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Is this another case of a sci-fi author inserting a wired fetish in theirs stories? Because even though pissing and making GBS threads your pants is apart of aerospace history, I can't help but feel someone used this an an excuse to get them pampers into star wars.
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Linux Pirate posted:Is this another case of a sci-fi author inserting a wired fetish in theirs stories? Because even though pissing and making GBS threads your pants is apart of aerospace history, I can't help but feel someone used this an an excuse to get them pampers into star wars. Chris Claremont's fetish for mind control
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Linux Pirate posted:Is this another case of a sci-fi author inserting a wired fetish in theirs stories? Because even though pissing and making GBS threads your pants is apart of aerospace history, I can't help but feel someone used this an an excuse to get them pampers into star wars. corran horn hosed an otter
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Linux Pirate posted:Is this another case of a sci-fi author inserting a wired fetish in theirs stories? Because even though pissing and making GBS threads your pants is apart of aerospace history, I can't help but feel someone used this an an excuse to get them pampers into star wars. the diapers might not be a fetish thing on their own but the story ("Rendezvous Point" by Jason Fry) also spends what i would call a suspicious amount of time talking about how sweaty and smelly the pilots get and contains a subplot about one of them pranking people by spraying animal musk on them. maybe that also is a real pilot thing i didn't know about and i've just been online too long but nonetheless: hmm.
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Up Circle posted:corran horn hosed an otter Lmfao
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Up Circle posted:corran horn hosed an otter I've been assuming that's just an artifact of different EU authors not knowing which of the eighty different alien species are humans with forehead bumps, weird bugs, or furries. But I would love to find out that Corran Horn hosed an otter in the same book (or the same author) that the otters were described.
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Speleothing posted:I've been assuming that's just an artifact of different EU authors not knowing which of the eighty different alien species are humans with forehead bumps, weird bugs, or furries. Nope, it's 100% deliberate by the author. It's not an event that happens in the book, but something that happened in Corran's past and the story of him going out and getting it on with a Selonian gets told when another human pilot (Gavin Darklighter) asks him about relationships with non-humans, as he's interested in a Bothan (Asyr Sei'lar). The whole point ends up being "Yeah, the sex was amazing, but it turned out Corran was kinda allergic to her fur and afterwards it felt like he was sunburned all over, and she was kinda allergic to his sweat, so there's all sorts of stuff you have to think about for interspecies sexy times," plus there were cultural aspects that made it so they knew it would never be a long term thing. Unlike Bothans, whose exact depiction and appearance has varied a fair bit over the years before it was more or less finalized, AFAIK Selonians were always basically otter-like. fartknocker fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 27, 2020 |
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I've found myself in otter situations than this!
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The whole scene is especially weird because if you take away the whole human/Selonian (space otter people) weirdness it's basically a conversation about how they hooked up, realized it wouldn't work, and were super cool and adult about it. Totally out of character for an X-Wing pilot. Disclaimer: I last read this as a teenager
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Mass Effect has a lot of stuff in the codex about right-handed and left-handed amino acids, so species with dextro-proteins can't process foods made from sinister-proteins and vice versa. There's a conversation you can overhear where a turian is really trying to Nice Guy his quarian friend after she broke up with her last boyfriend, and he's commenting that she should at least date somebody who can eat the same food as her (Turians and quarians are the only major dextro-protein species in the setting). Of course, that conversation also goes on to reveal that quarian suits have built-in vibrating functions, and later when you find the Shadow Broker and look at his secret files on your squadmates, you can see Tali's suit log about uninstalling and reinstalling a stimulation program.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Mass Effect has a lot of stuff in the codex about right-handed and left-handed amino acids, so species with dextro-proteins can't process foods made from sinister-proteins and vice versa. There's a conversation you can overhear where a turian is really trying to Nice Guy his quarian friend after she broke up with her last boyfriend, and he's commenting that she should at least date somebody who can eat the same food as her (Turians and quarians are the only major dextro-protein species in the setting). Plus if you romance Garrus, Mordin tells Shepard not to swallow
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OctoberCountry posted:Plus if you romance Garrus, Mordin tells Shepard not to swallow Lol I don’t remember that at all.
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Mordin gives medical advice for every romance option. Although I can't find any advice on asari, which is weird, since that's the romance option that can actually kill you ingame. That's on top of alluding to some member of the crew having some alien dog disease that may be an STD and advising the guy with glass bones on robot sex. Mass Effect is at most 10% alien sex by volume, but sometimes it just takes over everything. Also maybe more people would like Thane if they leaned heavier into the  where can trip by licking him like a toad.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Also maybe more people would like Thane if they leaned heavier into the Personal favorite thing I saw playing with that: 
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Jazerus posted:why does my thread title keep getting changed to be dull. this ain't star wars science, that's for the people who debate the specs of star destroyers I listened to one of those on a plane. it was one where quark and rom go to space Dachau because the bajorians are sorta almost at war with the ferengi or some weird poo poo. Defiance Industries posted:I guess Stackpole no longer has the pull to make them literally put him in the game as his self-insert character like they did for the CCG. dave anthony in space.
