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Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

Azhais posted:

vvv I actually didn't realize Amazon owned IMDB. Guess I shouldn't be surprised at the production quality then, I was expecting something a little low rent from IMDB but it was well shot

IMDB TV (or Amazon) had nothing to do with the production. IIRC it aired in Europe months before it was announced they had bought the US rights. Season 2 was also announced a little while ago.

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Sekhmnet
Jan 22, 2019


Norwegian Rudo posted:

IMDB TV (or Amazon) had nothing to do with the production. IIRC it aired in Europe months before it was announced they had bought the US rights. Season 2 was also announced a little while ago.

Is it the same kind of deal like how netflix shows British tv shows as 'netflix originals'?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Latest John Wilson is loving incredible

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
Moonbase 8 is okay. Definitely better than Space Force

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Why is Moon Base so short? Just a minshow or is there a second half of a season coming?

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Khanstant posted:

Why is Moon Base so short? Just a minshow or is there a second half of a season coming?

I don't know how common this is, but Moonbase was developed and filmed completely before they started shopping it to a network to air. It might have been something like them not wanting to spend a lot of money on something that no network would bite on.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
FireTV devices are finally getting HBO Max tomorrow.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/vulture/status/1328435645157662723

Unless what? This is a terrorist demand right?

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I was going to write that Kelsey Grammar had to have been on 30 Rock at some point, and then I remembered that he played himself in multiple episodes. I think he accidentally killed someone in one episode?

Been a long time since I've rewatched any of 30 Rock.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I can't remember if he killed someone. He was played up as this sophisticated con man from Jenna's past who would scheme with her and Kenneth in big showy con jobs. He might have killed someone in one of them. Its around the wavelength of the character.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
No, Kenneth and Jenna think they killed Pete and ask Kelsey to help them hide the body. He creates a distraction by putting on a one man show about the life of Abraham Lincoln. In the other episode he helps Jenna and Kenneth scam Carvel.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
He also helped beat Kenneth out of the Best Friends Gang

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/vulture/status/1328435645157662723

Unless what? This is a terrorist demand right?

They did great work in two of the best sitcoms of all time but this makes me feel absolutely zero anticipation. It’s the weirdest loving thing.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ugly In The Morning posted:

They did great work in two of the best sitcoms of all time but this makes me feel absolutely zero anticipation. It’s the weirdest loving thing.

Well they're excellent examples of toxic men on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

oof this Gizmodo review of the new Animaniacs is real bad

quote:

The series fails in part because it didn’t update its nostalgia to make sense for fans who were kids then but are adults now. Instead, it’s stuck in the ‘90s. This presents itself in dated references to things like Seinfeld’s “The dingo ate your baby” and a Cold War-esque view of Russia. During times Animaniacs skews more modern, the satire is not “biting,”—as Dot herself claims in an early episode—it’s weak. At one point, the characters literally have to turn to the camera and explain that the episode’s storyline about multiplying “buns” (bunnies) was actually a commentary on guns. I’ve seen better stuff on TikTok—using the Animaniacs.

It also runs aground with some outdated cultural norms; I watched these episodes on the same day that AP Stylebook, the journalism Bible, put out a notice that terms like “insane,” “crazy,” and “nuts” should not be used in a derogatory way (they’re ableist against people with mental health issues, and it’s generally good practice to avoid them). Animaniacs uses those terms, a lot, much like the series did during its original run. Just fair warning if they make you uncomfortable.

What? Animaniacs making obscure references to pop culture from 40 years earlier! I don't believe it. Also lol at the Appeal to the AP Stylebook. And it's mean about shows she likes

quote:

Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Bojack Horseman, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, Infinity Train, and so many others have made huge impacts on culture over the last several years. This is largely thanks to the growing push for diversity behind the scenes, something that was sorely lacking in the days of The Animaniacs. Instead of using satire to make commentary on all the ways animation has both changed and progressed in the years since the series ended, it instead chooses to be mean-spirited—insulting the modern animation style, “cute shows,” and anime. It’s all stuff people like for good reason. Given how often Spielberg has decried the changing media landscape, going so far as to try and prevent streaming movies from Oscar contention, it doesn’t surprise me that Animaniacs would take a similar angle of mockery instead of satire that fits.

