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Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


loving SACDs, did they ever release more than a handful of those things?

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Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


Powerful Two-Hander posted:

loving SACDs, did they ever release more than a handful of those things?


thousands

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.



huh I never remember seeing more than a few in the back of record stores, then again in the UK the players were insanely expensive so maybe there was less of a market

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

they still come out with them. some are amazing.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

did u know? itunes supports lossless audio but only as ALAC. every time I want to import FLACs I have to run them through XLD. as far as I know this is the only extant application of ALAC.

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


for a while (maybe still?) the only/best way of copying an SACD was a hacked ps3, so you had audiophile people buying old ps3s and hacking them just for sacd rips


there was also dvd-audio which i think was much less successful than sacd, and there was also bluray audio which i think was even less successful than that

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

for a while (maybe still?) the only/best way of copying an SACD was a hacked ps3, so you had audiophile people buying old ps3s and hacking them just for sacd rips


there was also dvd-audio which i think was much less successful than sacd, and there was also bluray audio which i think was even less successful than that

you can always sell to deranged audiophiles but most people don’t have the equipment or hearing to tell where the extra money goes beyond compact discs. if you do all of your audio consumption on a sidewalk over airpods and your iphone it’s moot anyway.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Midjack posted:

you can always sell to deranged audiophiles but most people don’t have the equipment or hearing to tell where the extra money goes beyond compact discs. if you do all of your audio consumption on a sidewalk over airpods and your iphone it’s moot anyway.
Nobody can hear the difference between 16 bit 44khz audio and 24 bit 96 khz audio (although being able to record/process the latter is useful for making music).

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

oh my god please do not turn this into another audio epistemology argument

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
lots of CDs were released as a dual CD/SACD thing

like, layers

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




pee is stored in the SAC, D

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

5.1 tool mix ftw

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

more like SUCDeez nutz lmao got em

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007
just remembered those square records you’d get in cereal boxes that you supposed to cut round yourself with scissors. the only one I specifically remember was one promoting either ghostbusters 1 or 2. it makes me assume most of these things were purely just lame marketing material.

i think it was like 2-5 minutes of lame dialogue/jokes with the cast, then 30 seconds of the theme song(any longer than that could cut into soundtrack sales!) like a proto-hitclipz.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Why would you need to cut it round? As long as the groove is spiral, the record player doesn't care.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/COCX-38295

enjoy your favorite NES themes in perfect Blu-spec quality :shepspends:

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Why would you need to cut it round? As long as the groove is spiral, the record player doesn't care.
well of course you don’t really need to, but there was the dotted line as a guide if you wanted to. not really sure why you would need a guide to cut a circle either. you’re really just listening to a coked up dan akroyd trying to convince you to buy tickets and merchandise from his latest thing so he can continue consuming cocaine at his current rate or even greater if it’s a hit.

that said, not putting in a proportionate amount of effort towards the whole thing is, if anything at all, just plain disrespectful and rude as there’s no purpose more sincere and down-to-earth than satisfying the urge to consume as much cocaine as physically possible before the wheels fall off the gravy train or your heart explodes from orgasming too hard from a well timed tongue punch to the prostate by a dolphins cheerleader during a sex party on dan marinos houseboat.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

ok

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007
sorry. sometimes my time-release painkillers hit all at once. on an empty stomach it’s a recipe for disaster aka my poasts.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



echinopsis posted:

I used to leave my dialup on 24/7 as I paid for a dedicated line and had huge collection of 700mb movies

It would often take a week from start to finish to download those things. I remember the rule of thumb was 5 mins per mb


when I first got half life 2 and it needed to install steam and then update before I played. it was a physical disk that I then needed to update before I could even play? god that’s bullshit

I had the dvd version but yo could get it on 7 cds

when i was a kid i convinced my mom to let me leave dialup running overnight so i could download the 50mb diablo trial installer. the download completed but was corrupted so i didn't get to play diablo.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

look at this scrub who didn't know how to get a keygen for GetRight :yosbutt:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



I used HotLine to download my warez and it could resume downloads so :cool:

Also a couple times I exchanged CDRs with foreign nationals, which was probably doubly illegal. We all printed jewel case covers and everything. I think I have the psd file somewhere still, it was terrible

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

echinopsis posted:

when I first got half life 2 and it needed to install steam and then update before I played. it was a physical disk that I then needed to update before I could even play? god that’s bullshit

I had the dvd version but yo could get it on 7 cds

I had to return my DVD copy of UT2004 and get the CD version instead because the DVD drive I had kept puking reading the disc for some reason. That was 5 install discs plus the "play disc" and came in a massive cardboard box the size of a decent hardback book.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Carthag Tuek posted:

I used HotLine to download my warez and it could resume downloads so :cool:

