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My Lovely Horse posted:Been toying with the idea of getting a CRT for my retrogaming and someone in my area is more or less giving away a Trinitron. I'm tempted but extremely wary of the rumours of its weight. The rumors are true, and I helped move a 36" one of those. I believe it took 3 of us to get it into my brother's basement. It was an absolute beast. They had great picture, for the time. And the sound on the Vega models was great.
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it depends on the model but some of them have points that are designed to be gripped with your hands, you hold the screen against your belly and can carry it that way. theyre heavy but if youve got a good grip they can be carried slowly by a single person
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Nov 17, 2020 15:54
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Shibawanko posted:it depends on the model but some of them have points that are designed to be gripped with your hands, you hold the screen against your belly and can carry it that way. theyre heavy but if youve got a good grip they can be carried slowly by a single person Yeah, this was my technique when I had to keep moving a fuckton of big CRT computer monitors when I was in high school.
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I used to periodically handle loading old obsolete and failed technology into large shipping containers to be scrapped and that included probably over a hundred trinitrons. Even the biggest ones can be handled by one person thanks to handholds and the right leverage. They were still the worst though, I'd rather shove a lovely huge rear screen projection over a mountain of fax machines, CRTs, and random poo poo any day. I wish I knew there was a niche market for trinitrons at the time considering they made up the majority of CRTs I handled. Could've just sold them. Speaking of, electronics recycling would be a dream for this thread. I found a fully intact, working Apple II in a fancy case with keyboard, mouse, and disk drive. Lots of early RadioShack PCs too, and Heathkit project PCs. And an Onimusha Pachislo machine. And a blowgun.
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R.L. Stine posted:Speaking of, electronics recycling would be a dream for this thread. I found a fully intact, working Apple II in a fancy case with keyboard, mouse, and disk drive. Lots of early RadioShack PCs too, and Heathkit project PCs. And an Onimusha Pachislo machine. And a blowgun. ... you took them and at least sold them, right?
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Nov 17, 2020 16:16
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If there was a market for them, they wouldn't be getting recycled. It's always someone giving it away for free and then they give it away for free until no one wants it anymore and it goes to the scrap heap. Crazy to think that complicated electronics that still do exactly what they were designed to do are worthless now.
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Nov 17, 2020 16:20
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We sold a lot of stuff, we were allowed to keep things as long as we took "complete products" and didn't pick and choose components and scrap the rest. You'd be amazed the poo poo people toss because they don't know or care about the value, or because "it's broken let's buy a new one". We didn't bother with old rear end TVs but there were a lot of very nice plasmas and LCDs that just needed new t-con boards or some caps replaced. And that's just the TVs. We sold the Pachislo machine the second we fixed it up. We had a Wurlitzer Sideman come in, world's first commercial drum machine from like the 50s, in perfect condition, cabinet and all. Someone tossed an Asahi Pentax K, the grandad of SLR cameras, with the original case, manual, and accessories. I still have that one. I have a digital radiation dosimeter made for battlefield use somewhere in my basement too.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Obsolete, not failed: Not entirely obsolete. Wife and I stayed in a flat in Hoxton in London last year that still used an old type warded lock like that would be used for. Apparently it's not terribly uncommon in the UK, in old buildings at least.
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My local dump has a huge billboard outside touting their commitment to recycling. Then you go in and there are signs everywhere about how you're not allowed to take anything ever for any reason, and the staff watch you like a hawk. I had to stop looking in the electrical bin because it would break your heart to see how much cool (and probably working/fixable) stuff was going to end up thrown into an industrial shredder.
