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Silver2195 posted:So you're saying he's too complex a character to be an OPverse human? Each of those individually, sure maybe, but altogether it paints a pretty strong picture that Kaido aint no fruit muncher. Bisse fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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If the D is Dragon, that would make his dad Monkey Dragon Dragon. XD The last battle is everyone turning into dragons and taking to the skies. That'd be so dumb, yet Oda could probably pull it off.
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Nov 30, 2020 21:19
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Bisse posted:No other zoan that I am aware of has properties of their zoan fruit transferred to their base form.- impossible to say for certain what it was like pre zoan but 
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Nov 30, 2020 22:21
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It would suit the celestial dragons and their personality if they took their name from an actual group that they somehow managed to defeat hundreds of years ago, who had among them/were dragons themselves.
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Nov 30, 2020 22:21
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Tir McDohl posted:A thought regarding Kaido being a dragon. Big Mom prides herself on having representation from every human race in OP, except for giants. But she doesn't have an oni child or crewmate of any sort that is similar to Yamato or Kaido. Might be more evidence they aren't "human"! During King's introduction Big Mom specifically stated that he was some kind of exotic race she didn't have yet and wanted iirc
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Nov 30, 2020 23:09
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Strelok604 posted:During King's introduction Big Mom specifically stated that he was some kind of exotic race she didn't have yet and wanted iirc
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Nov 30, 2020 23:19
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She also explicitly said that there were *three* races that she didn't have in her entourage at that time. We knew one of them were the Giants, and that the second one was King's race. She did not specify what the third one was at the time, but I'm thinking it might be whatever Kaido and Yamato are.
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Nov 30, 2020 23:20
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im guessing king is whatever race urouge is, skypeian or whatever
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Nov 30, 2020 23:22
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euphemism posted:im guessing king is whatever race urouge is, skypeian or whatever Specifically Birkan, they're the ones with big, functional wings. Enel and his priests were from Birka, and they blew it up when they left, which is probably why Big Mom has had trouble finding Birkans 
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Dec 1, 2020 00:04
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oddium posted:impossible to say for certain what it was like pre zoan but Thats Funkfreeds hybrid form
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Begemot posted:Specifically Birkan, they're the ones with big, functional wings. Enel and his priests were from Birka, and they blew it up when they left, which is probably why Big Mom has had trouble finding Birkans She doesnt have shandians or skypeians either though
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Dec 1, 2020 01:03
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boy, i sure hope someone gets fired for THIS blunder
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Crosspeice posted:All the big players get to the roof by chapter 1000, Kaido stares them all down and looks so loving done with this poo poo, none of these fucks are Oden, why are there so many, god my feet hurt. And so begins his flashback. half the pages are illegible because he is drunk during the events.
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Birkans are also the ones from the moon originally. I don't remember if normal skypieans were too Also Shandians were just normal humans who lived on jaya before it got blasted to the sky I thought
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Dec 1, 2020 08:29
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what ship is that falling in the final pages? sunny?
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Meme Emulator posted:She doesnt have shandians or skypeians either though How do you know? We haven't seen all of her islands. There might be a cotton candy sky island somewhere in her territory.
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Dec 1, 2020 09:11
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Spanish Matlock posted:How do you know? We haven't seen all of her islands. There might be a cotton candy sky island somewhere in her territory.
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Strelok604 posted:Birkans are also the ones from the moon originally. I don't remember if normal skypieans were too They're all from the moon, one of the revelations of the Enel cover story is they're all descendents of the moon people who came to the one piece world. It's why they all have wings.
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Dec 1, 2020 11:43
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Strelok604 posted:Birkans are also the ones from the moon originally. I don't remember if normal skypieans were too Nah, they're all from the moon. Birkans and Skypeians settled on sky islands, Shandians settled on the blue sea. The Shandians living on an island that later got blasted into the sky and meeting the Skypeians is a complete coincidence.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:Nah, they're all from the moon. Birkans and Skypeians settled on sky islands, Shandians settled on the blue sea. Well assuming Sky Islands don't really move, it might literally just be the Shandians and Skypeians went together whilst the Birkans separated, and then the Skypeians stopped at Skypiea whilst the Shandians went down to the Blue Sea and settled the closest Island.
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Meme Emulator posted:Thats Funkfreeds hybrid form funkfreed has some weird stuff going on but his hybrid form seems to be like. what if a sword was really long and flexible. and the top of the sword is an elephant head/+sometimes front legs whose trunk is a sword
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Dec 1, 2020 14:08
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So Zoro said he's there to cut Kaido, the toughest mf to ever walk the earth. I kind of think he'll fight Kaido now and Luffy will take on Big Mom. She also has "impenetrable skin" or whatever they said in Bege's assassination plan so Luffy learning to punch through things with Haki should also work on her.
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Dec 1, 2020 14:17
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Luffy/Zoro vs. Big Mom/Kaido tag team match.
