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Vorik posted:How much of a performance hit could DRM software really be? Not sure how taxing those kinds of things are. I doubt it will affect benchmark results much. It's Denuvo, so quite alot.
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Is this just an RPG like the Witcher but with guns and neon lights, or is it really a Deus Ex style immersive sim where you can creatively engineer your own solutions to problems and any given mission can be solved lots of different ways because the world has been designed open-ended enough for that to be possible? Also is that absurd video from a page or so back where the enemy noclip walks through the air and 4-shots you after barely flinching from you dumping multiple straight into his face the norm in this game? Because that's like... Fallout 76 level bad. Has the game been zoned with hard-coded level enemies like an MMO or something? GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Dec 7, 2020 |
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I said come in! posted:They are talking about Denovu, the performance claim is false in this case. With VM packers like Denuvo it depends on which parts of the executable get transformed, they're supposed to carefully mark out non-performance-critical sections to be DRMed but for a press-only release I could see them half assing that and letting it insert checks wherever
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OAquinas posted:I mean, the takeaway I have thus far is: Yeah that seems like the takeaways so far. Also, 2 days remain  we're only like 48 hours out now!
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its also uses side quests to expand the world and the characters and increase run time. you can mainline yakuza games pretty quick if you stick to it do nothing elese. Oh, there won't be a lack of side quests in 2077.
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I doubt it made sense to implement it well considering it was solely to keep reviewers from leaking the game. Sucks but it's reality
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Vorik posted:How much of a performance hit could DRM software really be? Not sure how taxing those kinds of things are. I doubt it will affect benchmark results much.
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ymgve posted:Oh, there won't be a lack of side quests in 2077. oh i know. and alot of them tie into getting better/"better" endings.
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Reminder for American goons buying this on Xbox, you can play at like 5am pacific time this Wednesday by switching your console region to New Zealand.
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Bardeh posted:I feel pity for the poor fuckers who only have an Xbox One S to play this on. Everyone else (apart from maybe base PS4) will eventually get a decent game once it's been patched a lot, but that version is never going to run acceptably, I guarantee it. worse than the base xbox one? what's specific about the S that would cause this?
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GreatGreen posted:Is this just an RPG like the Witcher but with guns and neon lights, or is it really a Deus Ex style immersive sim where you can creatively engineer your own solutions to problems and any given mission can be solved lots of different ways because the world has been designed open-ended enough for that to be possible? Pretty Deus Ex-y by a lot of accounts.
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GreatGreen posted:Is this just an RPG like the Witcher but with guns and neon lights, or is it really a Deus Ex style immersive sim where you can creatively engineer your own solutions to problems and any given mission can be solved lots of different ways because the world has been designed open-ended enough for that to be possible? Closer to the first than the second but not entirely unlike the second. I said come in! posted:Reminder for American goons buying this on Xbox, you can play at like 5am pacific time this Wednesday by switching your console region to New Zealand. And all PC goons everywhere get this without any VPN trickery at all 
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Shammypants posted:“You do need a horny art director who is into men...” to get the design right both ways. Heh Square manages to get it right with making hot men and putting them out there. If this game is beefed up soldier looking dudes what's the point? You're telling me no one wants to be Cloud Strife?! 
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Bardeh posted:I feel pity for the poor fuckers who only have an Xbox One S to play this on. Everyone else (apart from maybe base PS4) will eventually get a decent game once it's been patched a lot, but that version is never going to run acceptably, I guarantee it. https://twitter.com/Zimm804/status/1335602672020361216
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Tech jesus has spoken
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repiv posted:With VM packers like Denuvo it depends on which parts of the executable get transformed, they're supposed to carefully mark out non-performance-critical sections to be DRMed but for a press-only release I could see them half assing that and letting it insert checks wherever Even dtrace, which is an entire virtual machine implemented for the sole purpose of doing machine-wide tracing on very busy production systems, and which has been worked on for decades, measurably degrades performance if you ask it to trace the wrong things. Since anti-tampering technologies relies on tracing everything, it'll undoubtedly trace the wrong things.
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yeah its hosed on Base consoles.
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Hahaha no loving way, that’s gotta be a pc running everything on low right?