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i made a lovely gbs thread years ago about how to stop people stealing from my recycling but i never actually cared or did anything about it despite the feds telling us to secure our poo poo. There's nothing I could have done about it anyway, 99% of the time I was fixing stuff and couldn't be bothered to monitor what was going on out there. There were a few times people came in and asked if they could take something they saw and I'd just go out and load it into their car unless it was something dangerous/illegal/they were just gonna flip it. The blowgun was fun because I attached it to the air compressor and the dart went clean through an office chair. Otherwise we got a lot of pretty cool stuff. Olivetti typewriters and calculators, hi-fi systems. I got a lot of vintage Technics and Audio Technica turntables, a sick brushed metal reel-to-reel tape deck, bizarre German speakers i've never heard of but sounded great. A couple post-war bakelite tube radios. I was always hoping for a jukebox or arcade cabinet but alas. edit: well we got part of an arcade anyway. Once someone dropped off a bare crt, no housing, with pac-man level 1 heavily burnt in R.L. Stine has a new favorite as of 20:43 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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R.L. Stine posted:i made a lovely gbs thread years ago about how to stop people stealing from my recycling but i never actually cared or did anything about it despite the feds telling us to secure our poo poo. There's nothing I could have done about it May I suggest some 12ga hevi-shot?
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My Lovely Horse posted:Been toying with the idea of getting a CRT for my retrogaming and someone in my area is more or less giving away a Trinitron. I'm tempted but extremely wary of the rumours of its weight. Do you have stairs in your house? No, really. Don't get a used Trinitron if you have to carry it up or down stairs.
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Nov 18, 2020 00:35
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I bought a 27" inch toshiba off Craigslist. I didn't look at what it weighed until after it was in my car. I live up three flights of stairs 
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evobatman posted:I just sold off five full-size tape decks to make some space in the apartment, but my portables aren't going anywhere! I have never seen a high end walkman in person but they always fascinated me. I don't actually want to go back to tapes but sometimes it's fun to put on the tapes I made when I was a kid which feels like the oldest old person thing I ever typed.
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Nov 18, 2020 00:57
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I didn't mind tapes back in the 90s, but what I hated were NiCd batteries and the early voltage drop-off.
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I've posted before about the 36" Trinitron I used to have, and how much of a bitch it was to bring up one flight of stairs, and I thought the 2 people that came to take it for free were going to kill themselves in the stairwell. Their car sagged like the back two tires were flat once it was loaded and they drove away. I never mentioned where it came from. It was one of the screens in a sports bar that finally updated to flatscreen/HD. It was a cartoon anvil that hung over the heads of bartenders for at least 10 years. A Bachanallian sword of Damocles. Wall mounts back then must have been insane, compared to the weight a modern wall mount is expected to hold.
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6 or 7 years ago I owned one of that brief generation of 1080i HD tube TVs. Truly obsolete now, since it had all the massive weight of an old Trinitron but would have none of the retro value now. Only good thing I could say about it was that I never had to worry about my son, a toddler at the time, accidentally breaking it or pulling it over on top of himself.  
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R.L. Stine posted:I used to periodically handle loading old obsolete and failed technology into large shipping containers to be scrapped and that included probably over a hundred trinitrons. Even the biggest ones can be handled by one person thanks to handholds and the right leverage. They were still the worst though, I'd rather shove a lovely huge rear screen projection over a mountain of fax machines, CRTs, and random poo poo any day. I was disassembling e-waste some years back. A few cool old things came through but nothing salvageable. Stuff had usually been picked through a couple of times before it reached us. I had one of the big trinitron tubes implode in my face after the guy whose job it was to bust off the electron gun and relieve the vacuum prior to my task that day of cutting the metal band off from around the front of the tube, didn't do his loving job. Very loud and messy - the tube was utterly obliterated - but surprisingly no injuries from that incident. Just found a few old pics from that gig, nothing too exciting:  Amstrad ALT-286  Lear Siegler ADM-3A Terminal  Inside   "Obsolete AF" Last Chance posted:StickDeath.com Stickdeath was racist af and also really terrible animation. Goddamn I loved it back in the day but it has not aged well at all in any way and I'm glad it's gone. I haven't seen it archived anywhere online, but I might have the .swfs sitting on an old backup drive somewhere along with the anarchist's cookbook and my old school work with 8.3 filenames - CHEMIS~1.LWP
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The Sausages posted:
That is something I would have gutted and kept the chassis for, with the intent of modding it into a Fallout terminal. Of course I suck at that, so it would have just ended up left behind the next time I moved.
