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Barry Convex posted:what are the glaring continuity errors? Sentry should be red, but I guess they thought that whole plotline wasn't particularly important? And they have the wrong Cable when the X-Men show up, too. I feel like there's another one I've forgotten (I haven't slept much) and I may have oversold it, but these seem like things you'd pick up Then again... gestures vaguely at Hazmat edit: also, given how the entire page is a reference to Seige and there's a new euro-team I wonder if we're gonna get Ares
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Have I lost my drat mind or are they really asking me to pay nearly ten dollars to read a Donny Cates comic?
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Dec 2, 2020 20:42
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KaosMachina posted:And they have the wrong Cable when the X-Men show up, too. They have old Cable? Oof, it's 4 years since young Cable ganked him.
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Dec 2, 2020 20:43
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There's probably something to be said about how the entirety of King in Black feels like it can be traced back to referencing other, better stories, thinking on it Hell, the entire thing revolves around a villain that Cates went "Hey, y'know that cool, mysterious sword in that other book? Yeah that's the sword my new OC made and he's also symbiote god. And also he's Grendel?"
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Dec 2, 2020 20:45
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I was just about to say how Cates did exactly the same thing in his Thor run, where he had Gorr cameo specifically so Thor could say "But Donny Cates' story is even more badass and dark than this, times a billion!" The design of Knull even cribs heavily from Malekith in War of the Realms. The Sentry scene mixed with how stunningly out of place Brock feels palling around with everybody just crystallizes how immature Cates feels as a writer to me. This feels like a writer's wish-fulfillment story. This feels like something Todd McFarlane would write in the 90s. This was 39 pages of Cates "What if Metalocalypse, but without the self-awareness and humour?"
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Dec 2, 2020 21:02
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Sometimes I wonder if Jason Aaron just silently seethes in his office, watching editorial let Cates take a poo poo all over the work he spent 7 years building
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Dec 2, 2020 21:13
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Nilbop posted:I was just about to say how Cates did exactly the same thing in his Thor run, where he had Gorr cameo specifically so Thor could say "But Donny Cates' story is even more badass and dark than this, times a billion!" The design of Knull even cribs heavily from Malekith in War of the Realms. I gotta be honest, you guys are really selling me on King in Black
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site posted:Sometimes I wonder if Jason Aaron just silently seethes in his office, watching editorial let Cates take a poo poo all over the work he spent 7 years building
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Dec 2, 2020 21:28
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I...actually did not know he did X-Men
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Dec 2, 2020 21:30
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Wolverine and the X-Men and Amazing X-Men. Over the top silliness and fun.
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I think Wolverine and the X-Men is the first time Krakoa is represented as something other than a wholly malevolent force.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Wolverine and the X-Men and Amazing X-Men. Over the top silliness and fun. He only did the first arc of Amazing i believe, but it's a hell of an arc.
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Gripweed posted:I gotta be honest, you guys are really selling me on King in Black By all means if this sounds like your jam then go for it. I will say that Cates picked his artist perfectly. Stegman has captured the energy of what Cates was going for masterfully. I just don't care for that energy at all anymore. I can totally see the far-distant me who thought Spawn was the coolest thing in the world go in for it.
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Codependent Poster posted:I'm glad Champions pulled that card at the end. It makes total sense and I'm happy that the writers didn't try and figure out a reason that wouldn't happen. On the other hand though, it absolutely makes total sense that this character would 100% do this anyway because their balls are filled with pure refined beskar and he's the only white boy I trust up in this joint. Cyclops...is right 
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KaosMachina posted:Sentry should be red, but I guess they thought that whole plotline wasn't particularly important? I just assumed that Sentry merging with Void had been undone in some other comic I hadn't read, but maybe it wasn't this may also just be me, but I found the visual storytelling on the Knull/Sentry splash to be unclear. couldn't tell at first if he was meant to be tearing Void off as though it were a symbiote or ripping Sentry apart a la Ares
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Dec 2, 2020 23:56
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Skwirl posted:They have old Cable? Oof, it's 4 years since young Cable ganked him. They sure do!   I'm glad to see my boy back in action, but someone probably should've told Donny Cates about Extermination. 