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https://twitter.com/GermanStrands/status/1336014953640325128?s=20
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I think The Elder Scrolls 3-5 comest closest to the "all buildings are enterable in an open world" idea. Of course, this leads to prefab houses where the only difference is the items placed inside, and a generally smaller scope, but it does a lot in terms of that "you can go anywhere" feeling.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Hahaha no loving way, that’s gotta be a pc running everything on low right? Any non b-roll footage of the game in the wild right now is from leaked console copies to my knowledge
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*plays game like it is GTA* hmmm...this seems a little too much like GTA 
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Shammypants posted:I guess that one mediocre review on metacritic points to a couple of instances where you can't interact with street food vendors even though the food looks real with steam and everything and the vendor looks like an interesting character. There were other examples offered but it doesn't seem like a critical thing to code into the game. As someone who adored RDR2, one of the things that really stuck with me was the ability to poo poo talk every single NPC. Even if you couldn’t do anything else with someone, that little bit of interactivity made the world immersive on a level I’ve felt lacking in just about every game I’ve played since.
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Shammypants posted:“You do need a horny art director who is into men...” to get the design right both ways. Heh Seems like a weird omission on CDPR side. And if the dead dude in the bathtub is really the only person with shorts on then it will get really weird. Hard to believe dicks on NPCs are enough to push the game to AO ranking.
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ymgve posted:I think The Elder Scrolls 3-5 comest closest to the "all buildings are enterable in an open world" idea. Of course, this leads to prefab houses where the only difference is the items placed inside, and a generally smaller scope, but it does a lot in terms of that "you can go anywhere" feeling. That or MMOs. Everquest, World of Warcraft, they tend to actually have all buildings or very close to it be enterable. Course they're mostly the same 3 buildings copy and pasted over and over and over... I was disappointed in GTA5 that it had fewer interiors than GTA4, but I don't need EVERY building to be enterable. Its a bit much to demand.
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Bardeh posted:I feel pity for the poor fuckers who only have an Xbox One S to play this on. Everyone else (apart from maybe base PS4) will eventually get a decent game once it's been patched a lot, but that version is never going to run acceptably, I guarantee it. the one S will do as "fine" as the base ps4/slim, its the original xbox one that is probably going to struggle more.
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liberal crime squad fits the bill for an rpg where you can go into any building and do something meaningful, though you have to be a fan of ASCII psuedo-comedy games with a gang management twist (i am). It's made by the dude who does dwarf fortress and was abandoned like 10 years ago but has had updates done by the bay12 community since then
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No Mods No Masters posted:Any non b-roll footage of the game in the wild right now is from leaked console copies to my knowledge Also, while it definitely sucks on base consoles, that is a loving Twitter video, which degrades quality to poop Zaphod42 posted:That or MMOs. Everquest, World of Warcraft, they tend to actually have all buildings or very close to it be enterable. Yeah, the illusion is more important than if you actually can do it. I like that devs have started to use that Spider-man effect to make it look like every building has rooms behind their windows, which gives a lot more depth in the world. ymgve fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 7, 2020 |
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Stuff that's apparently like Deus Ex: Viability of sneaking & hacking, multiple paths through missions Lethal & nonlethal options, quiet & loud combat options Melee combat that feels meh  Stuff apparently more like W3 Main story & side quest structure More open world instead of hub-based More elaborate attribute/skill system than any Deus Ex games 1,000,000 more dress-up options
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Vorik posted:How much of a performance hit could DRM software really be? Not sure how taxing those kinds of things are. I doubt it will affect benchmark results much. Denuvo has a measurable but minor impact; outside of cases where you're extremely CPU bound it isn't likely to be noticeable or the main bottleneck on performance. It's basically a plea not to benchmark the game until the ~real~ patch on day one. We'll see how much that matters, but historically the myth of the day one patch is just that.
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I mean it's a bit worrying that one review compares the hacking options unfavorably to Watch Dogs. That's a yikes.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Hahaha no loving way, that’s gotta be a pc running everything on low right? Most of the weirdness looks like things that would be broken on any platform and not console specific. E.g. stiff animations. It’s hard to tell though because Twitter (at least for me) loves to serve up the first 30 seconds of a video compressed to hell.
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alex314 posted:Hard to believe dicks on NPCs are enough to push the game to AO ranking. A lot of rating agencies have historically been much stricter about frontal male nudity than equivalent female nudity, I believe. It’s patriarchical bullshit, but it could be the case in PEGI or whatever as well.
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I know I'm supposed to be focusing on the bad textures and pop-in on that video but all I can do is drool  at how amazing that city street and all the skyscrapers look and how I can't wait to jack a car and just do donuts around town
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Celexi posted:wow thats bad tbh other then the wonky animations it seems fine? like not crystal clear beautiful but sure?
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this is an old leak from before the patch but who cares
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Simone Magus posted:I mean it's a bit worrying that one review compares the hacking options unfavorably to Watch Dogs. That's a yikes. I mean there are two entirely different hacking skill trees plus augs and poo poo to play with, so it's hard how to see that's worse than PHONE IS MAGIC LOL
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