This from a retrospective on the original show

quote:

Spielberg’s comment may have been tongue-in-cheek, but it also plays into the kind of criticisms that could be tossed at the show. For all its comedic freedoms, it also can be too esoteric and “entertainment insider-y,” with whole gags and skits requiring specific knowledge of actors, media, politics, or social behavior. Television and film has been producing deep, purposely self-aware material from the beginning, but Animaniacs’ philosophy could be aggressive, hyper-comic satire on almost every aspect of entertainment from throughout its history. Parodies and celebrity putdowns were one thing, but the show’s deep well of jokes even hit radio, social/cultural commentary, fan culture, and the production of the media itself.

Maybe the Gizmodo reviewer has neither seen nor heard of the original show

zoux fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Nov 16, 2020

Cael
Feb 2, 2004

I get this funky high on the yellow sun.

quote:

For all its comedic freedoms, it also can be too esoteric and “entertainment insider-y,” with whole gags and skits requiring specific knowledge of actors, media, politics, or social behavior.

Even if they SAW the show it's clear they missed the point . . .

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Cael posted:

Even if they SAW the show it's clear they missed the point . . .

Like look at the "origin story" here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bpozVvY574

How many kids in the 90's had the slightest clue who those people are.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

zoux posted:

Well they're excellent examples of toxic men on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

oof this Gizmodo review of the new Animaniacs is real bad


What? Animaniacs making obscure references to pop culture from 40 years earlier! I don't believe it. Also lol at the Appeal to the AP Stylebook. And it's mean about shows she likes


This from a retrospective on the original show


Maybe the Gizmodo reviewer has neither seen nor heard of the original show

For what it's worth, Sepinwall, who did watch the original, is pretty dubious about the reboot as well. Also, please enjoy a bonus tsking from Tom Ruegger who was not invited to the new party.
https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1328368985981784065

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://mobile.twitter.com/montie/status/1328449454521856004

Haha what's Gillian doing

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY


Haha. Nothing. It basically makes her an out and out good guy and genius. She's portrayed as coming in and rescuing the failing political system and being, basically, a socialist. Its full on apologia.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

That dude is a Leaver so I thought maybe it had her pouring gallons of milk down the storm drain while weeping Scottish children looked on.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

I really liked it. Not entirely what I was expecting, but a solid ending for a time travel show.


Destiny is All!

Kept the marathon going until I reached the beginning of the third season.

Uthered is the dumbest mofo on TV and I had to stop watching in the midst of the second ep. What a frustrating character. I feel like the realism of the show also took a massive dip.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I think Uhtred being extremely frustrating is the best part of his character. Motherfucker would be king of all England if he wasn't so stubborn and proud. Alexander Dreymon really sells the emotion of the character as well, I find his actions, while dumb as poo poo, to be completely consistent. He's kind of like a way younger Ned Stark, in the sense he has a sense of honor that he utterly adheres to no matter how many times it fucks up his life.

What did you think was unrealistic in the 3rd season?

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


zoux posted:

Well they're excellent examples of toxic men on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

oof this Gizmodo review of the new Animaniacs is real bad


What? Animaniacs making obscure references to pop culture from 40 years earlier! I don't believe it. Also lol at the Appeal to the AP Stylebook. And it's mean about shows she likes


This from a retrospective on the original show


Maybe the Gizmodo reviewer has neither seen nor heard of the original show

'A reference to Seinfeld's "Dingo ate your baby"'

is the reviewer aware that's a) itself a reference to a movie and b) based on real life events

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

zoux posted:

I think Uhtred being extremely frustrating is the best part of his character. Motherfucker would be king of all England if he wasn't so stubborn and proud. Alexander Dreymon really sells the emotion of the character as well, I find his actions, while dumb as poo poo, to be completely consistent. He's kind of like a way younger Ned Stark, in the sense he has a sense of honor that he utterly adheres to no matter how many times it fucks up his life.

What did you think was unrealistic in the 3rd season?

i feel like Alfred suffers a memory wipe after every season finale. Like he's supposed to be this brilliant scheming monarch. But he always fucks with his most important warrior. And every season is about him realizing his worth due to Uhterd saving his rear end and the kingdom once again.

And yes maybe thats the point and gives Uhterd some justification for his actions but when Uhterd holds him hostage I wasnt thinking of the way religion and pride ruins relationships and politics I was immediately flashing back to shows like Scandal where every act break needed something insane and over the top.

