHT NOW and can afford to wait a week or two, the LG 27GL83A-B is the current thread favorite for a lot of good reasons. 27" 1440p@165Hz IPS FreeSync/GSync Compatible. The only thing it doesn't have is a stand that swivels (it tilts and has height and rotation adjustment). It's $380 normally, but vey regularly you can grab it for $260-$280 from Amazon Warehouse. "Used - Acceptable" for the two I bought ended up meaning "effective or literally new in box, but the box has scratches / dents in it." A+ would buy "used" for 1/3 off again.
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Is there some kind of insane item sniping needed? I haven't seen anything below $340 used amazon warehouse and I look periodically for weeks
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Nov 16, 2020 21:58
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I didn't need to, no. I got mine in late Oct and when I bought them there were 6 others available, and stayed available for a day or two. 
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Biowarfare posted:Is there some kind of insane item sniping needed? I haven't seen anything below $340 used amazon warehouse and I look periodically for weeks If you find one for cheap give a shout-out and I’ll do the same I’d like to grab that monitor
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Biowarfare posted:Is there some kind of insane item sniping needed? I haven't seen anything below $340 used amazon warehouse and I look periodically for weeks Last time I randomly looked there were 2 or 3 at I think $285? Just keep checking.
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On the topic of the LG 27GLxxx series - there are some decent discounts in the UK atm. The 27GL83-A is £430 at Amazon, but Currys are selling the very similar 27GL850-B at £339. I'm seriously tempted to pick one up as a second (matching) display!
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Nov 17, 2020 00:38
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lordfrikk posted:If you're gonna use the monitor for other things then I'd say it's worth it otherwise I would say no. Everything is so crisp on 4K (especially at 27" or 28") that having blurry games is just so much more noticeable. For me, anyway I was worried about that, problem is I can't really tell how bad it would be until the monitor is in front of me. One thing I've seen is that certain 1440p monitors will accept a 4k signal and then downscale it internally, which seems like a perfect solution. 1440p is a far more achievable goal for a GPU upgrade down the line and I would be able to play PS5 games in 1440p with supersampling, which probably looks loving insane. Any glaring downsides with this idea?
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Nov 17, 2020 00:59
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FallenGod posted:I was worried about that, problem is I can't really tell how bad it would be until the monitor is in front of me. I think it makes sense, from the little I have read about it. I've read that there is a chance Sony will add 1440p as a resolution to the PS5 in a firmware update, too, although I have no idea about the odds of that actually happening. Consoles being geared toward TVs means it is easier for them to ignore common monitor resolutions, although I guess the new Xbox will output 1440p from the getgo. If a monitor has downscaling from 4k to 1440p that looks good it seems like a good compromise. To be clear, though, I'm not familiar with consoles in general. I think the last time I played a console game at all was in like 2010 at the house of a family member.
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I'll keep researching it, the hardest part is manufacturers seem to actively avoid advertising the feature / the resolution as supported, to the point where it gets mentioned as "virtual 4k" in a one-off press copy from Gigabyte but isn't listed anywhere on the monitor's product page itself. One archived Asus monitor manual lists the resolution as supported, but it is then scrubbed from a newer version of the same manual on their own site. Some redditors think the feature is intrinsic to HDMI 2.0, some claim only certain monitors support it.  This is way more complicated than it needs to be, thanks Sony.
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I doubt it's manufacturers hiding it, rather it's just a weird thing that people only recently started to care about. Obviously there is now a demand for whatever weird scaling and other bullshit that xbox and playstation require to do high refresh rate/vrr, so I'm sure OEMs will start advertising it more. It probably won't get better for ~a year until new product lifecycles get kicked off. Also by then you may see more hdmi 2.1 products.
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monitors have never been great at upscaling/downscaling so you'd prefer the device (console, PC, etc.) to do it
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Biowarfare posted:Is there some kind of insane item sniping needed? I haven't seen anything below $340 used amazon warehouse and I look periodically for weeks I think you just have to get lucky, since Warehouse stock updates constantly. Earlier tonight I picked up a 27GL83-A "acceptable" listing for ~$270 after refreshing periodically for the past couple of days, so they're definitely still being posted. I'll probably be looking for another to go with it too, so I'm not done with the refreshing yet.
