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CelticPredator posted:Predator 2 rules you donut No no you fool, all sequels are inherently a crime against cinema and I proved it in my Film Studies dissertation. *farts into a microphone until he follows through*
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Hating sequels feels like a mindset totally set in the nineties to me. Weird, outdated thinking that's not backed up by any actual facts about the quality of sequels.
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Bill Paxton remains the only person to be murdered by the Terminator, the Predator and a Xenomorph.
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Gonz posted:Bill Paxton remains the only person to be murdered by the Terminator, the Predator and a Xenomorph. Lance Henrikson.
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CelticPredator posted:Lance Henrikson. Oh hell, that's right! He was in Terminator.
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Gonz posted:Bill Paxton remains the only person to be murdered by the Terminator, the Predator and a Xenomorph. Every character in both Mortal Kombat X and XI. 
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I just saw an ad for The Croods 2. They're actually going to release in theaters this week. WTF is Universal thinking. It's a cartoon kids movie. Just dump it on VOD. Everyone is going to be home Thanksgiving weekend anyway.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Hating sequels feels like a mindset totally set in the nineties to me. Weird, outdated thinking that's not backed up by any actual facts about the quality of sequels. sequels arent better now and theres even more of them
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Farm Frenzy posted:sequels arent better now and theres even more of them Sequels have always been fine on the whole, and there's no more of them per film being made now than ever. Again, it's not based on reality. It's Boomer talk.
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In 1999 4 of the 10 highest grossing movies were sequels or remakes. 20 years later in 2019 1 of the top 10 wasn't. And it was Joker.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Sequels have always been fine on the whole, and there's no more of them per film being made now than ever. Again, it's not based on reality. It's Boomer talk. yes its a subjective opinion of art. you are the boomer for insisting that everything is fine and denying my lived experience.
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complaining about sequels in a world where cinematic universes are a thing
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https://deadline.com/2020/11/short-circuit-remake-spyglass-media-group-latinx-jolt-1234615264/ EXCLUSIVE: Spyglass Media Group has set a remake of the 1986 film Short Circuit, bringing on the writing team of Eduardo Cisneros and Jason Shuman to put a Latinx twist on the screenplay for the family film. The original was directed by John Badham and starred Ally Sheedy, Steve Guttenberg and Fisher Stevens in a comedy that centered around Number 5, an experimental military robot that is struck by lightning and gains a human-like intelligence.
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They can remake Short Circuit all they want as long as they don't touch Short Circuit 2.
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Lid posted:https://deadline.com/2020/11/short-circuit-remake-spyglass-media-group-latinx-jolt-1234615264/ someone feel free to quote me later but i bet michael pena is gonna be the father of the family or the robot
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The Saddest Rhino posted:someone feel free to quote me later but i bet michael pena is gonna be the father of the family or the robot And in an amazing bit of reverence for the source material, he will also be an Indian.
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Lid posted:https://deadline.com/2020/11/short-circuit-remake-spyglass-media-group-latinx-jolt-1234615264/ Is the robot going to identify as latinx?
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Ego-bot posted:Is the robot going to identify as latinx? This time it's the robot that's going to be the offensive stereotype.
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8one6 posted:This time it's the robot that's going to be the offensive stereotype. 
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Lid posted:https://deadline.com/2020/11/short-circuit-remake-spyglass-media-group-latinx-jolt-1234615264/ Bit they already made Chappie?
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PeterCat posted:Bit they already made Chappie? That had an Afrikaner twist.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:That had an Afrikaner twist. You're forgetting Chappie's uncle, AMERIKA, who taught him his love of cocaine.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You're forgetting Chappie's uncle, AMERIKA, who taught him his love of cocaine. This might be my favorite post on the forums
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FlamingLiberal posted:The director of 10 Cloverfield Lane is going to direct yet another Predator movie, which will not have anything to do with the 2018 movie. They should just call it Predator.
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Ego-bot posted:Is the robot going to identify as latinx? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq2sfbANtak&t=15s
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PeterCat posted:Bit they already made Chappie? Chappie's like the two Short Circuit movies merged together and replaces Fisher Steven's brownface role with an actual high-quality Indian-descended actor.
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Fisher Stevens has since apologized for the whole brownface thing saying that it happened early in his career where he couldn't really turn down parts but he does regret doing it.
