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Should Gaj make his own thread
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Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/LeftAccidental/status/1330891698680029185

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

They're not wrong.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I mean, you obviously know him better that I do but this attitude could also just be a sad resignation to something he considers inevitable. I suggest this because I've had this exactly reaction to every single article or mention of how lots of people are going to spread COVID around this Thanksgiving because they insist on having big family get-togethers and traveling around to do it. It's not that I'm not upset by it, but there's absolutely nothing I can do about it so beyond sigh at the madness of it all.

Have you considered screaming at people all the time?

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Conservatives threatening us with a good time once again.

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
i don't think ALL the golf courses should be turned into low income housing and community gardens. i think at least a few of them should be converted into motocross tracks and/or public dumps.

02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-wants-to-leave

destroy golf

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




Molten Llama posted:

The loudest, most bizarre opposition to extending the metro light rail to my boring-rear end Phoenix suburb is the idea that "big city gang bangers" will come to our city to have train-to-train "drive-by shootings."

None of the pieces make any sense individually, and yet somehow they make even less sense when you put them together.

(Yes, as you'd expect, it's boomer NIMBYs.)

They’re not really afraid of crime per se, they just don’t want minorities walking around their neighborhoods. They can’t say that out loud though because that’s racist even by boomer standards so they pick bizarre dog whistles that don’t make sense.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JE4GYS63ak

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

falling down is still a really relevant film in a similar way to fight club honestly

(in that its about how hosed the world is in bits an pieces but ultimately appeals to reactionaries as a whole)

Poo In An Alleyway
Feb 12, 2016



Kanine posted:

falling down is still a really relevant film in a similar way to fight club honestly

(in that its about how hosed the world is in bits an pieces but ultimately appeals to reactionaries as a whole)

And in how chuds idolise the lead character(s) for completely the wrong reasons.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTPWqR9VRcw

I love how Michael Douglas takes DFENS completely at face value.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

reposting this image except to encourage people to do socialism

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Intense Boomer energy from this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013

Molten Llama posted:

The loudest, most bizarre opposition to extending the metro light rail to my boring-rear end Phoenix suburb is the idea that "big city gang bangers" will come to our city to have train-to-train "drive-by shootings."

I can confirm that if gangs were getting on top of trains to have shootouts I would immediately join one of those gangs as that is the raddest poo poo I have ever heard.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Weirdest trolley problem variant I've ever heard of.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Poo In An Alleyway posted:

And in how chuds idolise the lead character(s) for completely the wrong reasons.

And the movie actually ends with him saying, "I'm the bad guy?" and then realizing that he's the bad guy and committing suicide by cop. There's so much going on in that movie and it's not at all subtle.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
generally, whenever i hear "bad guy" i expect and usually get an expression of moral philosophy suitable for a 4-year-old

like, a manichaean one, too

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Keep the little city owned pitch and put courses though please.

It's like $15 here for 2-4 hours of fun and convo in a park setting (you can always let people "play through" you on a hole if you want to take it slow), and nobody gives a gently caress what you wear or if you want to drink or smoke darts or joints.

Little friendly Chinese Aunties make rounds constantly to grab your beer cans so they can turn them in for the refunds.

They will go into the trash cans, but it is considered much more polite to just give a wave, shake it out, and pass it over.

It's just a nice fun community amenity.

Oh, and free in winter! Technically closed and technically trespassing but nobody gives a gently caress. They just take the poles out and don't maintain it, and people make their own poles.)

Feel free to nuke any country club type poo poo though.

The Butcher fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Nov 26, 2020

JonathonSpectre
Jul 23, 2003

I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck

Soiled Meat

CPL593H posted:

Anyone who drives an F-150 or some other massive truck that isn't using it for work or industrial purposes is a complete loving dickhead and they should get hosed with pinecones. You can tell which people the are because the trucks are always pristine and don't have a speck of dirt on them anywhere. And a lot of they have all kinds of tacky ornamental aftermarket chrome bullshit all over them and extra lights and poo poo so it looks like a UFO.

I'm pretty forgiving of these loving wanna-be boggy boy $50,000 "work trucks." I'll even accept Truck Nutz (tm).

But the minute someone puts one of those loving train horns on their truck I think it's sooner-than-instant-death time. I mean, to the point I'd run that poo poo as a government op to eliminate the most infuriating, loud, look-at-me motherfuckers on the planet.