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Luke sold the burnt out husk of the Lars family farm to an alien named Throgg. Throgg was later dispossessed by Biggs Darklighter’s dad, who convinced the local authorities to pass a racist ballot initiative to expropriate him. Facts
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Let's talk about Boba Fett for way longer than anyone should care. He shows up in the holiday special riding a dinosaur, kidnaps Han in Empire and gets owned pretty thoroughly by a blind Han in Jedi, falling into a pit, never to be seen on film again. But his armor looks cool and he's not scared by Vader, so fans have latched onto him as someone who must have an awesome backstory and can't possibly be as lame and ineffective as he is in the movies. Enter DKM  Daniel Keys Moran He's a pretty heavy sci fi writer and computer programmer who maintains multiple blogs, writes a lot about AI, and I honestly know very little about him beyond his wikipedia page. The eye patch is real; he lost an eye due to macular degeneration back in 2005. Back in the 90s, Kevin J Anderson put together three of the best/worst anthologies to ever grace the Star Wars universe, Tales from... and DKM contributed one to each of them. In Tales from Mos Eisley Cantina, he wrote a wonderfully ridiculous story about the devil looking guy who, it turns out, is a huge fan of the cantina band, loves their music, has a massive record collection, and incidentally is a masive war criminal responsible for millions of deaths with a huge bounty on his head. He gets captured by Boba Fett in the novella DKM wrote for Tales of the Bounty Hunters In Tales from Jabba's Palace, DKM wrote a weird story about Boba Fett slowly going nuts and hallucinating while in the sarlacc pit. In this story, we learn that not only did Jabba offer Princess Leia to Fett for the night (Fett declined and IIRC slept on the floor, considering the whole situation disgusting), but also, more importantly, that Fett's helmet has a retractable straw, so he can drink without showing his face. They edited this Boba Fett story so much that he had it published under a psudonym quote:I don’t know what happened with “A Barve Like That.” I agreed to do it, then they told me I couldn’t really write my outline, where Fett spent years down in the Sarlacc; he could only be down there for a day or two. So I wrote that story. Then they told me the Sarlacc couldn’t be intelligent, which was the actual center of the weakened story, so I took all the Sarlacc’s contribution to the story and gave it to one of Fett’s fellow prisoners “Susejo,” or O Jesus backwards. I’ve had people write me telling me they loved that story, and OK, but man, it was only a shadow of what it should have been. In its final form Fett falls into the Sarlacc, argues with a fellow prisoner, and climbs back out again. Eh. Finally, in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, we learn that Boba Fett used to be Jaster Mereel, who was basically Judge Dredd, exiled from his planet after killing a corrupt superior officer. It's an otherwise fairly alright space cowboy story, retelling the original Star Wars films from Fett's POV, and literally ending with Han and Fett in a Mexican standoff on a desert planet with no resolution to who gets shot and killed. It also includes the death of Jodo Kast, who we'll get to in a moment. But, this story does lead into one of the weirdest attempts by fans to make everything true. See, a couple years after the novella was published, Attack of the Clones comes out, and Lucas gives Fett an entirely different backstory (different still from Lucas' original idea back in Empire, where Fett would be Vader's brother). But these fans want cool space Judge Dredd, not weird clone storm trooper kid, but they also can't deny the events of the movies as being more "real" (whatever that means) than the published fan fiction. The stories had to fit together, somehow. As we all know, it can't be that Lucas didn't read and doesn't care about KJA's anthologies. Thus, Jaster Mereel was Jango Fett's adopted father, killed during the Mandalorian Civil War, and uh.. we're just going to quote from Wookiepedia here... quote:Boba would unwittingly follow in his grandfather's footsteps, becoming a Journeyman Protector only to be exiled from Concord Dawn after killing a superior officer. In Boba's case, however, the officer in question was a man by the name of Lenovar whom he had greatly respected, and whom Boba killed after Lenovar raped Boba's wife, Sintas Vel. Star Wars, everybody! The Most Star Wars Novel Quote posted:"Ah, Jodo Kast, finally we meet. Normally I do not retain an individual I have not met, but your reputation precedes you." Now, onto Jodo Kast. This guy was invented as a literal palate swap of Boba Fett for the WEG Star Wars RPG, so that players of lower level could interact with/fight Fett without making Fett look as weak and dumb as he is in the movies, and, if killed by the players, it wouldn't effect the events of the movies (because heaven forbid your RPG campaign diverge from the source material!).  Jodo Kast is orange, Boba Fett is red Kast was a former Reoublic special ops soldier who killed a Mandalorian mercenary named, I poo poo you not, Feskitt Bobb, whom Kast has mistaken for Boba Fett. Kast took his armor, and started bopping around the galaxy, letting people think he was Boba Fett (who, after all, he'd just killed, and thus was entitled to the name). The problem being that Kast kinda sucked, and so fans everywhere had a wonderful out: whenever Boba Fett did somethign stupid, or looked weak, or something dumb happened to him, it was Jodo Kast, not Boba Fett. Kast was killed not once, but twice, by Boba Fett, both in the aforementioned novella in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, but also in a comic called Twin Engines of Destruction. Why the fans don't try to recocile this is a mystery we will never solve. I like to imagine the fight actually went something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ByYrpgnC8
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While we're on the topic, holy poo poo the Boba Fett armor looks so cheap and lovely compared to the other mandalorian sets we see in the show.