Also a couple times I exchanged CDRs with foreign nationals, which was probably doubly illegal. We all printed jewel case covers and everything. I think I have the psd file somewhere still, it was terrible

My dad lived in Hong Kong for a while around 2000 ish and would send /bring me random discs from the markets, like I think I remember one being various versions of autocad as I wanted to study engineering (i never used it)

I think I also bought a pirate copy of 3ds max from a street vendor in Bulgaria in 2002

neither was directly useful for actual engineering, but messing around with 3ds and a demo of truespace did mean I was a bit ahead of the game when we came to using a real Cad package. It was just unfortunate the one we learned on was incredibly niche (I-DEAS if anyone cares)

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


also I just remembered using the trial version of truespace I got on some demo disc to do a 3d model of the desk I built for my technology course at school circa 1999 and the teacher's mind was *blown*

the demo version was time limited to like 45 minutes, I got really good at mocking that desk up quickly.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



codecs developed fast right around then

i remember i had a vcd of the matrix that looked pretty good, but like a half year later, i got another one that was uh variable bitrate vcd? iirc only some hardware could play it as opposed to regular vcd, which could generally be played

big image quality difference tho

what was that about, i guess some manufacturers gave less of a poo poo / supported more codecs? i wonder if those lovely old "vbr vcd"s are divx or something

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

My dad lived in Hong Kong for a while around 2000 ish and would send /bring me random discs from the markets, like I think I remember one being various versions of autocad as I wanted to study engineering (i never used it)

I think I also bought a pirate copy of 3ds max from a street vendor in Bulgaria in 2002

neither was directly useful for actual engineering, but messing around with 3ds and a demo of truespace did mean I was a bit ahead of the game when we came to using a real Cad package. It was just unfortunate the one we learned on was incredibly niche (I-DEAS if anyone cares)

Hah, we had some wanky CAD software at my secondary school that I lost the name of. It was incredibly basic but still had the essential CAD feature of randomly puking fatal errors with no option to save.

We had to model something from home so I did my og boxy PS2 because it was right there next to my computer and people's minds were blown because I'd used things like the pattern tool for the front face and made it vaguely the right colour. Eventually a teacher and I puzzled out using the loft tool and I made an incredibly bad fan in the back of it.

I really wish I remembered what that software was. It was insanely bad but I almost want to fire it up for nostalgia's sake and wonder how I ever did anything in it.

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


well, the ntsc vcd standard was strictly 352x240 at 1150 kbps video bitrate in mpeg1

then u had SVCD which was mpeg-2 at 720x480 (or 352x240 i think) with a constant or variable bitrate up to like 2500 kbps so maybe thats what ur talking about


but there were a lot of people loving around with the vcd standard just for fun (easy enough to increase the bitrate etc) or making their own random offshoot "standards" and some vcd/dvd players would still play them without any issue


u probably went from VCD to SVCD which would def have a big quality difference




and i wrote this all from memory so dont be nitpickin

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
some players probably had low end hardware decoders that only did the standard or well known profiles while other players either used software or had higher end hardware decoders that were more parameterized

also CPUs were getting faster then at an insane rate so even just getting a new computer might let someone enable universally-supported codec features that would have taken forever to encode on a previous generation CPU

the better you parameterize your encoding, the better the quality you can get for the same bit rate—people still gently caress around with all that today in trying to save space on Blu-Ray and stream rips or whatever (if they’re poors who can’t save the raws)

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
the real question is what now magneto optical drive should i decide to *start* using for the first time this coming year, in 2021?

floptical?
UMD?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

the real question is what now magneto optical drive should i decide to *start* using for the first time this coming year, in 2021?

floptical?
UMD?

I always wanted a beartato drive

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Bernoulli

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



umd is straight optical.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

the real question is what now magneto optical drive should i decide to *start* using for the first time this coming year, in 2021?

floptical?
UMD?

12-inch magneto optical using a Sony WDD-931

use it for backup of course

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

and i wrote this all from memory so dont be nitpickin

hell yeah svcd was definitely a thing. god what a mess

my parents got a c&d letter like a decade ago so im not allowed to download movies at their house anymore lol

tbh its better that way cause getting the right subs was a massive chore. i did my best, but even if i managed to sync them up (literally, with uh the app that has a parrot as an icon, i changed runtimes and stuff), but the translations were just very bad and obviously written by some teenager and i had to narrate the movie for my mom anyway

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop

eschaton posted:

12-inch magneto optical using a Sony WDD-931

use it for backup of course

oh drat they made a multi-disc changer too, about the size of a microwave oven...



eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
and it’s a standard SCSI peripheral using the standard command set so you can hook it up to pretty much anything

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

eschaton posted:

and it’s a standard SCSI peripheral using the standard command set so you can hook it up to pretty much anything and it won't work

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

JK SCSI isn't any worse a world than any other.

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I always wanted a beartato drive

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