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Imagined posted:6 or 7 years ago I owned one of that brief generation of 1080i HD tube TVs. Truly obsolete now, since it had all the massive weight of an old Trinitron but would have none of the retro value now. I have those chairs
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Iron Crowned posted:That is something I would have gutted and kept the chassis for, with the intent of modding it into a Fallout terminal. Of course I suck at that, so it would have just ended up left behind the next time I moved. I owned one for a while. Beautiful machine with a nice keyboard (if you google it, you'll see why vi uses hjkl for cursor movement), but the flyback transformer was hosed and it made a terrible whine. My eyes would start watering after a few minutes of use. I sold it to an old computer nerd whose high-frequency hearing was sufficiently gone that he didn't care. Gutting a functional ADM-3 would be a crime. They were made entirely with discrete 7400-series logic ICs, if I remember right, which is quite an achievement. Because they're just serial terminals, you could have your Fallout terminal with a USB-serial adapter and a couple serial adapters... hell, you could most likely tuck a Raspberry Pi or similar inside the case, there was quite a bit of space.
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R.L. Stine posted:You'd be amazed the poo poo people toss because they don't know or care about the value, or because "it's broken let's buy a new one". My father still (albeit on extremely rare occasion) uses a 6-disc CD changer he bought brand new at a yard sale for $5 back in 1994. The guy running the yard sale said it didn't work, and he had waited too long to return it, but when he "hooked up the speakers to it" he got nothing. That "hooked the speakers up to it" made him think "wait, is this guy just a boob who didn't realize it has to be hooked up to an amp?" and took a chance. 25+ years later, still going. Rick posted:I have never seen a high end walkman in person but they always fascinated me. I don't actually want to go back to tapes but sometimes it's fun to put on the tapes I made when I was a kid which feels like the oldest old person thing I ever typed. I recently disposed of all my old weirdo random mix/sound effect tapes I made between 12 and 16, but not before dumping all of them straight to FLAC
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I've thrown away things that could possibly still have value to somebody because they no longer had any value to me and their "value" was just niche enough that finding that "somebody" and getting the thing delivered to them would be more hassle to me than it was worth. Sometimes a few bucks isn't worth having the thing sitting around until you find a buyer after you've decided you want it gone now. For example, take the old Trinitron. If you're talking about locally you'd probably be lucky just to get someone to come take it off your hands for free if you feel like posting it on Craigslist Free Stuff and then dealing with the fifteen flaky weirdos who will text you about it, ten of whom being somehow days AFTER you've taken down the ad. You might be able to get real money for it from someone somewhere in the world through eBay, but then you've got to think about how the gently caress to ship something that's fragile and yet weighs 160 pounds.
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Imagined posted:6 or 7 years ago I owned one of that brief generation of 1080i HD tube TVs. Truly obsolete now, since it had all the massive weight of an old Trinitron but would have none of the retro value now. I got one of those and a Sony PVM! I keep putting off the retro gaming thing because I need to bite the bullet and get an old GPU that does 15khz.
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My dad starting asking me about various multi-readers on Amazon, whether they'd take his old camera's "SD card." I directed him to his computer's card slot, but the card was too big. I finally got a photo of the card, and it turns out to be a SmartMedia card. Thankfully, I still (inexplicably) have an old SmartMedia reader that's escaped several rounds of e-cycling. Fingers crossed that A. it plays nice with Win10 and B. his photos haven't rotted off the card. They stopped making those in '06.
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Hirayuki posted:My dad starting asking me about various multi-readers on Amazon, whether they'd take his old camera's "SD card." I directed him to his computer's card slot, but the card was too big. I paid I think $200 for a 32MB SM card back in the day. And $800 for a 1GB MS DUO PRO a few years later :/
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Hirayuki posted:Fingers crossed that A. it plays nice with Win10 SmartMedia is generally formatted with the same file system any other flash media is... FAT16 or FAT32. Most SmartMedia I ever used was FAT16. Windows 10 still understands FAT16 just fine. Hell Windows 10 still supports floppy disks.
