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All my iPhone poo poo is in the App Store to download, tempted to get some iphone games and see how they run.
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you should try getting over it with Bennett Foddy
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I will deliberately never try anything that anyone in yospos suggests.
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lol at the very concept of playing video games on a mac the last good mac game was marathon 2
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holy poo poo y'all, saying stupid disingenuous poo poo and then just repeating it over and over is tori's entire thing. he just says whatever dumb poo poo will get a rise out of people, there's no consistency or rationale behind it. if you take your average boring internet troll and take out the racism/homophobia/etc, you get tori. all that poo poo sartre said about antisemites applies, except that of course tori isn't antisemitic
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for real tho tori, you did good on this one. it was pretty funny
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qirex posted:lol at the very concept of playing video games on a mac the brief few weeks of mac exclusivity for q3test
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mac has simcity, marathon, and where in the world is Carmen sandiego
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I keep a g4 around for playing myst, riven, oregon trail
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Achmed Jones posted:holy poo poo y'all, saying stupid disingenuous poo poo and then just repeating it over and over is tori's entire thing. he just says whatever dumb poo poo will get a rise out of people, there's no consistency or rationale behind it. if you take your average boring internet troll and take out the racism/homophobia/etc, you get tori. all that poo poo sartre said about antisemites applies, except that of course tori isn't antisemitic The Apple M1 is being talked about by the tech media as some sort of incredible raw performance breakthrough. It isn't. If pointing that out is trolling, then I guess I'm a troll.
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I used to try, back in the 90s I got in flame wars with people and posted about how rad spectre and spaceward ho! were then I finally admitted I was a casual and started buying consoles
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I haven’t finished any AAA titles since I became gainfully employed again
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Grim Fandango Remastered runs pretty good, congratulations on Apple creating a CPU that can run a graphic adventure from the late nineties well I guess.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The Apple M1 is being talked about by the tech media as some sort of incredible raw performance breakthrough. You're suppose to do tech media things like edit video in final cut and browse in safari, running microsoft business apps is about 50th place on apples priority list.
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qirex posted:lol at the very concept of playing video games on a mac Nah, it’s still the spaceship game screensaver that I think came with After Dark? Edit: Lunatic Fringe? 
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escape velocity
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who the gently caress is tori
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haveblue posted:escape velocity how are there not lazy ios ports of all those ambrosia games
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Grim Fandango Remastered runs pretty good, congratulations on Apple creating a CPU that can run a graphic adventure from the late nineties well I guess. impressive ninja editing skills to get the screenshot containing the post that contains the screenshot
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i apologize; my earlier post about games on mac was grossly misleading and out of date. there is also oregon trail and warcraft iii
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I'm a troll.  but you're our troll
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Sagebrush posted:impressive ninja editing skills to get the screenshot containing the post that contains the screenshot slick, huh?
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glad i literally just bought the higher spec 2018 mac mini and ordered two extra sticks of 32gb ram somewhere else hoping it will last another 5 years, it's replacing a 2007 imac anyway so either way it's a step upCybernetic Vermin posted:also it is named in honor of a gun that slaughtered countless innocent koreans. real classy poo poo timb lol remember the time the people came up with apple releasing faceid to oppress muslims because it's unusable for people wearing full face burka and it needed them to take off their face covering for it to scan?