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Apparently the knee darts he uses in the last episode were only ever mentioned in one of those kids books where they show a picture of a costume, prop, or space ship and point out a bunch a facts about it. EDIT - Star Wars Visual Dictionary 
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Super Waffle posted:Apparently the knee darts he uses in the last episode were only ever mentioned in one of those kids books where they show a picture of a costume, prop, or space ship and point out a bunch a facts about it. This is one of the things I'm really enjoying about the Mandalorian. I'm only on episode four of season one, but there's been a ton of little things just sprinkled throughout that say "I, the writer, am intimately familiar with the Star Wars universe, but I'm also not going to be a weirdo about it". Things like the protagonist carrying the same rifle that Boba Fett did in the animated holiday special, or mentioning off handedly that Mandalorians used to ride the dinosaur looking things that Fett rides in that same cartoon. They're fun if you pick up on them, but if you don't, they don't effect your enjoyment of the show. I feel like under a different writer/director, that scene with Werner Herzog when the protagonist hands over the child would have gone like "Ah, a Bespinian Ice Cream transporter. I've heard of these being used on Cloud City to transport important plans" or something dumb like that. instead, Herzog just sets it on the table, you the viewer either get the reference or you don't, then it opens to show the beskar and the plot keeps moving. If you haven't obsessivly watched Empire/followed Star Wars memes, the scene still works, because it's obviously some sort of space briefcase, and this is the scene in every crime movie where the bad guy pays for something with a briefcase full of money. That's how you do an effective continuity wank; use the aesthetic well and don't rely on folks having outside information to make the plot move forward. You don't need to "reward" fans for knowing who secretly blew out the birthday candles at Mon Mothma and General Dodonna's joint birthday party, prompting Booster Terrik to tell Mara Jade to propose to Luke (it was Carnor Jax, acting under orders from Lumiya).
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Toph Bei Fong posted:That's how you do an effective continuity wank; use the aesthetic well and don't rely on folks having outside information to make the plot move forward. You don't need to "reward" fans for knowing who secretly blew out the birthday candles at Mon Mothma and General Dodonna's joint birthday party, prompting Booster Terrik to tell Mara Jade to propose to Luke (it was Carnor Jax, acting under orders from Lumiya). bossk delivered the cake. the candles were a betrayal
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Let's talk about Boba Fett for way longer than anyone should care. Thank you for this
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I genuinely don't understand the fascination with Boba Fett. He stands around, makes a single delivery and then dies like a bitch.
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Defiance Industries posted:I genuinely don't understand the fascination with Boba Fett. He stands around, makes a single delivery and then dies like a bitch. He had a cool helmet.
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He looks like he's wearing cargo sweatpants
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I mainly know Jango Fett's backstory from his video game that had his origin comic book contained as collectable pages. Jango had a lady Watto as his friend planning his missions for him and met Zam Wessell while trying to capture a Sebulba. And he sure did set a lot of civilians on fire to see them roll around on the ground 'til they die. Defiance Industries posted:I genuinely don't understand the fascination with Boba Fett. He stands around, makes a single delivery and then dies like a bitch. Not too hard to look good against this lineup.  Probably the holiday special also built up his appeal, since the cartoon may be the most bearable part of the whole thing, and with it only airing once, there'd be a lot more vague memories and rumors buzzing around the characters. But I can only really guess at what the 80s mindset was like. They tried to recreate the same effect with Phazma, but a silver stormtrooper who probably only ever did more stormtrooper stuff and doesn't have any bizarre rare media isn't anywhere nearly as evocative to the imagination.