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Yeah IDK wtf, I haven't seen a used one that was cheaper than the new (or by a legitimate seller, tbh) all day:
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Nov 17, 2020 09:22
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Ah, you don't want to look in the normal used listings or listings posted by other sellers. Amazon Warehouse is stock sold directly by Amazon that, for whatever reason, they cannot sell as new. Most Amazon Warehouse stock is probably products that were returned after very light or essentially no use. Do a search for the 27GL83-A on the Amazon Warehouse section of the site and you should see listings pop in and out throughout the day (though in my experience most will be for more expensive "like new" listings).
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Thanks! This explains a lot. It's weird because I explicitly remember seeing "sold by: amazon warehouse" under the normal used sections
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at least until recently where amazon has been routinely stocking them, in canada the warehouse deals a-bs were actually considerably more expensive than new ones, despite being used and listed with various cosmetic damages
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I'm looking for something IPS with great contrast / colors in the 27"+ range, I don't really care about refresh rate or gaming performance. Is there any great alternative to the LG 27MD5KL-B? I see them refurbished in the $1175 range.
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BlackMK4 posted:I'm looking for something IPS with great contrast / colors in the 27"+ range, I don't really care about refresh rate or gaming performance. https://www.newegg.com/black-aoc-90v-series-u2790vq-27/p/N82E16824160380?Description=Monitor&cm_re=Monitor-_-24-160-380-_-Product this? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824025982?Description=Monitor&cm_re=Monitor-_-24-025-982-_-Product
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Biowarfare posted:Thanks! This explains a lot. It's weird because I explicitly remember seeing "sold by: amazon warehouse" under the normal used sections They'll pop up there, too. Looking at the Warehouse portion of the site itself might show them earlier or something, I don't know. I got mine off the normal product page Used section, like you had there.
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Any decent TV with dolby vision and a 1440p 120hz w HDRmode?
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Don't buy monitors from newegg. Only buy monitors from places with good return policies.BlackMK4 posted:I'm looking for something IPS with great contrast / colors in the 27"+ range, I don't really care about refresh rate or gaming performance. I mean if that relatively minor upgrade is worth paying 3x what you'd pay for a 4k monitor, go for it I guess.
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so I googled around and am reading that with linux the proprietary nvidia driver won't do 240 hz and the open driver doesn't either. anybody know anything about this or if they're working on a fix?
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Food Boner posted:so I googled around and am reading that with linux the proprietary nvidia driver won't do 240 hz and the open driver doesn't either. anybody know anything about this or if they're working on a fix? I'm unaware of that and a quick search doesn't turn up much. I'm running the proprietary Nvidia driver in Linux and getting 144hz, so at least that refresh seems fine. Edit: A bit more search just finds results of people not realizing their GPUs couldn't push that refresh rate or were using a cable connection that didn't support it. I'm really not seeing anything specifically about Nvidia drivers not supporting 240hz in Linux. CaptainSarcastic fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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K8.0 posted:I mean if that relatively minor upgrade is worth paying 3x what you'd pay for a 4k monitor, go for it I guess. What is the comparable 27" 4k display?
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It depends exactly what feature set you want, but for example the LG 27UK850 is generally a very well-regarded 4k monitor, and (like most of the mac-focused / USB-C offerings) is definitely on the more expensive end. It's not capable of quite the blinding maximum brightness and they don't claim quite as much contrast, but unless this is a primary money maker it's hard to justify the price difference.