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:lol at people making excuses for poo poo performance its a mobile processor so you need to wait until they release the mobile versions of your apps for it
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echinopsis posted:who the gently caress is tori no idea what your serious level is but if not i still have no idea if that’s a reference to an old nick or what
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mod saas posted:no idea what your serious level is but if not i still have no idea if that’s a reference to an old nick or what Pittsburgh stymie used to be tori cmos
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I'm entertayned that in c-spam they all still call him citizen tayne since that's the name he was using when he first trolled them into oblivion
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Sagebrush posted:I'm entertayned that in c-spam they all still call him citizen tayne since that's the name he was using when he first trolled them into oblivion I've trolled SpiderHyphenMan into getting himself probated for 3 days multiple times
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i salute you for your service in c-spam tori
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coke posted:glad i literally just bought the higher spec 2018 mac mini and ordered two extra sticks of 32gb ram somewhere else hoping it will last another 5 years, it's replacing a 2007 imac anyway so either way it's a step up I have a 2018 Mac mini and upgraded the RAM myself. you’re gonna need a set of torx screwdrivers with like 6mm security bits (which are super uncommon at that size), and I think maybe also some pentalobe bits or you aren’t getting it open. had to order an ifixit set. also there are one million screws and delicate ribbon cables etc inside. edit: the M1 Mac mini is gonna be way more future proof.
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:i salute you for your service in c-spam tori Working hard, thank you!
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Doc Block posted:there are one million screws That reminds me, tell your mom I said hi
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infernal machines posted:this seems to be the big assumption, that the design scales up like that. it'll be wild if it does, but that's not a given gpu scaling is one of the easiest scaling problems, and the fact that it's so power efficient makes the job a lot easier Shifty Pony posted:it is a fantastic iGPU and just like the rest of the package it lights one hell of a fire under Intel, but it is still hamstrung by the things that always limit the performance of iGPUs like having to use system memory which isn't optimized for reading blocks of textures over and over and over like HBM GDDR is. for that HBM helps a lot but benchmarks put the M1 at about 60GB/s of memory bandwidth which (in addition to not being graphics optimized) is roughly comparable to to a 13 year old GeForce 8800 gt. you're not looking at enough number though texel fillrate: m1=82Gtexel/s, 8800gt=33.6Gtexel/s pixel fillrate: m1=41Gpixel/s, 8800gt=9.6Gpixel/s gfxbench 4.0 offscreen t-rex: m1=649.5fps, 8800gt=107.3fps 6x frame rate (in this benchmark, hard to find things that have been run on both) despite 1x memory BW, 4.2x pixel fillrate, and 2.44x texel fillrate. this is possible because apple gpus use a tile based deferred rendering algorithm (TBDR), not immediate mode rendering (IMR) as seen in nvidia and amd gpus. TBDR gpus use on-chip SRAM tile buffers for much of their memory traffic instead of going all the way out to DRAM. they also get to discard fully obscured pixels (fragments) early in the pipeline, which means they need less fill rate than IMR in most cases this is why it's not a big deal that m1 "only" has 60GB/s memory BW available (and shared between CPU and GPU at that). the m1 gpu doesn't need as much BW as an IMR GPU does this plays into scaling too. since TBDR GPU rendering 'cores' each have their own set of tile buffer SRAMs, adding more cores perfectly scales on-chip tile buffer BW. off-chip traffic grows too, of course, but at a much slower rate than IMR gpus. the biggest challenge for apple gpu is software optimization. getting maximum benefit from TBDR requires some care. basically, do things in the right order with the right modes so as to maximize the amount of work done per tile buffer load/store, avoid load/store entirely for temporary buffers, and so forth so, this poo poo is why i think results from the m1 gpu are very promising. does it poo poo on desktop gpus the way the m1 cpu is making GBS threads on many desktop cpus? no, but achieving low end dgpu performance on a fraction of the power and memory BW is significant. it means that if apple decides to scale it up adequately in post-M1 chips (or chipsets) targeted at bigger macs, you won't miss amd all that much
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Sagebrush posted:I'm entertayned that in c-spam they all still call him citizen tayne since that's the name he was using when he first trolled them into oblivion which is a shame because tori cmos is still an S tier username
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BobHoward posted:gpu scaling is one of the easiest scaling problems, and the fact that it's so power efficient makes the job a lot easier It barely runs subnautica
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man i just like c64s and ataris and poo poo, i’ve never once thought “wow i need this 70s mainframe in my living room”
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