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Basically, he is. Flightsuits ave weird pockets because you're always sitting down in them.
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You just got Bossk'd Boss, it's RIGHT there in his name
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Defiance Industries posted:I genuinely don't understand the fascination with Boba Fett. He stands around, makes a single delivery and then dies like a bitch. This hits it right on the head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn_J425eo3Q Basically, he looks cool, and he should be evil space Batman/Judge Dredd/Javert based on all the subsidiary media. There's a version of Fett in their heads that doesn't really sync up to what happens in the movies. And since Star Wars has a running theme of "Evil looks cool but loses and is dumb" (Ref. Anakin, Kylo, Stormtroopers) it shouldn't be too much of a surprise that Fett vastly underperforms and is all hype. Personally, I want a Boba Fett movie wherein Fett is revealed as an incompetent buffoon who lucks his way into each bounty. He was just leaving a party that Dengar and 4-LOM were at and ended up on the Star Destroyer. He didn't intend to park in the garbage disposal area, it was just the only place they could fit his ship, and he lucked into the Falcon being there. His voice is actually pretty high pitched, and only sounds scary because of the faulty voice changer in his helmet: "He's no used to me, covered in lead!" he tries to tell Vader, which leads to an awkward sequence of Fett trying to convince Jabba that, no, no, really, it's better this way, because, uh *collar tug* you can hang him on the wall! Maybe a "Weekend at Boba's" style comedy, where Fett is trying to collect a bounty, but finds the dead guy's ATM card and receipt first, and tries to get at the guy's bank account before turning him in, but it turns out that the quarry had an exact twin brother (another bounty hunter, who decided to hunt his own brother) who is trying the same bank account scheme, so Fett and he are in the bank line at the same time, and do a double take as they turn to face one another real slowly, then guns start blazing and Boba is somehow hit in the rocket pack by a blind guy, sending both Boba and the corpse of the quarry (who is tied to Boba's waist with rope and "space wire" to help articulate his one arm) flying out the front doors, and the other bounty hunter gets arrested by the cops for trying to rob the bank. The storylines are basically endless. I think this franchise would have a lot of sequel possibilities, and could probably be made using many of the existing costumes and sets already on hand from the Mandalorian, so it wouldn't need a huge budget.
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karmicknight posted:Gand Findsmen should have gotten the amount of deep loyalty that Mandolorians recieved Bring back Ooryl!
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Cornwind Evil posted:It really does show that the whole sequel trilogy has Legends DNA all through it. TBF it's totally on-brand for the Empire to be building wunderwaffen but very off-brand for any of it to ever work
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Polaron posted:Bring back Ooryl! I continue to maintain the ending to this series is going to be Rogue/Wraith Squadron coming to the rescue of Din and the Child. There's no way they could possibly escalate how awesome this show is any farther.
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Polaron posted:Bring back Ooryl! It's amazing how he managed to come off as pretty likeable and interesting despite being paired with Stackpole's self-insert. I think he might genuinely be the best character Hackpole ever made.
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Defiance Industries posted:It's amazing how he managed to come off as pretty likeable and interesting despite being paired with Stackpole's self-insert. I think he might genuinely be the best character Hackpole ever made. Being paired with Corran meant he got among the most development of any character in those books, since Stackpole couldn’t ignore him like he tended to do with half the squadron. I forget which of the various Star Wars threads I mentioned this in a while ago (The Squadrons one maybe?) but Stackpole’s X-wing books always have 3-4 Rogues who solely exist to be listed in the roster at the start, mentioned once or twice, and then die with minimal impact if any on the story. They might as well not even get names, just “Rogue 8” or whatever. Probably the best (Worst?) example of that is Gavin’s wingman, Riv Shiel, who across 4 books has like 3 total lines of dialogue and anything about his background is discussed in passing to talk other characters (Usually Corran). For someone around that long into the series, he basically isn’t developed at all. The obvious contrast to this is the Wraith books, where all of them get at least a little fleshing out, actual lines of dialogue, and some bits of characterization. It makes them all far more memorable, even the ones who only last a portion of one book. It’s a shame Aaron Allston never got to do more with them.
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fartknocker posted:Being paired with Corran meant he got among the most development of any character in those books, since Stackpole couldn’t ignore him like he tended to do with half the squadron. That's pretty normal for him. Also, every other character in the squadron seems to only exist in relation to Corran, because Stackpole can't fathom a world where you aren't totally infatuated with him. Like the guy who exists only to be his rival and then fucks off when Corran is established as being the best in the squadron, or the girl who only exists to be clearly evil and horny for him.
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