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Majere posted:I like punching stupid aliens in the face so they explode in a big fireball and then while standing in a literal pillar of flame shoot unlimited lightning gun bullets causing more explosions of chain lightning and pillars of fire.
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Sometimes i dont get the weapon stats. For example my truthteller has Volatile Launch or Coutnermass for slot 1. Volatile "greatly increases" blast radius, coutnermass doesnt mention it, but the "blast radius" bar doesnt move whatever i slot. Is the "greatly" so neglitble it doesnt show, or is it there and doesnt show, or what does it do? Why dont i get numbers? I can read numbers, i dont need bars to compare in length to figure out which is higher.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Sometimes i dont get the weapon stats. There's hard caps, so even if the blast radius is increased, there's a hard cap at how large the explosion radius is for grenade launchers. Blast radius will increase the radius at which proximity grenades will explode, but in making the blast radius larger, the grenade launcher itself does less damage. That's why, back when aggressive frame/spike/full court launchers were a good dps option, you would want to minimize blast radius to get the most impact damage you could. That blast radius metric also doesn't apply to effects such as concussive or blinding. So, a blinding grenade can hit enemies at surprising distance from the blast, but the blast itself won't kill anything unless it's almost a direct impact. However, due to the radius being nuked by the conc/blinding nade perk, it still does a good amount of damage on direct or near-direct hits. For Truth Teller, this hard cap is 55. I have a masterworked TT with blast radius in my vault that won't budge above 55. edit: This is why back when HCs got nerfed leading into Shadowkeep, the range stat stopped being important for HCs. The harsh falloff that occurred meant that additional range stat offered you so little range that investing in stability or handling was usually the better option. Sestze fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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The idea is that if they don't give you numbers, you won't get all obsessive about minmaxing. So instead people get obsessive about trying to work out what the stats are from external websites and datamining and working it out by hand. Which is better because
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The idea is that if they don't give you numbers, you won't get all obsessive about minmaxing. i should've never looked it up 
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The idea is that if they don't give you numbers, you won't get all obsessive about minmaxing. From the same guys who got excited about making people figure out insanely obnoxious puzzles or gigantic labyrinths with zero clues? Far more likely that they genuinely like the idea of "engaging" players by having them fill out massive excel tables and theorycraft endlessly on reddit.
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This argument owns lol
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"The more people engage with the community around the game, the more they like it," Luke Smith says , pulling the cords on his hoodie tight. "Therefore if we force them to spend hours on external community websites instead of playing," He says, only his eyes and nose visible, "They will like the game the most." He kicks his feet in glee as the hole closes over his face, and the boardroom all look at their notes awkwardly. Mark Noseworthy slams a fist into the table and stands. "This is how we win."
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So in short, if the bar doesnt move it doesnt improve the gun?
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Yolomon Wayne posted:So in short, if the bar doesnt move it doesnt improve the gun? There's also a hidden hard cap to certain stats on a gun. Slug shotguns are a good example of this. No matter how hard you go into the paint with stacking range buffs on First In Last Out, there is a cap of 12 meters, 12.5 with opening shot. So once you're past a certain point with range perks, a range masterwork would be useless.
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Few hours from now actually.
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Blast Radius doesn't increase the distance that proximity goes off. It increases the size of the explosion so when it explodes, your target is closer to the center of the explosion so it takes more damage (which is relevant because proxy nades will explode pretty far away from enemies). This is only important in PvP because you want to increase the likelihood of one shots from purple GLs and the reduction in Impact damage means nothing.
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Eej posted:Blast Radius doesn't increase the distance that proximity goes off. It increases the size of the explosion so when it explodes, your target is closer to the center of the explosion so it takes more damage (which is relevant because proxy nades will explode pretty far away from enemies). This is only important in PvP because you want to increase the likelihood of one shots from purple GLs and the reduction in Impact damage means nothing.
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Gambit quests for the splinters or what ever were not too bad. Seems like the rewards for doing them are not too great for the amount of effort they take?
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Sestze posted:Exactly. And where do i see the numbers? Lemme guess, 3rd party adds/software, but which ones?
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Nov 21, 2020 18:59
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New raid is nonstop void shields & overload champions. Little known fact, there is an auto rifle called "Gnawing Hunger" that checks both these boxes. Get one today!
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Yolomon Wayne posted:And where do i see the numbers? wish there was an easier way but, eh, nope
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:New raid is nonstop void shields my time is now
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Mesadoram posted:Gambit quests for the splinters or what ever were not too bad. Do you mean the Fragments that give you free bonuses like 20% more damage for freezing things? They're like the most powerful buffs in the game...
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raid spoilers: taniks???? also, the drop pod animation is the smartest loving thing bungie has done in a long time, super economical while being extremely cool
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Eej posted:Do you mean the Fragments that give you free bonuses like 20% more damage for freezing things? They're like the most powerful buffs in the game... Oh poo poo, I must have missed that. I got an extra one on my hunter, I should probably get that one...
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Re: the quest to get Salvation's Grip I like Ghost's take on Drifter. 
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The lead up to the final encounter with Taniks is really cool.
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Why is Taniks back again we killed him twice.
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Too dumb to die. The perfection companion for Guardians.
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imagine being revived by some unknown cosmic entity over and over just to drop guns for power-hungry space wizards
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goblin week posted:Why is Taniks back again we killed him twice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTLC_uiGFA
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https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/1330292991249018881 pack it up everyone
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And with that, the sword quest seemed to unlock. Edit: And a bunch more...
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Clovis is Banshee.
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Mesadoram posted:And with that, the sword quest seemed to unlock.
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So what's the idea of the raid? Fallen are making exos and found nukes?
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RBA Starblade posted:So what's the idea of the raid? Fallen are making exos and found nukes? The Exo's all came from a clovis bray facility the deep stone crypt on europa (or at least the original tech) The fallen now eramis is gone are tryign to break in. You need to stop them.
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Stormgale posted:The Exo's all came from a clovis bray facility the deep stone crypt on europa (or at least the original tech) Pfft come on. What could the fallen do with an entire army of combat robots? (Not gonna lie, that would be pretty awesome having a war at the tower)
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Mesadoram posted:Pfft come on. What could the fallen do with an entire army of combat robots? Brain upload themselves into human exo shells to get rid of their crippling ether addictions. (thereby saving Bungie from having to make civilian / non-combat Fallen NPC art assets for the inevitable shared social space when the D1 tower is rebuilt)
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Every Fallen raid is about shooing them out of our trash bins so they don't make any sweet loot
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The sword is interesting. I cant tell if it actually does more damage than my guillotine .
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