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Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Blind Rasputin posted:

You know what this game is? It’s the second iteration of Omicron: Nomad Soul. Hell, it even has a major star in it playing as your cerebral sidekick.

Honestly I’m not even joking. Omicron was the first game that ever tried to shoot for a “real city” and was mind blowing to play while hilariously missing the AI mark and ultimately being empty. The other resemblances are uncanny. This is 2020 Omicron all over again.

I unironically think they originally had Bowie planned for the role...








But I can't piss in a single toilet, so this is no Omikron: The Nomad Soul. :colbert:

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Blind Rasputin posted:

You know what this game is? It’s the second iteration of Omicron: Nomad Soul. Hell, it even has a major star in it playing as your cerebral sidekick.

Honestly I’m not even joking. Omicron was the first game that ever tried to shoot for a “real city” and was mind blowing to play while hilariously missing the AI mark and ultimately being empty. The other resemblances are uncanny. This is 2020 Omicron all over again.
This game is NOT Omicron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077PaFpGzls

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass
How do I non-lethally takedown one of the Cyberpsychos for the side gig?

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
Welp, I made it through character creation, and then it CTD. I now can't make it through the CD Projekt Red screen before CTD. I guess I'll reboot and hope for the best?

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
the game got dark really quick

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

KingKapalone posted:

How do I non-lethally takedown one of the Cyberpsychos for the side gig?

Haven't done it, but non-lethal mod on a weapon?

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

I unironically think they originally had Bowie planned for the role...


But I can't piss in a single toilet, so this is no Omikron: The Nomad Soul. :colbert:

Duke Nukem is the pioneer of toilet tech in games. David Bowie is a rocker from the future for sure.

I'm digging this game by the way, good stuff. Fun city, cool vibe, good character and stuff.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

KingKapalone posted:

How do I non-lethally takedown one of the Cyberpsychos for the side gig?

Land the final blow with:

blunt melee weapons of any sort (no matter how absurd it seems)
guns with the (cheap) non-lethal mod (a good mod in general as it’s also +damage so zero downside to using)
a bad cyber ware eye mod that makes everything you do nonlethal but also removes the possibility to crit (don’t use this)

I think maybe one of the electric tech attack things is also non-lethal?

LGD fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Dec 13, 2020

nessin
Feb 7, 2010

KingKapalone posted:

How do I non-lethally takedown one of the Cyberpsychos for the side gig?

You just kill them like any other NPC. They fall down and are incapacitated instead of actually being dead.

Edit:
At least that's how it worked in my game. I might have had a bug or it may be a general bug that will eventually be fixed, but I didn't have to do anything to get them to count as still alive after killing them like any other NPC.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

LGD posted:

Land the final blow with:

blunt melee weapons of any sort (no matter how absurd it seems)
guns with the (cheap) non-lethal mod (a good mod in general as it’s also +damage so zero downside to using)
a bad cyber ware eye mod that makes everything you do nonlethal but also removes Frits (don’t use this)

I think maybe one of electric the tech attack things is also non-lethal?

The Short-Circuit quickhack is the non-lethal one. And pretty potent.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Zeta Acosta posted:

the game got dark really quick
The soulkiller?

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I don't know why, but the game changed my hair color. Since there doesn't appear to be an option to change your appearance once you start the game, and I don't know how far back the change happened because I have been wearing a helmet, I'm a little annoyed.

Lexorin
Jul 5, 2000

KingKapalone posted:

How do I non-lethally takedown one of the Cyberpsychos for the side gig?

Punch the everloving poo poo out of them.

Real answer: I'd whittle them down with my normal guns till they had a sliver of health, then tap them with a baseball bat.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

sephiRoth IRA posted:

Welp, I made it through character creation, and then it CTD. I now can't make it through the CD Projekt Red screen before CTD. I guess I'll reboot and hope for the best?

CTD Projekt Red ahuehue

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari

Grouchio posted:

The soulkiller?

evelyn´s faith

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
lower Cyberpsycho health then punch them to finish the non lethal job

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

deep dish peat moss posted:

So far it doesn't seem like the way I handle missions has any impact outside of the way that specific mission's story plays out. For example I've done multiple quests where I was supposed to go talk to someone by walking in and accidentally pissing someone off and slaughtering the entire place. The closing dialog for the mission will say something like "wow you're bloodthirsty huh? haha" but then no one else anywhere in the game ever refers to me that way. I've walked into some gang bases and killed every last one of them and then gang members around the city still just ignore me unless I invade their personal bubble. I'm taking the aggressive kill everyone, steal everything reward whenever possible because it seems to give the most payout - is there anything coming later on in the game where this will actually reflect in the way people treat me or talk about me or anything?