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Would you really put that on Cates? Wouldn't that be up to the artist to make sure he was drawing the right Cable?Barry Convex posted:I just assumed that Sentry merging with Void had been undone in some other comic I hadn't read, but maybe it wasn't It was, they were split again when the Sentry went into the Negative Zone to try and find inner balance. Void just became a separate entity and opened a portal to the Cancerverse. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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I doubt Donny Cates said "put in old Cable" that's probably on Stegman
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Would you really put that on Cates? Wouldn't that be up to the artist to make sure he was drawing the right Cable? Oh, good point! I didn't even think of that. The script probably wouldn't specify that sort of thing when one of the versions of the characters is turbodead.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Would you really put that on Cates? Wouldn't that be up to the artist to make sure he was drawing the right Cable? Yeah, that's an artist thing.
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I choose to believe that that is young cable. He looks too skinny for liefield cable
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Harold Fjord posted:I choose to believe that that is young cable. He looks too skinny for liefield cable Liefeld Cable was a slim boy by the mid 90s
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Harold Fjord posted:I choose to believe that that is young cable. He looks too skinny for liefield cable Yeah, that's a very subdued Cable desgin for Ryan "Eddie Brock is wider than he is tall" Stegman. This is not an insult by the way, I love Ryan Stegman's artwork.
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site posted:Archy look at what you did Too bad I already resigned in disgrace because now I deserve it.
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I am a big Sentry fan, and while his death was just a waste of three pages to set up how strong and crazy Knull is (ugh), I did like that it perfectly mirrors his 1st appearance in New Avengers.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I am a big Sentry fan, and while his death was just a waste of three pages to set up how strong and crazy Knull is (ugh), I did like that it perfectly mirrors his 1st appearance in New Avengers. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It was, they were split again when the Sentry went into the Negative Zone to try and find inner balance. Void just became a separate entity and opened a portal to the Cancerverse. Where was this
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I went ahead and asked on Twitter and yeah, that's definitely old Cable in KiB and it was definitely an accident. https://twitter.com/RyanStegman/status/1334306989334290432 e: I do love the implication that, even now, Stegman thinks Cable was de-aged and not killed by his younger self. Understandable mistake, though. JordanKai fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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JordanKai posted:I went ahead and asked on Twitter and yeah, that's definitely old Cable in KiB and it was definitely an accident. Like, it's not his job to know everything about comics continuity, but kid Cable has been around for four years and has his own book from that same publisher, I feel like an editor, I feel like an editor should have caught that, and it probably could have been fixed without redrawing the whole page.
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His editor definitely should have caught it.
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I find it even worse since (kid) Cable has his own solo series; it's not some obscure character that appears every once in a while, he is the star of his own book. On to better comics, Chip's Daredevil keeps getting better every month; besides X-Men stuff, Daredevil and Immortal Hulk are the best books every month.
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So character of the decade: Knull or The Batman who Laughs?
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So we're getting Mike Murdock is: MATT MURDOCK, part 2, where he's a totally different person from Daredevil, because Daredevil is in jail. Huh. Happy Noodle Boy posted:So character of the decade: Knull or The Batman who Laughs? Obviously we know the plot of the next Amalgam crossover now, since we're revisiting all the 90s tone hits now, including the desperate need for sales in the face of bankruptcy
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KaosMachina posted:accidental dp Name of my punk band
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site posted:Where was this Annihilation: Scourge from last November. It was one of the 80th anniversary minis.
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KaosMachina posted:So we're getting Mike Murdock is: MATT MURDOCK, part 2, where he's a totally different person from Daredevil, because Daredevil is in jail. I need to catch up on Daredevil, but what ever happened to his identical twin Mike Murdock? He could be one or the other Matt Murdock.
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God Knull is just so boring to look at. I don't know if this would be a good comic if he had a decent design but having an abysmally dull one sure doesn't help.
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