t a s t e posted:

I’m pretty sure I lead games in posts more frequently than not op

Rhjamiz posted:

Now that I’m off work I have some time to catch up. Squiggs case is the flimsiest justification for a vote possible, but Ceylon is the more scummy for his vote. Just the absolute worst.

##vote Ceyton

Grandicap posted:

This is such shade for no goddamn reason. I didn't read posts before I entered the game, I am actively reading all posts past my entry into the thread. Seeing that many unread posts while not being in the game for less than 24 hours is disheartening. But this isn't a defense of my choice, it's the back handed reference to an event that has long since past and been rectified. It's the restoking of suspicion on me for reasons. This post is oozing with scum-mind. The calling out Keane is weird too. This response is to:

Grandicap posted:

Are you implying that Rhjamiz and I are scum together, and I am protecting him? Or am I reading too much into your post and you are just talking to be heard now that you are able to without a silly PR?

Sandwolf posted:

he even posted like 100+ times in 20 minutes to steal control of a lurker gun from someone (me), just because he didn't trust I wasn't scum.

Ceyton posted:

That's loving amazing.

Ceyton posted:

I voted you because I'm looking for someone who is a) low participation, and b) has scum pings outside of low participation.

Rhjamiz posted:

Why is A a priority?

quote:

A Lurker is a player who rarely posts, and when they do post, it's insubstantial, shitposting, or otherwise unhelpful. A good benchmark to see if someone is lurking is if a player has fewer posts than the game's moderator, whose postcount is typically very low.

Lurkers are considered to be one of the biggest nuisances in a game, since it's oftentimes impossible to actually determine if they are town or scum, since they post so infrequently.
Types of Lurkers

Standard Lurker: a player who is clearly in over their head, doesn't have the time to post substantive content, and can barely keep up with the thread. A mod should replace them if it is going to be a chronic problem. This type can be town or scum, since they are lurking for reasons generally unrelated to their alignment.

Scum Lurker: a scum player who is intentionally posting infrequently in order to avoid suspicion. This person is scum in real life.

Power Role Lurker: a town power role lurking to avoid getting attention of a nightkill. This is lame. If you're a townie you do far more for your team by posting frequently, making cases, and breadcrumbing your results, than you do by hiding in the shadows.

Content Lurker: a player who posts frequently, but rarely says anything substantive. This is seen as very scummy, since by posting often a player can dodge accusations of being a lurker, but by saying little they still have the same problems as lurkers: being impossible to determine if they are town or scum.


Players have tried to organize systematic lynches on lurkers, in order to both remove the uncertainty, and to punish lurking so as to encourage active posting in the community. Most players are reluctant, however, because lynching a lurker is seen as a crapshoot.

Still, anecdotally, it seems to be the case that in most games, most of the scum are lurkers. But townies often lurk right with them. And that's terrible.

Ceyton posted:

Ceyton posted:

Do I really need to paraphrase why lurking tends to harm town?

Sandwolf posted:

Kinda, your response felt a little bit like an appeal to authority, like 'oh everyone knows lurking is anti-town' (it is) without responding as to why lurkers are your primary concern atm

Sandwolf posted:

##vote DGK

Rhjamiz posted:

Why is A a priority?

Ceyton posted:

Do I really need to paraphrase why lurking tends to harm town?

SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:

literally looking for a safe place to park a vote instead of hunting scum

Hal Incandenza posted:

Heartbroken we lost Mills even if he was scum

Sandwolf posted:

No offense IP I got a somewhat townie vibe from you but you still haven’t posted many reads or feelings

Ceyton posted:

That's an actual decent case, and Rhjamiz is one of the worst lurkers. You win, Squiggs.

##vote Rhjamiz

sandnavyguy posted:

Understand on the pressure vote,

I’m honestly thinking scum hat has taken a vow of silence ITT, and we need to rule them up a bit.

Set up spec is a dangerous hole I won’t jump into, but with scum/town multi kill nights if that does keep happening, I’m thinking we’ll see some easy lurker kills at night too, so I don’t understand why people think that’s the gold standard play this game?

Sandwolf posted:

strongly reading Squiggly as town post-PR

Gumball Gumption posted:

This is the only was I was able to read it, not sure why Grandi is reading into it so much.

DGK2000 posted:

Why, you worried we'll lunch one of your lurking scumbros?

Sandwolf posted:

DGK/Chic - anything to add?

Sandwolf posted:

Rhjamiz is engaging with you, responding to things, they seem sorta thoughtful here? I'm not really getting a scumvibe from them rn

and hey Hal! I know I do it a lot! That's why I'm tryna reasonably explain the dangers of that kinda thinking

Sandwolf posted:

also kinda sussed out by taste, popping in, dropping a vote, popping out

slightly meta but it's a very different vibe than a game where he was just town

Ceyton posted:

Although I will also admit I'm being influenced by Bif here. I have fairly high confidence she's town, as you yourself do.

Sandwolf posted:

##vote DGK

Sandwolf posted:

I think he meant in your own words

Hal Incandenza posted:

Who is this DGK person? They are a player in this game?

I do recall then charging to my defense once yesterday and inviting me to a get together so I suppose I am being disingenuous here... but yeah DGK has been very quiet

Sandwolf posted:

strongly reading Squiggly as town post-PR

DGK2000 posted:

Same

SalTheBard posted:

I thought there was a lot of pressure on Hal early on D2 that I couldn't tell if it was scum trying to circle the wagons about a potential D2 mis cuddle (like Rarity) or town honing in on scum. As I said before I tend to operate from the perspective that everyone is town until proven scum. I think this is why I'm bad at the deduction side of Mafia.

I did think SNG coming in, shooting both guns at Hal was a bit weird. I also thought the whole "Hal isn't posting much" was a weird angle from some people too because Hal seemed very active D1.

I'm now back to this Ice Phoenix interaction. Like I get what IP is going for here but holy poo poo the B- and Mills answer is making my head spin.

I'm feeling very good about Sandwolf in general because typically when I see people pressing for reads that is a very pro town maneuver.

I'm going to post some more here in a minute. Only up to like page 26 or so.

sandnavyguy posted:

Have you just not been reading any of my posts?

I'm literally voting to force people into the conversation because I think we *should* be lunching the lurkers.

I didn't peg you for lazy scum this game DGK, do keep up.

DGK2000 posted:

It's does give you a chance to prompt your team members and spearfish.

DGK2000 posted:

I see you're still learning how to be scum