Several times now I have gotten a 'bonus' from a drop point by doing a mission a certain way. Like staying stealthed and not killing people, or talking someone down instead of fighting them.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Few pages ago, but anything in the Body perks that doesn't explicitly say blunt weapons applies to all melee weapons (including blades). Anything that says blunt weapons seems to apply to hand to hand just fine (and presumably gorilla arms). Note the main +melee damage from increasing Body stat also applies to blades. Not sure if it's actually better to go all in on Reflexes if you are in a katana build. Might be worth losing some of the top perks to get in damage bonuses and extra hp/stamina from Body.

I've gone heavy in Body and generic melee perks and blades still hit like a truck. It actually synergizes with hacking better than a heavy Reflexes build because you get so much tankier from Body that helps running into range. Haven't decided if I'm gonna commit to a type of weapon or just keep doing generic melee perks and just use whatever is best.

Some of this testing I did with cheatengine where you can respec attributes. If you don't want to just straight up cheat you can drop an attribute by X and then add X to your available ability points. Using cheatengine with a buggy game might seem risky but I used them just to make these adjustments and then turned CE off. I had no crashes for a few more hours of play with an edited save and didn't see any more glitches.

I haven't tested this extensively but it feels like you can knock people out with blunt weapons (or hand to hand) and generate less noise than slicing them up with the katana. I was blinding people and then running up and punching them and wasn't alerting nearby guards the way silenced guns or katana seems to.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

sauer kraut posted:

Yeah the xboxen do the total deadlocking for several seconds thing randomly, you can see it in the digital foundry video from earlier today.
Quality mode on the X-2020 looking good tho 30 fps lol

tbh i'd be fine with 30fps at long as its stable

just got a 16 gig update that's still downloading, would be nice if they fixed the crashing. I can deal with all the other jank as long as i don't have to randomly replay stuff.

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time
Is it viable to do a melee build without reflexes? I started doing a body-int-tech build thinking I could hack fools from afar and then chop them up if they got close, but I wasn't looking at the actual perk trees so I didn't realize the sword skills were under reflexes. Are there enough non-sword melee weapons to make that work, or could I get by with swords by having a just a few points in reflexes? I'm only level 4, so I wouldn't mind ditching body and focusing on reflexes from now if that would be stronger.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
someone please tell me i can kill (spoilers for the quest "Automatic Love")that shithead pimp. upgraded his security because it was the poor sex workers getting hit, but what the gently caress? How dare you let me walk out of that room without turning him into fillet.


e: lol well a reload later and that was a much more satisfying dialogue tree


also wow that was a really heavy conversation about death, seriously struck a emotional cord.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Dec 13, 2020

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Bussamove posted:

The Short-Circuit quickhack is the non-lethal one. And pretty potent.

I gotta juice it up somehow then. I was thinking about going hacker brain-zaps but it takes like 6 of them to take out a random Tyger Claw chump and that’s a lot of waiting for RAM to regenerate.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Tenzarin posted:

If you don't mind isometric graphics and you want a more linear cyberpunk story, just play shadowrun hongkong and then if you like that play shadowrun dragonfall, and then if your really hungry play the first of the series which is shadowrun returns which comes with shadowrun dragonfall I think.

or get real serious and play the SNES shadowrun game

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Randallteal posted:

Is it viable to do a melee build without reflexes? I started doing a body-int-tech build thinking I could hack fools from afar and then chop them up if they got close, but I wasn't looking at the actual perk trees so I didn't realize the sword skills were under reflexes. Are there enough non-sword melee weapons to make that work, or could I get by with swords by having a just a few points in reflexes? I'm only level 4, so I wouldn't mind ditching body and focusing on reflexes from now if that would be stronger.

Somewhere out there is a tactical dildo with your name on it.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Randallteal posted:

Is it viable to do a melee build without reflexes? I started doing a body-int-tech build thinking I could hack fools from afar and then chop them up if they got close, but I wasn't looking at the actual perk trees so I didn't realize the sword skills were under reflexes. Are there enough non-sword melee weapons to make that work, or could I get by with swords by having a just a few points in reflexes? I'm only level 4, so I wouldn't mind ditching body and focusing on reflexes from now if that would be stronger.

See my post above I think Body-Int is actually better than Int-Reflexes. Reflexes-Cool seems a better synergy since blade perks work well with cold blood.

There are also a ton of blunt weapons but for whatever reason I got few at the start. Eventually you end up with plenty

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I'm a good way in now and the game is definitely losing its lustre for me. There are some great moments in here but I'm increasingly unable to overlook the flaws and shortcomings, and that outside of the big setpiece missions and some good conversational bits, I'm doing the same open world stuff I've done a hundred times before. Which, to be fair, doesn't mean I hate it, and in CDPR's defense I explicitly asked for an open world cyberpunk game more than once, but I'm starting to feel it falls a little short in too many areas.