This shows feels like its a wheel and I dont feel like the characters have grown at all. In fact the hostage thing makes Uthtered dumber than when he was barely an adult canonically.

The fact the books had him just escape Wincester instead of holding the King hostage and inexplicably getting away with shows the show runners purposefully went with something flashy even when it veered from the original material just because it was more exciting even if it felt more hackneyed.

Eh...I dunno, I'll get back to it. Probably.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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It works best in the first season, because all subsequent seasons feel like (and are) rehashes of that storyline, but it's a conceit somewhat necessary to keep him just off the center of historical events. If the protagonist were a historical person, they'd spend most of the series uninvolved, and without Uhtred's tempertantrum resets, he'd be the most powerful man in all of England...

It's eye-rolling, but worth the absurdity to keep him relevant, to me. The show is like if 2005-era Ridley Scott made a show, and I just enjoy it so much!

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh in the game you get penalized for killing nuns and priests, speaking of unrealistic. I'm a loving viking!!!

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Escobarbarian posted:

Latest John Wilson is loving incredible

yeah? furniture covering people sure are weird... oh... OH. Yes I never thought I'd see such a thing, incredible.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Uhtred is the most entitled protagonist I've seen on tv. His dogged charm is the only reason the show isn't cancelled for celebrating toxic masculinity. And his abs.

Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

Sekhmnet posted:

Is it the same kind of deal like how netflix shows British tv shows as 'netflix originals'?

I think in this case the production company financed the show on their own and then made deals for the various territories. In most cases "Netflix Originals" are shows that have been commisioned by a broadcaster in one territory.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
and, ironically enough, Netflix loses the rights to some of its 'Netflix Originals' every once in a while...

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

and, ironically enough, Netflix loses the rights to some of its 'Netflix Originals' every once in a while...

Gonna laugh so hard if they somehow lose the first three seasons of longmire and keep the ones they made.

Then be bummed cause it’s a real good show.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

It works best in the first season, because all subsequent seasons feel like (and are) rehashes of that storyline, but it's a conceit somewhat necessary to keep him just off the center of historical events. If the protagonist were a historical person, they'd spend most of the series uninvolved, and without Uhtred's tempertantrum resets, he'd be the most powerful man in all of England...

It's eye-rolling, but worth the absurdity to keep him relevant, to me. The show is like if 2005-era Ridley Scott made a show, and I just enjoy it so much!

Does it get better from the beginning of the third season? I spoiled myself on stuff later in the season and it doesn't seem to.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Mu Zeta posted:

Uhtred is the most entitled protagonist I've seen on tv. His dogged charm is the only reason the show isn't cancelled for celebrating toxic masculinity. And his abs.

Literally entitled, an ealdorman of Northumbria!

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1328733633704845314

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Shageletic posted:

Does it get better from the beginning of the third season? I spoiled myself on stuff later in the season and it doesn't seem to.

Does Uhtred ever stop punching himself in the dick? Not really, but he ~grows~ in his own way...

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
The tonal shifts in Norsemen are kinda weird

Not the stuff where it's like "ha ha we're pillaging this village" I mean how the show will suddenly just be actually serious randomly, like when the Jarl shows up

Still drat funny

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Conan O'Brien has announced that Conan (the talk show on TBS) will end next summer. He will move over to HBO Max for a weekly variety show and continue to put out Conan without Borders on TBS.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://mobile.twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1328750606962499584

Literally hurts to look at.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible




Steppenwolf? More like Staplewoof!

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I've seen that movie and have no idea who Steppenwolf is.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

zoux posted:

Literally entitled, an ealdorman of Northumbria!

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1328733633704845314

It's kind of hard to sympathize with him but in context his birthright was stolen, he gets abducted and raised by the enemies of his people and embraces their lifestyle, turns around and works for the King, pulling off massive victories and success and yet still gets poo poo on for not being a good little Christian knight.

He also definitely fucks up more then once and keeps getting second chances from Alfred which he doesn't really appreciate because he didn't view the gently caress ups as that big of a deal. Which is kind of important as he still identifies as a Dane and killing a servant who was stealing from you is completely legal and normal in that culture (if you pay the weregild or whatever)

Its a pretty good Square peg round hole story where despite everything Uhtred doesn't really betray his oaths or ideals while in the show tons of people did whenever it suited them for political gain.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Nov 17, 2020

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