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are brave boys
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 17:14 |
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Amazon commentary just correctly observed that England likely will be the champions of the Autumn Nations Cup for all of eternity.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 17:22 |
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Tyma posted:Amazon commentary just correctly observed that England likely will be the champions of the Autumn Nations Cup for all of eternity. Scotland are undefeated 5 Nations Champions so hey why not.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 17:22 |
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Tyma posted:Amazon commentary just correctly observed that England likely will be the champions of the Autumn Nations Cup for all of eternity. Well they gave Vunipola POTM despite being bang average all game so might as well crown England ANC champs forever just to make sure everyone knows they have one eye.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 17:36 |
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Haha I missed it live and had multiple people tell me to watch the game...that is not at all what I expected! If France can develop some of these guys and keep their young core group on the A team, they can be a real powerhouse in a year or two.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 00:40 |
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sleep with the vicious posted:Haha I missed it live and had multiple people tell me to watch the game...that is not at all what I expected! France should always fluctuate between being incredibly good and incredibly poo poo. Like winning a test in NZ, a feat few teams have achieved in the last 25 years, winning the 6 Nations with a Grand Slam, only to lose to Tonga at the subsequent RWC, fall apart behind the scenes, just scrape into the play-off rounds at that same World Cup and stumble backwards into the final, which they almost win.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 01:30 |
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sleep with the vicious posted:Haha I missed it live and had multiple people tell me to watch the game...that is not at all what I expected! Yeah, the old quote about what French side will show up is getting more and more ominous. Will they send out the excellent established side or will they send out their 2x U20 World Championship side?
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 01:52 |
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England really weren't great, France can really feel like they were cheated with stuff like this https://twitter.com/derekalberts1/status/1335613471979937793
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 11:51 |
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The last was was particularly bad, he either loses it forwards, plays it on the ground or both.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 12:58 |
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England's greatest rugby achievement was entirely based off Neil Back successfully playing the ball on the floor without getting caught, so, uh, still sticking with Are Brave Lads
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 13:12 |
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Eddie is such a whingy baby.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 13:46 |
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I went down the rabbit hole of Nigel Owens highlights this evening and am now wishing for him to come to my dumb school tomorrow and scold all my students because I just can't be bothered anymore.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 15:45 |
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tarbrush posted:England's greatest rugby achievement was entirely based off Neil Back successfully playing the ball on the floor without getting caught, so, uh, still sticking with Are Brave Lads For a minute I thought you were referring to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAfepsoVPtQ
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 19:55 |
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Hah, have never seen that before, but entirely in keeping
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 21:00 |
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Plucky Brit posted:For a minute I thought you were referring to this: I know Munster fans that are still psychologically scarred from that moment. goatface posted:Eddie is such a whingy baby. What's he done now?
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 22:09 |
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Decided everyone criticising England for barely beating France B is disrespecting them. Because they won, you see, what more could you want?
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 22:20 |
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Ah, typical Eddie making a scene for the press so everyone stops paying attention to the performance and pays attention to him. What a twat.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 22:23 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/08/all-blacks-dominate-as-richie-mccaw-named-world-rugby-player-of-the-decade Disagree with BOD and George North. Not because BOD isn’t one of the greats but he only played for Ireland until 2014 in the decade and obviously that was not at his peak either. Thoughts?