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time

FuzzySlippers posted:

See my post above I think Body-Int is actually better than Int-Reflexes. Reflexes-Cool seems a better synergy since blade perks work well with cold blood.

There are also a ton of blunt weapons but for whatever reason I got few at the start. Eventually you end up with plenty

Gracias!

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Subjunctive posted:

I gotta juice it up somehow then. I was thinking about going hacker brain-zaps but it takes like 6 of them to take out a random Tyger Claw chump and that’s a lot of waiting for RAM to regenerate.

There are several pieces of cyberware that make hacking so much better-- a good cyberdeck, for one. There's also cortex implants that give RAM back on kill, speed up the regen, and other good stuff.

Also don't forget to use Breach Protocol on them if they're resistant to hacks, even the default lowering the cost by 1 RAM is huge.

E: Memory Boost is the cyberware that gives RAM back on kill. There's also Ex-Disk, which just increases your total RAM.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
I've been playing reflexes + cool with a little bit in body going pure katana. Blade, Stealth, and Cold Blood go very well together. Basically a super high crit build where you regen HP on every kill which stacks a bunch of passives onto you. The only issue are boss fights on hard / very hard.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I find it crazy frustrating that the game's plot centers around a Marxist terrorist and yet the MSQ and side quests rarely touch on socio-economic dilemmas.

Bussamove posted:

Not climate change related but they also killed all the birds within miles of the city because they were spreading terrible diseases.

I guess the game may have some Maoism in it.

punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Dec 13, 2020

Hot Stunt
Oct 2, 2009



Sir Tonk posted:

tbh i'd be fine with 30fps at long as its stable

just got a 16 gig update that's still downloading, would be nice if they fixed the crashing. I can deal with all the other jank as long as i don't have to randomly replay stuff.

I don't know if it's because I've mostly been playing 60fps games since I got my Series X, but the 30fps feels pretty nasty.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


"It's a shame I can't enter all these buildings" I think, as I dip into a random back-alley and find Skippy DUM DUM DE DUM DUM DUM DE DUM DUM

game so good.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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As a low-end user the lifehack I suggest when dealing with sub-60 framerate issues is to turn off your framerate counter

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

How can you not fall in love with Cyberpunk after even a passing glance at the art of this game?

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

man the racing loving sucks in this. it wouldn't be that bad if the cars literally didn't teleport infront of you. i'm in the lead for all the race and then suddenly im now 3/6 even though no cars passed me, but on the mini map i can see 2 cars now way infront.

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

Are "Ultimate Quickhacks" just legendary tier quickhacks?

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Anyone tested if blade perks apply to mantis blades?

Though that would seem terrible synergy since your katana probably hits harder so why not just run around with your katana instead. Not sure how quick you can leap attack with the blades and then switch back to sword. Otherwise it seems like mantis blades are for giving pistol/rifle builds a melee option without needing a weapon slot.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


punk rebel ecks posted:

I find it crazy frustrating that the game's plot centers around a Marxist terrorist and yet the MSQ and side quests rarely touch on socio-economic dilemmas.


Johnny is a lot of things but I think it's a huuuge misread to call him a Marxist terrorist. He's seems more just an extreme anti-authority guy. He hates governments, he hates the corporations, he just wants to burn the whole system down but I sure as hell wouldn't call him a Marxist. He doesn't exactly have a plan to replace it with anything.

Also like, looking into the background lore a bit more, Johnny's assault on Arisaka was actually him leading a Militech corporate assault team to try and end their war with Arisaka, which he held a grudge against more for them kidnapping his girlfriend more than anything.

And the game talks about economic disparity between the rich corpo folks and the poor in might city barely scraping by like...all the time?

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Dec 13, 2020

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
Wish the game would tell you before going all the way to a far point in the city that you don't have enough money to start the mission

Also, I just did one of those fights you can do and that poo poo is buggy as hell. I wasn't half way on the other side and still took damage from punches

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Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

FuzzySlippers posted:

Anyone tested if blade perks apply to mantis blades?

Though that would seem terrible synergy since your katana probably hits harder so why not just run around with your katana instead. Not sure how quick you can leap attack with the blades and then switch back to sword. Otherwise it seems like mantis blades are for giving pistol/rifle builds a melee option without needing a weapon slot.

I don't own any arms yet, but if the internet is right on top of "More numbers" I've seen window shopping, they also get more kinds of mod slots once you get into the mantis arms that cost as much as a fancy cart?

Like, already I found two blade mods for mantis blades as loot even though I don't have the arms. One physical (I guess they default to burn?)), and one that turns them into electric damage.

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