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stevewm posted:SmartMedia is generally formatted with the same file system any other flash media is... FAT16 or FAT32. I had an SMC device that required cards be formatted FAT12. From a quick googling Win10 has dropped support for FAT12 outside floppy disks, so it could potentially be a problem.
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Hirayuki posted:My dad starting asking me about various multi-readers on Amazon, whether they'd take his old camera's "SD card." I directed him to his computer's card slot, but the card was too big. The only place I've ever seen a SmartMedia card was my first MP3 Player, a Pine D'Music, doubled my memory from 16mb to 32mb. When I ripped MP3s at 96kb, I could fit an entire two albums on it, which I mostly used to listen to music when I went snowboarding.  https://www.anandtech.com/show/508 Mine was the silver one. I still have it in a box somewhere, but gently caress apparently I paid $160 for it 
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I had a GP32  Was my main handheld until I got a PSP. Really good at emulating games (for it's time) and had a small but active homebrew scene. Plays Doom better than the GBA ever could, with mods even!
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Iron Crowned posted:The only place I've ever seen a SmartMedia card was my first MP3 Player, a Pine D'Music, doubled my memory from 16mb to 32mb. When I ripped MP3s at 96kb, I could fit an entire two albums on it, which I mostly used to listen to music when I went snowboarding. Ah, reminds me of my Diamond Rio PMP300. I had it get stolen from my car, and then a guy I worked at a car wash with won one (new in box) and I paid him 50 bucks to get another one.
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Nocheez posted:Ah, reminds me of my Diamond Rio PMP300. I had it get stolen from my car, and then a guy I worked at a car wash with won one (new in box) and I paid him 50 bucks to get another one. The only reason I didn't buy a Diamond Rio was because I didn't know I had a USB port. The D'Music used the printer port. It was y2k 
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Iron Crowned posted:The only reason I didn't buy a Diamond Rio was because I didn't know I had a USB port. The D'Music used the printer port. Some say music can never sound as clear as it does played through a serial cable.
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Mine used a parallel (maybe serial?) port. It took forever to upload music to it.
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Iron Crowned posted:I still have it in a box somewhere, but gently caress apparently I paid $160 for it Accounting for inflation, you paid more like $242 
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Iron Crowned posted:The only place I've ever seen a SmartMedia card was my first MP3 Player, a Pine D'Music, doubled my memory from 16mb to 32mb. When I ripped MP3s at 96kb, I could fit an entire two albums on it, which I mostly used to listen to music when I went snowboarding. I did an effort post a year ago of my D'Music that I tore down to repair some corrosion on the PCB. The first oens like mine were Parrallel Port. Oh if anyone can guide me in a decent way to get a windows 98se VM working or natively support a built for dos app natively in win10 that would be great. I think my problems are to do with having a Ryzen CPU from what I'm reading.
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Humphreys posted:Oh if anyone can guide me in a decent way to get a windows 98se VM working or natively support a built for dos app natively in win10 that would be great. I think my problems are to do with having a Ryzen CPU from what I'm reading. I assume you're running 64-bit Windows? That no longer has the 16-bit virtual machine necessary for DOS and 16-bit Windows software, or something like that. I haven't tried it but I've heard good things about "MS-DOS Player" which might be as close to "native" as you'll get. Alternatively is DOSBox an option for you? Windows 9x/Me aren't great for running in a VM as you don't get all those nice things like a resizable desktop that you get with Windows 2000/XP/etc. under hypervisors like VirtualBox, VMware, etc. XP in a VM is pretty usable for DOS stuff though, although for sound you might need to install VDMSound, and there are other restrictions too. Basically the type of DOS software you want to run affects the best way to run it on a modern machine.
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I have an ancient piece of test equipment that uses a DOS program to load files over a serial link. I've been keeping an old 486 going to do this job. Turns out DOSBox handles everything 100% fine, so now I have a modern PC with network access so I can regularly do remote backups of it as well.
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The DOSBox developers won't accept bug reports related to anything other than games because they say you shouldn't use it for other applications, but it does work for plenty of other things. One area it doesn't support is file locking, so database software for example won't work.
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Thanks goons! I should have mentioned I do require USB support so adds a layer of finickiness
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