"Hey man you got a train horn I can put on my truck so I can just annoy the poo poo out of everyone? I want one I can blow on Sunday morning while I just ride around neighborhoods letting everyone know I'm awake and that I'm there."

"Not sure, let's check in the back."

PipHelix
Nov 11, 2017



02-6611-0142-1 posted:

Kicking a whole hornets nest of Korea

This is way after the fact but:

The war was incredibly destructive because the front scanned the entire, country, twice. Imagine the US went to war with Canada, they fought us all the way to a holdout cordon around Miami, we fought them all the way to Yellowknife before getting pushed back to the status quo ante border. Except that doesn't work because the peninsula is the width of Indiana and maybe twice the height. Like, every inch of ground saw modern mechanized total war, twice.

Also the north absolutely started it. But complaining about the chinese intervening on behalf of a client state in a war being fought on (and eventually, across) their border when one of the belligerents is (checks notes) fighting on behalf of a client state 15,000 miles from their border is... insane? MacArthur was so drunk on Incheon he was engaging the escaping northerners across the Yalu river into China and was openly talking about invading China including the use of nukes against Truman's orders like he's loving Caesar or something.

The unsourced quote about bombing dams is here https://www.vox.com/2015/8/3/9089913/north-korea-us-war-crime, which references a WaPo opinion piece that I don't pay for and can't get past the paywall, and a pdf on the Air Force's website which seems to be a dead link.
But aerial bombing of civilian targets was widespread in WWII less than a decade before, Vietnam a decade later Korea was a brutal war like nobody's business and you'd be insane to believe we didn't.

The North Korean government was always a brutal, suppressive violent totalitarian cult, and the South Korean Government was also that during living memory:
http://www.jejuweekly.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=1383
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_Uprising#May_18%E2%80%9321
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Park_Chung-hee
Though I suppose you could argue that it was only ever a bog standard pinochet level fascist puppet regime and not a full blown cult like the north. Coincidentally the South's standard of living started rising right around the time they got leaders in who weren't basically taking dictation from the CIA.

And if you're paying attention at all, pretty much all the big deal South Korean media of the last two decades from Host to Parasite to loving Gangnam Style have had runaway inequality, class stratification and exploitation as either subtext or like, uber-super-text. It's not all face masks and boy bands.

So in conclusion land of contrasts. Acknowledging the Gwangju Massacre or disappeared trade unionists in no way excuses anything the north did or does or will do, and acknowledging the North is probably the worst place in the world to live in no way requires the South to have always or ever been a perfectly or even well run place for all South Koreans. And acknowledging the US military did war crimes in any particular theater is basic common sense understanding of history.

To tie it back into boomerisms:

bob dobbs is dead posted:

generally, whenever i hear "bad guy" i expect and usually get an expression of moral philosophy suitable for a 4-year-old

like, a manichaean one, too

Bad Guys exist, but existence of a Bad Guy does not require or even imply existence of a Good Guy.

Disclaimer: I know practically nothing about the Korean war, as a kid I honestly conflated North Korea and North Vietnam as the same team (thanks Boomer-directed curriculum), but holy poo poo guys. Think about whichever bit of history you know a lot about. Korea was as complicated as that.

PipHelix fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Nov 27, 2020

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Just a heads up, if you use a proxy server you can get around the Washington Post paywall.

In the entirety of my schooling not once did a history teacher even mention the Korean War.

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
I know I got a very brief overview of the whole Unfortunate Thing in Korea in school (Texas) but I'm pretty sure I learned most of what I knew about it growing up from MASH

PipHelix
Nov 11, 2017



CPL593H posted:

Just a heads up, if you use a proxy server you can get around the Washington Post paywall.

In the entirety of my schooling not once did a history teacher even mention the Korean War.

Interesting, link? I'm not super technical. I use a VPN but I'll tell you that doesn't work. Opposite infact. Half the websites that run on data collection (almost all of the big ones) block or force me through CAPCHA hoops to even navigate to.

I also went through a full US education including AP American history without hearing word one about Korea. My knowledge is from having read one (1) book, watching a couple documentaries, and teaching ESL for a year in the state Gwangju is in and getting that local oral history from drunk as skunk co-teachers.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

JonathonSpectre posted:

I'm pretty forgiving of these loving wanna-be boggy boy $50,000 "work trucks." I'll even accept Truck Nutz (tm).

