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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I don't think anything is "undefined" about Hermione or Ron. Even Harry gets more of a character as the series matures and becomes much less blatantly childish wish fulfillment.

I've always related very strongly to Ron. I'm also an extremely insecure poor person who is jealous of my brother.

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Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority
Ron's the handsome one.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Shine posted:

Ron's the handsome one.

Handsome Ron was my favourite character in The Gringotts Job.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Probably still the idea that the main protagonists have to be boring so the audience can more easily self-insert into them, while peripheral characters are allowed to have quirks and problems and arcs. (the funny thing is that it never works, audiences usually identify more with a more defined character or just create their own self-inserts)

Hermione thinks slavery is horrendously inhumane. Ron doesn't give no fucks. Harry, your surrogate, has no real opinions on the matter except that Hermione is annoying. Centrism.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
I was watching the Crimes of Grindegoober for the first time last night. Early on there was a moment when it was "You're either with the Nazis or against the Nazis" and the main character was all "I don't pick sides." I could not help myself from saying "gently caress you JK Rowling." At least he realized the Nazis are kind of bad at the end.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
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Harry just kinda feels in his bones that Hermione is going about it the wrong way, and also that David Kelly killed himself for unrelated reasons.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Zesty posted:

I was watching the Crimes of Grindegoober for the first time last night. Early on there was a moment when it was "You're either with the Nazis or against the Nazis" and the main character was all "I don't pick sides." I could not help myself from saying "gently caress you JK Rowling." At least he realized the Nazis are kind of bad at the end.

"Main character is wrong and has to learn a lesson" isn't a huge sin, especially compared with <the entire loving film>.

SerialKilldeer
Apr 25, 2014

Shine posted:

Ron's the handsome one.

Ron's Ron shirt was almost as bad as Ron himself.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

NikkolasKing posted:

I don't think anything is "undefined" about Hermione or Ron. Even Harry gets more of a character as the series matures and becomes much less blatantly childish wish fulfillment.

I've always related very strongly to Ron. I'm also an extremely insecure poor person who is jealous of my brother.

The trio are great in book one but their characters kinda go all over the place as the series goes on. Hermione and Harry have multiple personalities and Ron becomes a prick.

Harry in particular feels like a different dude from chapter to chapter in 5-7.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
the problem is that ron becomes a teenager after being a Dahl-esque sociopath in the first half and a Small Noble Adult Man in the second half of book 1 and most of 2

speaking from experience, nice and pleasant pre-teens can and will turn into loving moronic jerks during puberty, but the pleasantness of those pre-teens is not anything like how the characters act in the early books either

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

The best version of Harry Potter is Wizard People, Dear Reader. I dont think this is arguable.

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

ungulateman posted:

the problem is that ron becomes a teenager after being a Dahl-esque sociopath in the first half and a Small Noble Adult Man in the second half of book 1 and most of 2

speaking from experience, nice and pleasant pre-teens can and will turn into loving moronic jerks during puberty, but the pleasantness of those pre-teens is not anything like how the characters act in the early books either

Ron is a bit of a mess. He's super poor, except he gets 1%er vacations, has his own room, and is only affected by it a couple times (broken wand, bad sandwiches). He goes from a good chess player to magical world historian/cultural expert (but fails these classes because he's a worse student than Harry). Book 5-6 his character basically exists so Harry has someone to talk to and his response is 'whoah harry, that's cool you're the greatest'.

The only story-arch that flows is his alcoholism, he asks for a drink in book 1 and is downing bottles of fire whiskey by the end.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

CptAwesome posted:

The best version of Harry Potter is Wizard People, Dear Reader. I dont think this is arguable.

absolutely. rag time roast beefy ftmfw

PenguinKnight
Apr 6, 2009

CptAwesome posted:

The best version of Harry Potter is Wizard People, Dear Reader. I dont think this is arguable.

💯 the best version

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


My favorite parts are when Brad Neeley gets bored of what's happening in the movie so he has the characters go on bizarre flights of fancy, like Dumbledore as a rotten cake or Harry flying across America.

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.
I like when Neeley can't get over how Professor Flitwick looks, turning the whole charms class scene into a bit about the characters being equally terrified of and confused by their teacher's appearance

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvpPxjCKTqc

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Shine posted:

I am the pig of Hufflepuff.