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the setup for the fights is kinda inscrutable rn. its funny to read the reddit community comments where every week they have to readjust their expectations based on who matches up against who, but OP really hasn't done a traditional "okay nami fights the girl, luffy fights the big boss, zoro fights the sword user, etc." in many years now so it feels kinda like just guessing
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Man with Hat posted:So Zoro said he's there to cut Kaido, the toughest mf to ever walk the earth. I kind of think he'll fight Kaido now and Luffy will take on Big Mom. I've said it before, but it would be a huge misstep for this arc to have a big thing about Zoro losing a sword and specifically being gifted a replacement sword from Oden's daughter, one of the two swords of Oden, the only man who ever successfully harmed Kaido, with those swords, and then have Kaido defeated by Luffy punching him really hard. Like, I like Luffy punching people as much as anybody, but this is building up to an important Zoro moment and I'm super excited about it.
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tbp posted:the setup for the fights is kinda inscrutable rn. its funny to read the reddit community comments where every week they have to readjust their expectations based on who matches up against who, but OP really hasn't done a traditional "okay nami fights the girl, luffy fights the big boss, zoro fights the sword user, etc." in many years now so it feels kinda like just guessing One Piece is very unpredictable, but doesn't feel random or like things happen for no reason. It's a very tricky line to walk, but Oda is really nailing it. There are so many things going on and so many possibilities that I couldn't begin to tell you what's gonna happen next week, much less the end of the arc or the next one. Like, Zoro could be squaring off with Kaido NEXT WEEK or it could taken two more months, or it could never happen for reasons that are equally satisfying and fit together with what we know now.
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tbp posted:the setup for the fights is kinda inscrutable rn. its funny to read the reddit community comments where every week they have to readjust their expectations based on who matches up against who, but OP really hasn't done a traditional "okay nami fights the girl, luffy fights the big boss, zoro fights the sword user, etc." in many years now so it feels kinda like just guessing People who've spent so long watching cringey, predictable anime filled with the same tropes over and over that they forgot that a good story is supposed to be unpredictable.
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Bleck posted:People who've spent so long watching cringey, predictable anime filled with the same tropes over and over that they forgot that a good story is supposed to be unpredictable. You’re going to have to define unpredictable better considering what you just said about Zoro fighting Kaido.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Luffy/Zoro vs. Big Mom/Kaido tag team match. i think kidd and law and killer are gonna join in on the fight tbh
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Dec 1, 2020 19:27
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Dr Subterfuge posted:You’re going to have to define unpredictable better considering what you just said about Zoro fighting Kaido. The throughline of the story so far is setting up Zoro to fight Kaido, which contrasts with the Shonen Expectation that "the strongest guy in the hero group fights the strongest guy in the villain group". In fact, as long as we're talking about Power Levels, everything we've seen so far post-timeskip suggests that Zoro is significantly more powerful than Luffy is - he's constantly holding back, hasn't struggled with anything or anybody, probably secretly has Conqueror's Haki, etc, we know all this. What I like that's unconventional, in a shonen sense, about the story is the idea that the most powerful member of the crew isn't the leader of the crew. If I had to guess at why he's constantly holding back, it's because he respects Luffy's dream so much that he knows he can't overshadow him as the first mate, because it would jeopardize Luffy's reputation. So, yeah, we can safely predict that Zoro is going to fight - and, presumably, defeat - Kaido. Here's the part that I find unpredictable - if Zoro defeats one of the Yonko, and Luffy maybe doesn't (I don't see Big Mom being taken out of the story before we get to Elbaf), how will that affect Luffy and Zoro? Maybe conflict? We're rapidly approaching the meat and potatoes of the Politics of Piracy in this world, and I feel like our protagonists aren't quite prepared for it, and I'm veRY EXCITED
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Dec 1, 2020 19:51
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Crazy prediction: Zoro is gonna slice Onigashima in half while slicing Kaido.
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Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's. It was a joke about how he made this badass speech that literally shook the ground and then followed up with "uhhh that wasn't me guys" to let you know something was going on with the island.
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Dec 1, 2020 20:37
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I imagine Kaido will be a group fight.
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Ryaomon posted:Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's. It was a joke about how he made this badass speech that literally shook the ground and then followed up with "uhhh that wasn't me guys" to let you know something was going on with the island. rayleigh has it so zoro has to have it too
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Dec 1, 2020 20:50
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scary ghost dog posted:rayleigh has it so zoro has to have it too
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yeah. zoro's gonna have it in the epilogue at least. maybe sooner.
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Dec 1, 2020 20:58
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Zoro uses conqueror's to cut through Shiryu's invisible stairs, finally surpassing and avenging Mihawk.
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Dec 1, 2020 21:02
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zoro could never conquer anything, he'd get lost
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Ryaomon posted:Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's. It was a joke about how he made this badass speech that literally shook the ground and then followed up with "uhhh that wasn't me guys" to let you know something was going on with the island. Yeah, but, see above with what I said about Zoro constantly holding back for what I assume is Luffy's sake.
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zoro woulda got wheeled out in a body bag against katakuri. Whole cake luffy had some of the best stamina feats in the entire manga But I’ll admit he woulda probably beat doffy
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