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Eh, $1200-1400 isn't that much for something that I use 8-10hr a day and has a lifespan somewhere in the 3 year area, especially in the context of other things money gets spent on. I appreciate a nice panel, if there is something similar in the 27-34" area I'd also be interested in that.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I'm unaware of that and a quick search doesn't turn up much. I'm running the proprietary Nvidia driver in Linux and getting 144hz, so at least that refresh seems fine. this post is what got me looking into https://bit.ly/2IMraKP e: they can select 1440p@240hz in windows but in ubuntu 20.04 they can't get it working
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Looking for recs again. Built a new PC in May and splurged on dual LG 27GL83A-Bs. Wife has been working from home a ton like everyone, so she started using my old 1080 monitor as a second monitor for her Mac. Of course compared to her Mac's display, the old 1080 monitor looks like rear end. She's now dropped hints (ie - "THIS IS WHAT I WANT") for Xmas that she'd like a better secondary monitor, and what the Hell - why not two? So. She does web design work. Lots of photoshop. Lots of illustrator. Some times she designs fliers and things like that that end up getting printed, so color quality matters to an extent. She will never play a single game at all. I'd like to get her something with a high pixel density, but monitors matching the Mac's density are just absurd. I'd go with a couple more 27GL83A-Bs, but I assume a part of their price is the low response time / 144hz refresh rate? Is there a 27" 4K monitor out there with maybe a slower response time or lower refresh rate in the same ball park money wise? Ok - about to post when I bothered to go back and read the last couple pages... This seems to be the same question, though I'm not willing to buy a 5K monitor. BlackMK4 posted:I'm looking for something IPS with great contrast / colors in the 27"+ range, I don't really care about refresh rate or gaming performance. wargames posted:https://www.newegg.com/black-aoc-90v-series-u2790vq-27/p/N82E16824160380?Description=Monitor&cm_re=Monitor-_-24-160-380-_-Product Not a fan of NewEgg's return policy, but Amazon has the LG 27UL550-W at $380 or so. https://www.amazon.com/LG-27UL550-W-Monitor-Freesync-Technology/dp/B07PX8JMJV I think this fits the bill for her pretty well. 4k, IPS display. Slower response time and refreshrate, but for her kind of work, I assume 60hz isn't going to be an issue. Anyone with more knowledge than me able to weigh in on this? Any other recs? Would like to figure out what I'm looking for in the coming weeks in order to jump on a deal if one pops up.
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Food Boner posted:this post is what got me looking into https://bit.ly/2IMraKP That's a Samsung G9 which appears to be a weird 32:9 aspect ratio monitor. They are trying to run 5120x1440 at 240hz, which may have Windows support and not yet Linux support at higher refresh rates. The person with the G7 in the comments doesn't provide enough information to make it clear if they are just running into the whole card/cable not handling the display output they are trying to get. Edit: What is your concern about this, anyway? Do you want a 240hz monitor running under Linux, and have a need for that high a refresh rate? Do you have a 240hz monitor running under Windows and are thinking of installing Linux? What programs will you be running that need a refresh rate that high? What is the problem you are seeing here? CaptainSarcastic fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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Tony Phillips posted:Looking for recs again. Built a new PC in May and splurged on dual LG 27GL83A-Bs. Wife has been working from home a ton like everyone, so she started using my old 1080 monitor as a second monitor for her Mac. Of course compared to her Mac's display, the old 1080 monitor looks like rear end. She's now dropped hints (ie - "THIS IS WHAT I WANT") for Xmas that she'd like a better secondary monitor, and what the Hell - why not two? Yeah, for a designer on Mac with no gaming requirements you definitely want 4K IPS with good color reproduction. 5K is unreasonably expensive as you say. Macs don't really support high refresh rate all that well anyway. If you can't find the 27UL550 at a reasonable price there are cheaper alternatives, both from LG and from other brands.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:That's a Samsung G9 which appears to be a weird 32:9 aspect ratio monitor. They are trying to run 5120x1440 at 240hz, which may have Windows support and not yet Linux support at higher refresh rates. The person with the G7 in the comments doesn't provide enough information to make it clear if they are just running into the whole card/cable not handling the display output they are trying to get. I work in linux and do some gaming on a separate windows install and was thinking about picking up this monitor. I'm sure I could live with 120 hz or whatever in ubuntu.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDB9sONfJ5Q Check out that ultra setting on backlight strobing (19 minutes)  The downsides don't make it quite worthwhile yet but in a few years...
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K8.0 posted:That's not an ultrawide, 16:9 is the standard widescreen AR. That said, ultrawide is the single most budget-unfriendly thing you can ask for on a monitor.  ) for work and I just couldn't find it in me to spend on a new monitor.Buuuuuuut.... work from home is extended indefinitely and likely through to next summer, so there's funds available for home office stuff that we'll use. So I'm thinking either the 27GL83A, AOC CQ34G2E, or the Scepter C355W. Doing photoshop, video editing, light website maintenance poo poo, but definitely don't want ghosting to be too noticeable. Is it just "Go with the IPS over VA"?
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FilthyImp posted:don't want ghosting to be too noticeable. Pretty much, yeah.
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Is there a quick way to check if a cable is HDMI 2.0 (or 2.1)? My monitor's on the way, and I'm not sure if my cable's right. I don't have anything to test it with atm. Should work, but I don't know if it's 1440p 144Hz capable. Says "High Speed HDMI" and some codes, the one's I've googled haven't helped.
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