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Remo Williams, which came out the year before, was nominated for a Best Make-Up Oscar for turning Joel Grey into a Korean.
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I had just finished listening to the Remo Williams episode of We Hate Movies and always thought that movie was an Indiana Jones knock off instead of lovely American James Bond.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:They can remake Short Circuit all they want as long as they don't touch Short Circuit 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMm7QA7icbs
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Johnny 5's heroism and sparkling personality make the iron giant look like a pusillanimous paint mixer.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Hating sequels feels like a mindset totally set in the nineties to me. Weird, outdated thinking that's not backed up by any actual facts about the quality of sequels. There was this weird plague of random sequels in the late 80s/early 90s where seemingly anything that had made money got a follow-up. Mostly comedies and light fantasies, so Look Who's Talking Too, Short Circuit 2, Honey We Blew Up the Kid, Crocodile Dundee 2, even Arthur got a sequel nobody asked for. I wonder if that influenced people's opinions. (This may also have been a hangover effect from the writer's strike of '87, I'm not sure.) (I also wonder how much of the bad reputation remakes have is down to the 1973 Lost Horizon musical, but that's harder to prove.)
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Maxwell Lord posted:There was this weird plague of random sequels in the late 80s/early 90s where seemingly anything that had made money got a follow-up. Mostly comedies and light fantasies, so Look Who's Talking Too, Short Circuit 2, Honey We Blew Up the Kid, Crocodile Dundee 2, even Arthur got a sequel nobody asked for. I wonder if that influenced people's opinions. (This may also have been a hangover effect from the writer's strike of '87, I'm not sure.) Is it really that random though? What I want is the per movie made numbers of how many movies in any given period were sequels. Like if they made 100 movies in 1945 and 10 of them were sequels, but they made 300 in 1985 but 100 were sequels, then there's a case to be made. But if only around 30 were sequels then there's no argument. They've always made sequels and cash ins since movies were a thing. Look at how many Andy Hardy movies they made back in the day, sixteen in less than ten years. That's some Marvel poo poo, but in the thirties. People just don't remember them anymore because why the gently caress would you, and then act like sequels being made often is a new thing.
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Maxwell Lord posted:There was this weird plague of random sequels in the late 80s/early 90s where seemingly anything that had made money got a follow-up. Mostly comedies and light fantasies, so Look Who's Talking Too, Short Circuit 2, Honey We Blew Up the Kid, Crocodile Dundee 2, even Arthur got a sequel nobody asked for. I wonder if that influenced people's opinions. (This may also have been a hangover effect from the writer's strike of '87, I'm not sure.) Most of the movies you mentioned made a shitload of money so a sequel was inevitable, mostly because the taste at the time was so goddamn bad. Most of them weren’t expected to be hits, so the sequels are even more ridiculous because nobody was prepared to sit down and write Three Men and a Little Lady.
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Hot Shots Part Deux was also made in the 90s and is good, therefore I side with sequels being made is good.
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Yeah that's the thing, a lot of the sequels were to movies that really didn't leave much room if any for a sequel. Granted this is a common thing with comedies. Most comedies are written with some kind of character arc in mind and there's usually a happy ending involving character growth for the protagonists and a new, more sustainable status quo. So to make a sequel you have to say "actually, no." The Hangover sequels are a good example (I still think the first was a good movie but man they beat that premise into the ground), arguably even Austin Powers which has to completely undo Austin's arc from the original so he can still try and shag everything in sight. The balance has partly shifted somewhat to sequels to movies that actually were made with sequels in mind. One thing I think may have changed- and again this may require statistical analysis- was that diminishing returns were almost always a given. A sequel would make less than the movie that spawned it, because not everybody who saw the movie will see the sequel and the people who missed the first movie won't bother with the second. Nowadays everyone can catch up via streaming so that assumption is less true, and it's not uncommon to see sequels outperform the original (though that may be balanced out by there still being plenty of sequels that outright flop.) Sequels didn't used to be among the top grossers of the year because they were never meant to be, they were more of a safe bet and schedule filler (and sometimes a way of amortizing costs from a film that was very expensive.) If studios seem more risk-averse than ever these days that may be more owing to the shrinking of the mid-budget slate, where many of your surprise hits and original stories come from- Robocop wasn't supposed to be a big film and Orion didn't really know what they had until the first test screenings, for example. But then we just had Knives Out last year, so it's not like those are dead either.
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