:hfive:

ProZD reading silly Harry Potter stuff is my favorite thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJmt_LVc_no&list=PLilPt0QyIEg52Co4p0y9wFNs1Q4Py5RyI

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


There used to be on Youtube a thing where someone dubbed over the first movie with Wizard People but most of it got pulled.

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

You can still find it, but theres a couple of chapters I had to use daily motion for. I think my favourite moment is when Voldemort is revealed and the narrator freaks out.

https://youtu.be/cDM_ux_w3VY 3m in

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Queerman? :nallears:

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
It's from 2004, with the unfortunate baggage that sometimes brings in made-for-internet humor. No defense of that one of course, but I don't think Neely has done anything remotely recent to make it seem.. hateful?

I won't fault you for not getting in to it for that though.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


To be honest I never heard it as "Queerman" but more "Quirmin" just turning it into a nonsense word. Also watching that linked one I completely forgot that he rewrote the story so that Voldemort was Harry's dad.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
in the age of the internet, the times and the products thereof are constantly shifting

jenny nicholson, a very funny youtuber, was a brony who straight up wrote a song which used the common slur for the Romani in its title and chorus, and the discourse is continuing on tiktok to this day

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Not that it excuses it, but the average american probably doesn’t even realize that word refers to an ethnic group

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Also my understanding of the situation is that she used it because it is the name of a breed of horse (which people are trying to get changed.)

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

It was a bunch of Hunchback of Notre Dame jokes as an extension of introducing Fluttershy in the first episode by having her sing Hellfire.

Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012
Why has no one invented an full auto avada kedavra? Maybe like on of those old timey crank handle machine guns but it's just a bunch of wands. The battle of hogwarts would have been over in seconds.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Avada Kedavra Extravaganza

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The legendary Alakazam?

Mistaken Identity
Oct 21, 2020

This got me thinking, so avada kedavraing someone somehow stores their soul in your wand ready to be played back/summoned by oddly specific circumstances, right? How does that work? Is it the actual soul/ghost or is it a snapshot of the consciousness? Do wands have a bandwidth/storage capacity? Is there a dead ego stack overflow if you murder too much?

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
The Force™ handles it. Don’t stress it.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Your wand retains a memory of everything it does, the fact that it was mainly murdered people in GoF was just because Voldemort had barely been using his wand for much due to being nearly dead so it didn't have much history aside from murdering. If I recall, the echoes it produces from an Avada Kevavra are explicitly stated by Dumbledore out as being very shallow, less than ghosts, definitely not souls or anything.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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"A wizard did it"

Your wand just has a browsing history, and if you meet someone with the same wand there's an exploit where your wand can make theirs project all their wizard porn into the air.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




You can do it deliberately with any wand, you just need to know how to cast Prior Incantato. Diggory does it to Harry's wand at the World Cup.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Yeah, it's just extremely difficult to reconcile the two outside of the basic concept of "your wand remembers a bunch of stuff". You can just about get away with 'related wands won't fight', but 'related wands won't fight and also do this one spell after a little while' is really pushing it.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

There's no way to erase your wand's browsing history, right? I just remembered that during the time Harry had to go to the ministry for his trial, he had to present his wand for inspection to get in. So presumably everyone will find out how much of a kinky fucker you are.

It's probably how Dumbledore's brother got arrested in the first place.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
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The shadowy form of what was unmistakably a goat unravelled itself from the tip of the outstretched wand...

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 245 days!

Butternubs posted:

Why has no one invented an full auto avada kedavra? Maybe like on of those old timey crank handle machine guns but it's just a bunch of wands. The battle of hogwarts would have been over in seconds.

i'm never going to get over the fact that ultima from final fantasy happens to have a name that is a single latin word with very ominous interpretations

and from the way magic seems to work in harry potter this means that harry is about 40 hours with a Playstation game and the desire to destroy all who oppose him with the ultimate destructive magic from becoming a living nuclear weapon

there are some misaligned neurons in my brain that cannot be convinced that this is not, in fact, actually an incredibly clever observation

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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Snape used magic to sneak into a muggle latin class and that’s how he invented so many spells.

It’s weird that all the muggle borns seem to completely abandon muggle society. You’re telling me Colin Creevey (rip, went offscreen and died) goes home for the summer he doesn’t visit his old pals and realize the wizards don’t have anything as cool as a PlayStation?

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