But the minute someone puts one of those loving train horns on their truck I think it's sooner-than-instant-death time. I mean, to the point I'd run that poo poo as a government op to eliminate the most infuriating, loud, look-at-me motherfuckers on the planet.

"Hey man you got a train horn I can put on my truck so I can just annoy the poo poo out of everyone? I want one I can blow on Sunday morning while I just ride around neighborhoods letting everyone know I'm awake and that I'm there."

"Not sure, let's check in the back."

What about horns that play LA Cucaracha?

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
We did not cover Korea in AP US History either. Hell we were lucky to get through WWI since the test was a good month before school even ended, giving us an even shorter time frame. Our teacher did try and cram a very abbreviated version of the modern era in that last month so we wouldn't be totally ignorant. The Korean war was MacArthur was a megalomaniac and it was as nasty as Vietnam, but you hear about it less because it had something the US populace could read as a victory so people were less bothered by it.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I guess this is fairly relevant to the thread:

Just a heads up, if you say "We lost the Vietnam War" to a boomer, they will lose their drat mind. It's like cheat code that disables sanity.

I learned this trick when I was 17, and it has served me well ever since.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I guess this is fairly relevant to the thread:

Just a heads up, if you say "We lost the Vietnam War" to a boomer, they will lose their drat mind. It's like cheat code that disables sanity.

I learned this trick when I was 17, and it has served me well ever since.

You need to phrase it as "Your generation lost the Vietnam war". It rubs salt in the wound that is their inadequacy to their parents.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

SpartanIvy posted:

You need to phrase it as "Your generation lost the Vietnam war". It rubs salt in the wound that is their inadequacy to their parents.

No need for blame. It was a shameful, pointless war, and they have decades worth of brainwashing convincing them that it was necessary and virtuous. Simply reminding them that it was a failure forces them to come to terms with a lie so obvious it's psychologically painful.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

As a Canadian, all I was taught was Canada was more involved in the Korean War then Vietnam so it mattered more on Remembrance Day.

That's all I pretty much learned about either.

GokuGoesSSj69
Apr 15, 2017
Weak people spend 10 dollars to gift titles about world leaders they dislike. The strong spend 10 dollars to gift titles telling everyone to play Deus Ex again
Boomers like long distance phone plans. My parents were asking me about their internet bill today and I was surprised that was a thing that even still existed.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
honestly even saying "george bush is a war criminal" or "america has committed war crimes in iraq and afghanistan" will make most boomers, liberal or conservative, loving apoplectic

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Kanine posted:

honestly even saying "george bush is a war criminal" or "america has committed war crimes in iraq and afghanistan" will make most boomers, liberal or conservative, loving apoplectic
what the gently caress have they not heard of Abu Ghraib or what

like that was a big loving deal, the pictures were all over the news

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Meanwhile if you say that George Bush doesn't care about black people you'll get racist rants about poo poo that did not actually happen in the Superdome and people "looting" abandoned and destroyed storefronts of food to build a community stockpile because the government wasn't helping as a bad thing.

Stingwing
Mar 26, 2010

Thank you Mr President for Making America Great Again! USA #1! I shouldn't have to understand other cultures, I'm a god damn American hero.

Dameius posted:

Meanwhile if you say that George Bush doesn't care about black people you'll get racist rants about poo poo that did not actually happen in the Superdome and people "looting" abandoned and destroyed storefronts of food to build a community stockpile because the government wasn't helping as a bad thing.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

I just rewatched that always sunny episode where frank explaining that black people loot and white people survive, and then there's footage of him looting luxury items during the LA riots and still claims he wasn't looting. Boomers really think this way, but about everything. If black people are doing it it's a problem, if white people are doing it, it's just boys being boys.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

My father in law was very upset that when he went to Publix the person he asked didn't know what (and therefore where) the Bell's seasoning was. He had to (had to!) ask the guy "where the hell are you from?" and then the guy went to ask someone else where it was.

"It says right there on the front of the box, a hundred. Years. Of tradition! How did this guy not fuckin know what it was?" He was visibly stressing himself out over it as he was regaling us with the tale of the Not A Real American that didn't know what Bell's seasoning was.

The turkey was bland as poo poo.

Lord Decimus Barnacle
Jun 25, 2005


Hell Gem
What the gently caress is bells seasoning

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Dear Watson posted:

What the gently caress is bells seasoning

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Dear Watson posted:

What the gently caress is bells seasoning

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