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 06:31 |
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Mister Chief posted:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/08/all-blacks-dominate-as-richie-mccaw-named-world-rugby-player-of-the-decade Yeah I think if you're including BOD then surely you have to be thinking about Dusautoir as well or even Picamoles for that matter. If you're going to bump Kieran Reed for someone it should be Toby Faletau not Sergio really. It feels like they've just tried to get some NH players in there so duped North in there when Savea was left out.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 13:01 |
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I think Sergio deserves his spot. When Steve Hansen is saying he's one of the best 8s in the world, especially playing for that Italy side, it's hard to argue against his inclusion. If he'd played for any other country he'd be far higher rated than he is. Falatau is outstanding but he was also in one of the best Welsh sides of all time with one of the best coaches at the time which is a big help.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 14:54 |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55201237 8 former international players and another 70 players aged between 25 and 55 are suing WR, the RFU, and the WRU for negligence surrounding concussions. E: After the NFL case, it really was only a matter of time before this happened and it's important to highlight just how poo poo rugby has been at looking after players, especially once they retire. Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Dec 8, 2020 |
# ? Dec 8, 2020 16:39 |
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But their profit margins
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 16:41 |
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Shontayne Hape's article on concussion is harrowing. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/shontayne-hape-my-battle-with-concussion/CGBEXHZROCMNKPAD5BYKPBAL5Y/
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 18:44 |
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Steve Thompson in group of ex-rugby union internationals to sue for brain damage - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55201237 This one too
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 19:29 |
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This interview between John Beattie and John Shaw was horrifying. To see the effects of concussions in the middle of on interview was frightening and should be a warning to everyone that doesn't take it seriously. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1144894692201414
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 19:30 |
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Scary thing is I have absolutely no idea what they can do about it without utterly changing the game Taking heading out of football for example would be a massive change but not out of the realms of possibility, but rugby?
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 19:34 |
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I don't think there is anything to do to take it out the game completely, rugby just has to make things as safe as possible. Lowering tackle height, immediate medical intervention, training neurologists on hand to diagnose people and not the team drs. If players are protected as much as humanly possible and given the correct support and care during and after their careers then it comes down to risk management and players able to make informed choices about the dangers of the sport instead of what happened to the players in the 90s and 00s who are suing. I suppose the law suit comes down to the players not being made aware of the serious dangers and not given the care they needed rather than the fact that concussions happen in the sport at all but it's a very tricky thing to untangle.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 20:00 |
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It's not even the full concussions, though all that needs doing, it's all the little micro-trauma that builds up over time unnoticed. To stop it all you'd need to change the entire forwards game. Scrums, rucks, mauls, even completely fairly contested lineouts frequently have someone accidentally coming down on someone else's head. Tackling would need to be reworked somehow. Ban the chargedown. Probably countless other little things. Reducing the damage would probably come down to limiting full contact training and thinning the calendar. Neither of which would go down well with the money people.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 20:11 |
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Yeah, not beasting forwards and making them do 100 scrums in a row because coaches want to get something right would be a good start. I know the NFL has rules around how much contact training players can have in the Pre-Season so maybe something like that? It's a hell of a thing to try to get right.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 20:17 |
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I wonder if there is much difference between league and union with the amount of damage done
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 20:43 |
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Skarsnik posted:I wonder if there is much difference between league and union with the amount of damage done Some of the tackles in league that a lot of people seem to think are fine are totally wild, and I enjoy watching league but the head care seems to be a bit behind union from what I've seen.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 22:21 |
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Nige has retired from the international game.
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# ? Dec 11, 2020 16:04 |
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https://youtu.be/in3jOLBazIM
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# ? Dec 12, 2020 05:45 |
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Going out after your 100th international match is a pretty pro tier move.
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# ? Dec 12, 2020 07:12 |
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It’s good to know that in this mad, fast-moving world, Wales and Australia and Fiji will always meet once every four years at the World Cup
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# ? Dec 14, 2020 13:23 |
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fallingdownjoe posted:It’s good to know that in this mad, fast-moving world, Wales and Australia and Fiji will always meet once every four years at the World Cup Like sand through the hour glass...
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# ? Dec 14, 2020 13:39 |
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Best friends.
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# ? Dec 14, 2020 13:40 |
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That pool A is a bit of a wash unless Italy complete a real revolution in the next few years, though France - NZ early tournament should be an interesting watch. The other groups look like they should all be reasonably well contested.
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# ? Dec 14, 2020 14:10 |
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Group B is going to be South Africa walking it and Scotland making GBS threads the bed in spectacular fashion against Ireland unless we can sort out poo poo out very soon.
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# ? Dec 14, 2020 20:12 |
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And Ireland will lose to France in the quarter finals. And thus the great circle ever turns.
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